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Why is Israel not considered a third world dictatorship?

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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 10:07 AM
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did you even read my posts? I gave you a definition of dictatorship: any country the globalists control. I also said that America is a dictatorship despite the dictionary calling it a democracy. So I guess I'll just hold off on new information until you get that through.

So, again

Gaddaffi bomb people, US must invade
Israel bomb people, US must give aid

Can you explain that one for me?



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by filosophia

Gaddaffi bomb people, US must invade
Israel bomb people, US must give aid


Gaddaffi bombs his own people and, last I checked, it was a coalition of nations that was fighting under the premise of protecting the citizens from their leader.

Israel bombs a neighboring country, in retaliation for attacks against them..

When israel starts attacking their own people, you can compare the two.

found any examples of how israel is a third world dictatorship?

you don't have any because they aren't one



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by mayabong
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Yes them arabs teach them kids from a young age to kill. They should have more class like the Israeli's.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5fd1d93f5e2b.jpg[/atsimg]


What a fail. First off, why would Israeli children be writing in English on bombs being sent into Lebanon, unless possibly asked to by the reporter taking the photos? Second off, what is written in Hebrew actually says, "Nasrallah, with love from Israeli children". Nasrallah is the Secretary General of Hezbollah in Lebanon who has killed many civilians as well.

You want a video on brainwash? Here: Little Muslim Girl Trained to Hate Jews. Now, tell me how pointless this is, this going back and forth. Both sides have done wrong things, but this photo is not ridiculous.

That being said, the OP needs to do some research on history and logic, and maybe look up some words in the dictionary.
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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 10:36 AM
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The Ironic possible outcome of democracy in Israel is that given the birth rates of Jewish Israelis, and Palestinian/Arab Israelis one day in the not too distant future the Palestinian/Arab Israelis will have enough numbers to have real impact in elections in Israel.

If democracy stays as is in Israel, then one day the Jewish Israelis may find themselves a minority in partisan elections and possibly lose.

Of course, they will never let that happen, will they?

In comes a dictatorship, totalitarian regime and strictly controlled elections, possibly even discriminatory voting regulations... Anything and everything will be done to prevent a Palestinian/Arab majority, perhaps even nullifications of elections? Assassination of popular candidates?

Ultimately democracy could be Israel's worst enemy.




posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 11:33 AM
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"Gaddaffi bombs Libyan civilians, Nobel prize wielding Obama must invade for humanitarian reasons."

I agree we shouldn't be in Libya.

"Israel bombs Palestinians, media claims all Palestinians, women and children, are terrorists and deserve it."

First, that's just simply non-sense. Second, you fail to include in your statement the fact that rockets are launched into Israel from Palestine regularly into civilian populations.

"Gaddafffi is a freedom hating dictator and oppresses his people, rebels must be given ammunition and weapons to overpower him."

For some reason I agree with this statement.

"Israel has 20 foot high fences to keep people locked in a concentration camp called Gaza, they receive US aid."

What? Concentration camp? Please this statement is simply founded in ignorance.

"A plane is shot down, during a UN sponsored no fly zone, Gaddaffi is blamed, U.S. must invade"

First, we're not sure how the plane came down. Second we wouldn't even be there if Gaddaffi weren't a blood thirsty lunatic. But again I wish we weren't even there.

"Israel prohibits basic humanitarian aid to Gaza, Israel is the good guy."

Wow, ok this is just a statement that isn't based in any factual evidence and makes me question if you are simply anti-Semitic.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by dereks
The OP has no clue at all -

Why do they think Israel is a dictatorship? It is a democracy.

Why does the OP think Israel is a 3rd world country? again they have no clue at all.

of course if the arab terrorists stopped attacking Israel.... why doesnt the OP accuse them?
www.news.com.au...



Israel is ruled by a permanent President as Peres has seen literately 10 Prime Minister's come and go since he assumed command. When the President hold some type of high office for going on 34 yrs that is a dictatorship. He's been PM on at least 3 different occasions.
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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Israel is ruled by a permanent President as Peres has seen literately 10 Prime Minister's come and go since he assumed command. When the President hold some type of high office for going on 34 yrs that is a dictatorship. He's been PM on at least 3 different occasions.


he was elected or appointed to each of his positions and he has been president since 2007. that's hardly a dictatorship but we shouldn't let the truth get in the way now, should we.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by Crakeur

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Israel is ruled by a permanent President as Peres has seen literately 10 Prime Minister's come and go since he assumed command. When the President hold some type of high office for going on 34 yrs that is a dictatorship. He's been PM on at least 3 different occasions.


he was elected or appointed to each of his positions and he has been president since 2007. that's hardly a dictatorship but we shouldn't let the truth get in the way now, should we.



When the same cast of charecters runs the show time and time again that is a dictatorship and not democracy.

How about someone new at Pres and PM for the next 6 election cycles, that's right, not going to happen.

Dictators are appointed.

When a multi billion dollar defense budget constantly keeps that of a couple thousand dollar defense budget that is tryanny and not democracy.

Israel is no better then Nazi Germany in that regard, what makes it ok for Israel to do to Palestine what Nazis did to them??????????????
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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 12:18 PM
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once again, this thread is about israel and whether or not it should be considered a thrid world dictatorship, however, one of the main differences between nazi germany and israel today is that the israelis aren't rounding up all those who are different from them, and slaughtering them.

back to the topic

the current president is in office for 7 years. since he was elected, yes, elected, in 2007, that means he is done serving in 2014. they will then hold an election for a new president.

that's how a democracy works, no?

not a dictatorship



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Crakeur
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once again, this thread is about israel and whether or not it should be considered a thrid world dictatorship, however, one of the main differences between nazi germany and israel today is that the israelis aren't rounding up all those who are different from them, and slaughtering them.

back to the topic

the current president is in office for 7 years. since he was elected, yes, elected, in 2007, that means he is done serving in 2014. they will then hold an election for a new president.

that's how a democracy works, no?

not a dictatorship


When he leaves expect either Netanyahu or Barak to take over keeping the revolving door open.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 12:23 PM
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As has been stated by the management here, the way these subjects will be dealt with is to ban those who raise the issue (at least one side of the issue). For freedom! Lol.


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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by filosophia
Gaddaffi bombs Libyan civilians, nobel prize wielding Obama must invade for humanitarian reasons.

Israel bombs Palestinians, media claims all Palestinians, women and children, are terrorists and deserve it.

Gaddafffi is a freedom hating dictator and oppresses his people, rebels must be given ammunition and weapons to overpower him.

Israel has 20 foot high fences to keep people locked in a concentration camp called Gaza, they receive US aid.

A plane is shot down, during a UN sponsored no fly zone, Gaddaffi is blamed, U.S. must invade

Israel prohibits basic humanitarian aid to Gaza, Israel is the good guy.

Can we say hypocritical?


a lie...media claims all palestinians are terrorists and deserve to be bombed.
a lie...20-foot high fences around a concentration camp called Gaza.
a lie...Israel prohibits humanitarian aid to Gaza



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by jimmyx

Originally posted by filosophia
Gaddaffi bombs Libyan civilians, nobel prize wielding Obama must invade for humanitarian reasons.

Israel bombs Palestinians, media claims all Palestinians, women and children, are terrorists and deserve it.

Gaddafffi is a freedom hating dictator and oppresses his people, rebels must be given ammunition and weapons to overpower him.

Israel has 20 foot high fences to keep people locked in a concentration camp called Gaza, they receive US aid.

A plane is shot down, during a UN sponsored no fly zone, Gaddaffi is blamed, U.S. must invade

Israel prohibits basic humanitarian aid to Gaza, Israel is the good guy.

Can we say hypocritical?


a lie...media claims all palestinians are terrorists and deserve to be bombed.
a lie...20-foot high fences around a concentration camp called Gaza. - Then what do you call this? - en.wikipedia.org... - Can you say a permanent concentration camp?
a lie...Israel prohibits humanitarian aid to Gaza - Every aide ship gets seized



Answered in quote!
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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 12:28 PM
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Israel 'takes care' of the Royal Families in America. $$$$$

Who said money can't buy you love?



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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you keep saying that Israel is a democracy and not a dictatorship, but democracy is dictatorship, the dictatorship of the majority against the minority. How do Arabs fare in the Israeli democracy? Are they treated with equal respect under the law?

And you keep assuming that I called Israel a third world country, when my question specifically asks why it isn't considered one, thereby implying that I acknowledge that public opinion does not view it as such, but we have two countries in the middle east, both bombing unarmed civilians (whether it's their people or neighboring people murder is murder), yet one of the countries (Libya) is a third world dictatorship, the other (Israel) is not. So why the hypocrisy? I'm guessing it has something to do with Libya being Arab and Israel being Jewish.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by Rockstrongo37
Second, you fail to include in your statement the fact that rockets are launched into Israel from Palestine regularly into civilian populations.




Actually I've stated multiple times if not on this thread then elsewhere that the rockets fired into Israel land in open fields and there are zero casualties.

This thread www.abovetopsecret.com... has links to all the most recent rocket attacks into Israel, 16 in total and guess what? No casualties, and not even any damage to the Israel side on all but one of the news articles. So, let's ponder this, rockets are fired into Israel (not "daily" as people like to say, but they do happen), and they always, always land in open fields, no one is hurt, which justifies Israel bombing Gaza which do kill many, many people. So, is it really hard to see the false flag on this one?

Of course this will be ignored and the focus will return to whether or not this thread is a Israel bashing thread. Once again I will say to all those who wish to hear: the rockets land in open fields and no one is hurt.
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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by filosophia
democracy is dictatorship, the dictatorship of the majority against the minority


You just can't win with some people can you?



...I'm guessing it has something to do with Libya being Arab and Israel being Jewish.


You've already played the religion card, remember? But, despite all this, neither religion nor killing folks makes a country "third-world". The term came about during the Cold War to refer to neutral countries; Libya was neutral (Third World) while Israel backed the United States (First World) and "capitalism". Those who backed the U.S.S.R. and "communism" were referred to as Second World.

Now, I'd like to think that a dictatorship was more obvious, but you've proven that not to be so. Check out this for a little info on the Israeli government, especially note how the Israeli President is elected by their Congress, the Knesset, for a seven-year term.

Now, please, just quit it.
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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 02:34 PM
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twist your words around all you want. your title, and your opening post, compare israel to libya and you are saying they both do the same things so why is libya deemed a third world dictatorship and not israel?

that is calling israel a thrid world dictatorship.

and, again, I'm still waiting on your examples.

others have provided some valid insight into the potential for it to happen but, so far, nobody has given one example of how israel, today, is a third world dictatorship.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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Well said mate, well said.

I doubt the Israeli psychos would understand what the word hypocritical means.
Psychos and sociopaths rarely see the wrong in what they do, and the Israelis are certainly no exception.

No fly zone in Israel, after we take out the rest of their capacity to murder innocent people.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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Second we wouldn't even be there if Gaddaffi weren't a blood thirsty lunatic


You sure about that?

Vast water aquifers...fair amount of oil...60 Billion in cash...a foothold and puppet government installed in North Africa..etc.

If he is such a blood thirsty lunatic, it makes me for one wonder exactly why both the US government and my own, the British recently couldn't sell him armaments fast enough, almost like they were going out of fashion, and to cap it all, were filmed physically hugging and *kissing* him!

Hmmm...yeah, we're only there because he's a murdering nutter eh?



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