Why is Israel not considered a third world dictatorship?

reply to post by littlezeta


So you're Jewish you say? Does that mean you believe that God is the almighty force of the world and that all actions are administered by him? Including your free will? Your free will is limited by God's plan of the universe, meaning God included your free will within his plan, meaning his entire plan is perfect, just like himself, which means all things, including the Holocaust, was God's plan, and thus good, do you think the Holocaust was a good thing? A real Jew would say yes, because it is God's law.

And of course what would that mean? It would mean that the Holocaust, as an act of evil, was made by God in order for what? What could be the possible good motive? The only good motive is the realistic one, that the race of Jews were not eliminated through genocide but created their own country as a result of it. In fact, since the Jews have been persecuted more times than any other race throughout history, the persecution is actually a good thing for the Jews! Just as the Holocaust has made Israel what it is today, because otherwise the Jews would not have a motive to migrate from Europe to Israel, then the attacks from Hamas continues to make Israel what it is today. It is God's will. There is no fault but to avoid God's laws. God has instructed his chosen race to follow him, that his law is supreme, now personally I don't buy into that, but if you were a real Jew, you would have to.

Originally posted by jdub297
The media have never portrayed Palestinian civilians as terrorists, especially women and children.

Prove this. You can not.

Originally posted by littlezeta
surrounded at all angles by countless arab countries that want it wiped off the map -- and train their kids at the age of 6 to fire a gun and to hate jews!

You see, it's one of Israel's talking points to say that Palestinians are trained at the age of 6 to fire a gun and to hate jews.

So I just proved it twice. Will you ignore the facts and say I didn't?

Originally posted by filosophia
reply to post by littlezeta

 

So you're Jewish you say? Does that mean you believe that God is the almighty force of the world and that all actions are administered by him? Including your free will? Your free will is limited by God's plan of the universe, meaning God included your free will within his plan, meaning his entire plan is perfect, just like himself, which means all things, including the Holocaust, was God's plan, and thus good, do you think the Holocaust was a good thing? A real Jew would say yes, because it is God's law.

And of course what would that mean? It would mean that the Holocaust, as an act of evil, was made by God in order for what? What could be the possible good motive? The only good motive is the realistic one, that the race of Jews were not eliminated through genocide but created their own country as a result of it. In fact, since the Jews have been persecuted more times than any other race throughout history, the persecution is actually a good thing for the Jews! Just as the Holocaust has made Israel what it is today, because otherwise the Jews would not have a motive to migrate from Europe to Israel, then the attacks from Hamas continues to make Israel what it is today. It is God's will. There is no fault but to avoid God's laws. God has instructed his chosen race to follow him, that his law is supreme, now personally I don't buy into that, but if you were a real Jew, you would have to.

The question of how the holocaust would fit into god's will can be found in in book of Leviticus in the bible.
In short it says: if the chosen people don't do exactly as god commands, god will screw them over big time.

Oh.. and stop complaining about Israel being where it is. Darwin explained it best "survival of the fittest".
You win the wars, you get to do what you want. Plus, its about time the Jewish people are capable of kicking some ass. Historically they have always been the ones that were being oppressed and beat up.

Don't forget that a culture that supports suicide bombers straight out wins the Darwin award. No wonder the Palestinians get their asses handed to them.
The Israelis are smart, and the Palestinians are showing themselves to be quite stupid. If rockets and suicide bombs didn't work 20 years ago, why the hell would they work now?

Ignorance is the cause of all suffering.

Originally posted by fedeykin


The question of how the holocaust would fit into god's will can be found in in book of Leviticus in the bible.
In short it says: if the chosen people don't do exactly as god commands, god will screw them over big time.

And what a kind and loving God that is. Anyone who would willingly let themselves be controlled by such a psycho path is disturbed indeed.

Oh.. and stop complaining about Israel being where it is. Darwin explained it best "survival of the fittest".
You win the wars, you get to do what you want.

Except Israel doesn't get to do what it wants, if it did Gaza would be eliminated by now, and they wouldn't have to stall through world opinion. A powerful man does not have to go through concerted efforts to boost public opinion of themselves around the world, which is exactly what AIPAC does. Israel is hanging on annihilation not just physically but politically with the entire world because they are being scorned for their complete arrogance and contempt for the Palestinian people, do you really call that survival? The fittest survival? You act as if I am jealous of Israel but I would not for any amount of money ever choose to live in Israel. I would rather take a trip to Palestine to learn more of their sufferings, but certainly would not want to live there.

Plus, its about time the Jewish people are capable of kicking some ass.

You act as if this is some video game. Grow up, people are dying because of the need to "kick ass"

Historically they have always been the ones that were being oppressed and beat up.

And the bullied becomes the bully, and the cycle goes on. It is pathological violence.

Don't forget that a culture that supports suicide bombers straight out wins the Darwin award.

There's no Darwin award.

No wonder the Palestinians get their asses handed to them.

Just like how the Jews got their ***** handed to them in WW 2? That's about how inhumane, thoughtless, cruel, and incompassionate your statement was.

The Israelis are smart, and the Palestinians are showing themselves to be quite stupid. If rockets and suicide bombs didn't work 20 years ago, why the hell would they work now?

Exactly why it is most likely a false flag attack

Ignorance is the cause of all suffering.

No, desire is the cause of all suffering. To live is to suffer, to suffer is caused by desire.

Ignorance is uncaused, unconditional, there is no beginning to ignorance. What brings about suffering is desire which mistakes the truth for what is false, and what is false for the truth.

reply to post by Lionhearte


have you not heard of uss liberty?

uss liberty.. second line

reply to post by filosophia


Not one word of your post suggests Israel is a "third world dictatorship" One only has to travel to Tel Aviv to see their "Eoropean" lifestyle. Israel has a robust economy and deep historical cultural roots. They have less crime then countries twice their size. Israel is hardly a third world country.

Yes, they built a wall to prevent Arabs free access to Israel proper and it seems to extend their borders through the illegal appropiation of Palestinian land but this does not make them "third world"

Yes they have sealed off 1.5 million people in Gaza in a virtual prisn but this does not make them "third world"

Yes, they continue to expand settlements contrary to their agreements under the "Road Map" and in violation of International Law and conventions. But this does not make them third world.

Like third world countries Israel ignores UN Resolutions (162 so far) but this does not make them third world.

Israel demolishes Palestinian homes where the occupants have lived for generations but this does not make them third world.

Israel targets civilians during their hi-tech wars against a virtually defensless Gaza and is accussed of war crimes by a highly respected jurist (Goldstone) but this does not make them third world.

Israel arrests children in the middle of the night and secrets them away for interrogation but this does not make them third world.

And on and on and on.......... Pariah apartied state perhaps but certainly NOT third world.

Israel is a dictatorial nation with a very unhealthy taste for human blood and have been salivating forever now wanted to justify further hostile actions against Palestine and the Middle East.

The US nowadays is no longer Israel's plaything and broadsword. They launch against Palestine they are to be left to handle this mess alone as ain't no one going to help as the US cannot afford to get into a 4th conflict in recent weeks.

Funny how the Land Of The Abrahamic Faiths is more Satanical as of late!

reply to post by rebeldog


I think it's generally agreed that it was an accident.

Originally posted by Lionhearte
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I think it's generally agreed that it was an accident.

LMAO, by who ??
Israel the IDF or mossad ???

Maybe ask a SURVIVING sailor what they think...

Originally posted by filosophia

Originally posted by Lionhearte
I'm really tired of hearing people complain about Israel. Have you not heard of the War of Independence? The Sinai War? The Six Day War? The Yom Kippur War? The Lebanon War?

Have you not heard that Palestine was given to the Jews through the Balfour declaration following world war 1? Have you not heard how the holocaust was a manipulated effort not to gas Jews but to force them to migrate to Palestine? Have you not heard how the Jews claim religious right to the land which Palestinians have lived on for thousands of years? The native Americans fought back to from British invasion, were they terrorists for defending their land?

What about when the Arab government stole $300 billion worth of property and Ancient Jewish communities (over 100,000 square kilometers)?

When did this happen? 2000 years ago?

Palestinians lived there for thousands of years? ?
With such a bold claim, I would expect some strong evidence.
I could have save you the time, but what the heck, enjoy the ride.
Please show us there was a “Palestinian” anything before 1967.

And oh Mr ignorance, Arab countries stole properties from Jews, deported and slaughtered Jews in Arab countries, not 2000 thousands years ago but since the 1940's.
Yemen : 55000, today 200
Algeria : 140000, today 100
Egypt : 80000, today 100
Libya: 30000, today 0

And the list goes on.

reply to post by Lionhearte


It's not as simplistic as you think.

I've tried countless times (with futile results) to point out that Israel's actions from day one have involved expansion. Their goal is to claim as much land until they can claim no more, even if it means displacing people who have lived on that land for years.

reply to post by gravitational


Where did you get your statistics from?

You can't deride someone and then turn around and fail to show proof yourself.

reply to post by gem_man


You may not think that they are a third world country but when they have a leader like Bibi in charge, they really have no right to go after other dictators.

Hypocrisy reigns supreme.

The OP has no clue at all -

Why do they think Israel is a dictatorship? It is a democracy.

Why does the OP think Israel is a 3rd world country? again they have no clue at all.

of course if the arab terrorists stopped attacking Israel.... why doesnt the OP accuse them?
www.news.com.au...

Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by gravitational

 

Where did you get your statistics from?

You can't deride someone and then turn around and fail to show proof yourself.

"Anti-Jewish riots involving the loss of life also took place in Libya in 1945, in Yemen in 1947 and in Egypt, Morocco and Iraq in 1948. At the same time, independent Arab countries began to encourage Jewish emigration to Israel.[16][17][18] Arab pogroms against Jews appeared to spread throughout the Arab world, and there were intensified riots in Yemen and Syria in particular. In Libya, Jews were deprived of citizenship, and in Iraq, their property was seized. Those Jews who were forced to emigrate were not allowed to take their property."


en.wikipedia.org...

www.al-bab.com...

It's all there for you to see and educate. Just google it.

Originally posted by dereks
The OP has no clue at all -

Dereks I think everyone knows you're full of disinfo

Why do they think Israel is a dictatorship? It is a democracy.

If Gaddaffi is a third world dictator because he bombs civilians, then Israel is equally one since they bomb Palestinians. Simple as that, get a clue.

Why does the OP think Israel is a 3rd world country? again they have no clue at all.

Already explained that, try and read next time.

of course if the arab terrorists stopped attacking Israel.... why doesnt the OP accuse them?

Of course you ignore that all the rocket attacks suspiciously land in open fields and no one is killed.

Israel is a third world dictatorship
Rocket attacks are false flags
Palestinians are in concentration camps
Israel has become their oppressors of WW 2.

Originally posted by gravitational

Please show us there was a “Palestinian” anything before 1967.

Talk about Holocaust denial

Israel was created in 1948, after UN Resolution 181 partitioned the territory of the British Mandate for Palestine into two states for Jews and Palestinian Arabs. At the time, there were approximately 1.2 million Arabs and 650,000 Jews in all of Palestine.

www.mideastweb.org...

Jews and Arabs lived in Palestine prior to 1948, after holocaust there was a migration of Jews into Palestine and from then Arabs received less and less rights and more persecution following the creation of Israel. At one point Arabs and Jews lived side by side, but now because of the anti-semitic policies of Israel the Arabs, the real semites, are being rounded up into the concentration camp known as Gaza to be exterminated just like the Jews were during WW 2 and then people claim that anti-zionists are holocaust deniers. What a hoot.

Originally posted by filosophia
If Gaddaffi is a third world dictator because he bombs civilians,

Who claims that is the reason he is a dictator? Source?

Just another hate the jews poster!

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by filosophia
If Gaddaffi is a third world dictator because he bombs civilians,

Who claims that is the reason he is a dictator? Source?

Just another hate the jews poster!

What does "Gaddaffi bombing civilians" have to do with Jew hating? You see you're so nonsensical that it's impossible to talk to you

Bombing civilians is the reason the UN invaded, so that's the issue at hand. Yet Israel bombs civilians but they aren't invaded. Hypocrisy.

And actually what made him a dictator was military aid from the U.S.

While President Obama calls Libyan leader Muammar al-Qaddafi a threat to his own people, just one month before attacking Libya the president asked Congress to increase U.S. aid for Qaddafi's military to $1.7 million.

Read more: www.foxnews.com...

reply to post by littlezeta


Yes them arabs teach them kids from a young age to kill. They should have more class like the Israeli's.

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