Tea Party Candidate Herman Cain Turns His Back on the African-American Community

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1


Maybe I took you the wrong way, it seemed like you were just another democrat bootlicker, and if Cain was a democrat, you would have no problem. The only action as of now I am ready to take, is to defend my town. There are plans in place, if it were to go nuts up here, there are two main roads leading in and out, over bridges. You can imagine what will happen to those bridges, and where the guards will be placed should it come to that. I still do useless crap like write to me "reps", for all the good that does. We are done trying to convince people to take care of themselves and their families, and if TSHTF, they are out of luck. Possibly a few good looking females will be let in, other than that, screw them. They called us nuts and all kinds of names, so why should we help any of them?

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

 

Maybe I took you the wrong way, it seemed like you were just another democrat bootlicker, and if Cain was a democrat, you would have no problem. The only action as of now I am ready to take, is to defend my town. There are plans in place, if it were to go nuts up here, there are two main roads leading in and out, over bridges. You can imagine what will happen to those bridges, and where the guards will be placed should it come to that. I still do useless crap like write to me "reps", for all the good that does. We are done trying to convince people to take care of themselves and their families, and if TSHTF, they are out of luck. Possibly a few good looking females will be let in, other than that, screw them. They called us nuts and all kinds of names, so why should we help any of them?

I forever put nation above party and was one of the first people I know to abandon the entire "Left-v-Right" paradigm and am firmly against it. We help everyone and anyone who asks for it because if you are selective in who you help you would be no better then those you claim to be against.

You do not destroy your bridges because why should your community be made to suffer on account of these morons, get like 50 or so people and put them in 8 hr shifts of 3 people each to man the bridge and monitor it. Do the same to the other roads.

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1


I can see your point, but there is no way we are letting tanks etc get into out town. As for helping anybody that asks for help, I have been up here for 3 years this august. We have been telling people with facts, that for 30 years, the economy up here is a few years behind the american economy. We have been warning people to start growing food etc. People call us idiots and newfies(a derogatory name, that was once pointed at people from newfoundland immigrants, but now spewed at anyone born outside of town), even though pops and my uncles were born here. If it ever goes sour, and people are begging me for food, I can't say I won't change my mind. More than likely things will never get bad as we expect, we will die of old age, and laugh at our preperations.

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

 

I can see your point, but there is no way we are letting tanks etc get into out town. As for helping anybody that asks for help, I have been up here for 3 years this august. We have been telling people with facts, that for 30 years, the economy up here is a few years behind the american economy. We have been warning people to start growing food etc. People call us idiots and newfies(a derogatory name, that was once pointed at people from newfoundland immigrants, but now spewed at anyone born outside of town), even though pops and my uncles were born here. If it ever goes sour, and people are begging me for food, I can't say I won't change my mind. More than likely things will never get bad as we expect, we will die of old age, and laugh at our preperations.

I know of alot of farmland exists in Upstate by Albany and use the harvesters and farm equipment to look for abandoned and destroyed cars and use them to bring the cars about 1/4 mile from the bridge to create a barrier of sorts. The surrounding Adirondacks can be beneficial as well.

As long as this "New Era of Enlightenment" is firm and continues to expand and grow as it has been doing then military action may not be needed.

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Out of roughly say, 10,000 GOP politicians currently in office less then 20 are non white further proving my point while the Dems have 25 minority persons per state and per jurisdiction.

edit on 24-3-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)

Well now you are changing the terms of your argument and stance....

Originally it was ""No African Americans, Hispanics, Arabs, Indian GOP anywhere....." Now you are basing it off of per capita and drawing conclusions.

Why are you so concerned with race or color of a person within a political party? Is it so you can justify your stances that the Republicans are racists because they don't have black, green, yellow, pink and brown people in numbers?

Move the goal posts all you want; your argument has failed again. It has evolved from your deep hatred from page one for anyone that proclaims the "Tea Party" as their affiliation of choice to now complaining and trying to claim that Republicans don't care about persons of minority backgrounds because they barely have any in public office. What will your new argument be?

Continue your broad strokes and Ill continue to pick it apart.

Originally posted by ownbestenemy

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Out of roughly say, 10,000 GOP politicians currently in office less then 20 are non white further proving my point while the Dems have 25 minority persons per state and per jurisdiction.

edit on 24-3-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)

Well now you are changing the terms of your argument and stance....

Originally it was ""No African Americans, Hispanics, Arabs, Indian GOP anywhere....." Now you are basing it off of per capita and drawing conclusions.

Why are you so concerned with race or color of a person within a political party? Is it so you can justify your stances that the Republicans are racists because they don't have black, green, yellow, pink and brown people in numbers?

Move the goal posts all you want; your argument has failed again. It has evolved from your deep hatred from page one for anyone that proclaims the "Tea Party" as their affiliation of choice to now complaining and trying to claim that Republicans don't care about persons of minority backgrounds because they barely have any in public office. What will your new argument be?

Continue your broad strokes and Ill continue to pick it apart.

Steele grew a pair and look at where he is at, Jindahl refuses to be the token and look at how they cut back heavily his appearances.

Originally posted by AngryOne
BTW,why is it that no one seems willing to tackle the subject of anti-White racism?

White supremacists do a pretty good job of keeping that meme alive. They seem to be the only ones who raise the subject since it comes across as being incredibly obtuse to everyone else.

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Steele grew a pair and look at where he is at, Jindahl refuses to be the token and look at how they cut back heavily his appearances.

And the other side doesn't pander and use their 'minorities' in a similar way? So back to the OP. Here we have a black business man, that refuses to use the color of his skin as an excuse to not be successful and yet he has. He also holds conservative principles but that MUST mean he has white handlers somewhere huh?

Drop the facade Immaculate. You are bitter and mad that a black man has an independent mind to choose his path in life rather than fall back on the "I'm black and the white people are holding me down"....the barrier in which he broke and defies.

www.mediaed.org...

this is a really interesting 59 minute documentary by an Australian Journalist on the Tea Party phenomenon. The real interesting part is that he proves without a doubt that the Koch brothers are orchestrating the whole thing and have been for a long time. During a gathering of Koch's pet group Americans For Prosperity, the different division managers give verbal reports to the Koch brothers about how they started, manipulated, and funded tea parties all over the USA.
Since the 1980's the Koch brothers have been using unsuspecting citizens through paid plants and propaganda advertising. They get in and "educate" the people, basically sway them into believing what the Koch brothers want them to believe. After 20+ years the Koch brothers have taken the art of manipulation to a whole new level with the tea party.
After watching this video, you will understand why the tea party seems to focus on things like being anti union, and pro free trade, anti cap and trade, and pro lack of regulations and business law. Its because they are being swayed too.
But please, watch this. I'm am sure its not just the Koch brothers who are fighting to trick the public into doing things they normally wouldn't do.

Originally posted by TKDRL
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Are you retarded? I hate republicans, and I hate democrats. They are both the same thing. They are both the same thing. They are both liars. They are both liars.

Ive been reading your post off and on here for a while, and I really do agree with a lot of what you say. Especially this. If only more people would wake up and realize that Republicans and Democrats are the same at the core. They only work for the richest of the rich, and could care less about us, the people. The only difference is the way they advertise themselves, but the end results will be the same. I just cant understand why so many people have never figured this out yet. They are so obvious in this with their actions. You cant listen to their words, those are all lies. Its their actions that tell who they really are. And they are the same.

Originally posted by lawlb0t
"You think you're Afro-American?
Doctrine of Colourability.

Uh, thats a Ras Kas song lyrics.

the Doctrine of Colourability is a Canadian law on the colour of laws. nothing to do with a person of colour.
The Doctrine of Colourable, is a Parliamentary law in India.
Dred Scott case had nothing to do with any of these. Dred Scott case was in 1847, I do believe way before the 14th amendment of 1868


DENY IGNORANCE

Originally posted by ownbestenemy

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Steele grew a pair and look at where he is at, Jindahl refuses to be the token and look at how they cut back heavily his appearances.

And the other side doesn't pander and use their 'minorities' in a similar way? So back to the OP. Here we have a black business man, that refuses to use the color of his skin as an excuse to not be successful and yet he has. He also holds conservative principles but that MUST mean he has white handlers somewhere huh?

Drop the facade Immaculate. You are bitter and mad that a black man has an independent mind to choose his path in life rather than fall back on the "I'm black and the white people are holding me down"....the barrier in which he broke and defies.

My point is and has always been that given the track record of the ConserviBaggers and minority groups is why would anyone from that group still identify as GOP-Bagger for?

He'll be the GOP King until he says or does something and it will instantly make him Public Enemy No. 1 and get treated like a second class citizen in his own party. McCain clearly admitted that he wanted to make African Americans back to being 2/3 of a person on The View in Ear 08. The GOP Mantra concentrate on No. 15 :

1. Continue and guarantee that the top 10% of earners don't have to contribute a thing to the economy.
2. Continually allow the banks to do whatever the flip they want and to blindly give them another multi trillion dollar bailout package whenever they get a bug up their tail.
3. Continually send our jobs oversees which will double and triple the unemployment rates.
4. Engage us in an armed conflict with Iran and North Korea while keeping the Wars Over Energy going.
5. Deny people the basic right to essential services like Medicaid, Social Security and cancel all social programs effectively leaving those like me who are unable to hold down a 40 hour 5 day a week job to fend for ourselves!
6. Allow time and time again the poisoning of our food and water supply while protecting the companies that are harming us.
7. Kill off the electric and non petrolchemical powered transportation.
8. Allow for more foriegn influence into our process domestically (law passages, elections)
9. Kill off any non white people!
10. Kill our chance to compete on the world's stage while cutting public school education while leaving the private schools alone.
11. Turn this "War On Terrorism" into a "Holy War" between Islam-Muslim and Christian-Hebrew!
12. Allow time and time again your health insurance company the control to deny you and your family any treatment they want. < These are the real "Death Panels" a bunch of insurance company employees sitting around dictating who gets what coverage.
13. Do nothing about this immigrant issue so the multi trillion dollar lobbyists firms can contunally exploit them for cheap and dirt cheap labour all the while not demanding that any of it remains stateside all while evading the Federal Income Tax laws,
14. Allow you to lose your job and home for whatever reason your employer and lender dictates and not have the populous the right to challenge any claim.
15. Return to an era whereas an African American was legally declared 2/3 of a person and Women weren't allowed out of the kitchen, forget about having the right to own property, hold down a job, have a say in matters pertaining to thier own bodies, have the right to vote, be forced to endure consistant beatings and belittements if they didn't have dinner done in time, being subjected to forced spousal rape. Do y'all really want to subject your daughters, mothers, sisters, aunts to this? African Americans would be forced back into the cotton fields stripped of all rights, properties, jobs, and all money earned. McCain admitted this while on The View in Ear

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
My point is and has always been that given the track record of the ConserviBaggers and minority groups is why would anyone from that group still identify as GOP-Bagger for?

I don't even know what I am even having this discussion with someone that can't go a minute without making some comical twit remark. You drive your intelligence down with terms like "ConserviBaggers" and "GOP-Bagger". You could have fascinating points, but you don't want to engage those, you want to be cool with your terms. So be it.

McCain clearly admitted that he wanted to make African Americans back to being 2/3 of a person on The View in Ear 08.

While I am not familiar with this, can you provide the backing to the claim of a clear admission?

As for your list...

1. Continue and guarantee that the top 10% of earners don't have to contribute a thing to the economy.

Here you are completely either ignorant or pushing an agenda. The bottom 47% of wage earners essentially pay no taxes. In fact, they receive more money back from the Government than they put in. As for the top 10% of earners, they contribute roughly around 73% of all taxes combined. The top 1% contribute to about 40% of tax revenue.

Now according to the Government, I fall into that top 10%. You saying I don't contribute a thing to the economy? I don't work my tail off doing what I love; helping to ensure that the flying public gets from point A to point B safely and quickly? My complaint rises from what I put in is a horrible return on investment. Schools are failing...but they just need more money. Among other things including defense spending, I am pissed at the squandering of my hard earned money going to things that just don't matter....

Side Note: Education is paramount and should be a priority of any society, but not the government. They should only be a non-player in ensuring that each American has equal access based on their ability and desire to learn.

2. Continually allow the banks to do whatever the flip they want and to blindly give them another multi trillion dollar bailout package whenever they get a bug up their tail.

Um, that was a Democratically controlled Congress that gave out the last round of money. I was opposed to the Bush era bailouts and opposed to Obama era bailouts. Supporting failing business models and propping up failing companies is not what the government should be doing. Both sides are guilty here. Stop being blinded.

3. Continually send our jobs oversees which will double and triple the unemployment rates.

NAFTA is a huge reason for this. It again is both parties.

4. Engage us in an armed conflict with Iran and North Korea while keeping the Wars Over Energy going.

We are not militarily engaged with either of those countries. I would stand side by side with you if they started it. In regards to the Iraq and Afghanistan...thats another debate and discussion.

But...the Iraq War Resolution had support from again, both parties. Both parties are guilty. There were a few brave representatives that took a stand and I commend them all...regardless of their party affiliation.

To squarely place war-mongering upon the shoulders of just Republicans, how do you explain away that the 111th Congress did NOTHING when they (Democrats) were holding all the cards in regards to the war(s)?

5. Deny people the basic right to essential services like Medicaid, Social Security and cancel all social programs effectively leaving those like me who are unable to hold down a 40 hour 5 day a week job to fend for ourselves!

Social Security and Medicaid are not basic rights. They are services that we created as a social net. While the intentions were grand, they were and are unsustainable. You are okay with programs that rob others via taxes and that give to you. Fine. But when anyone tries to find fixes to these programs that are bankrupt and over budget, people scream bloody murder!

6. Allow time and time again the poisoning of our food and water supply while protecting the companies that are harming us.

Again, both parties are guilty. You just want your scapegoat and you obviously are entrenched with it.

7. Kill off the electric and non petrolchemical powered transportation.

Trains, which is what I think you are referring to and possibly electric cars....

We are not Europe (in terms of land mass and city locations). We are widely spread out country that have major cities far apart. Trains, as shown by the wonderful Amtrak just don't sit well with the American public. But because you want it....we should force the habits of free people to engage in commerce how the government sees fit right?

8. Allow for more foriegn influence into our process domestically (law passages, elections)

Please cite....

9. Kill off any non white people!

What? Now you are just pissed and bitter.

10. Kill our chance to compete on the world's stage while cutting public school education while leaving the private schools alone.

The paradigm that is our Public School system is a failure. What do you want to do? Dump more money? Yeah that worked before right?

11. Turn this "War On Terrorism" into a "Holy War" between Islam-Muslim and Christian-Hebrew!

I don't like the War on Terrorism as it is a farce for the most part. But who wants to convert it into a Holy War? Name names!

12. Allow time and time again your health insurance company the control to deny you and your family any treatment they want. < These are the real "Death Panels" a bunch of insurance company employees sitting around dictating who gets what coverage.

Then don't go with an insurance company. They aren't denying you treatment. They are denying your claim. The treatment will be performed regardless. There is nowhere in this country you couldn't walk in and get the medical treatment you need. Have some personal responsibility and invest in a HSA or save money for a rainy day. It is what adults do.

13. Do nothing about this immigrant issue so the multi trillion dollar lobbyists firms can contunally exploit them for cheap and dirt cheap labour all the while not demanding that any of it remains stateside all while evading the Federal Income Tax laws,

Here you are speaking of all Congress and the Executive I hope. They are all in collusion in regards to this save a few that have fought hard and long without results.

14. Allow you to lose your job and home for whatever reason your employer and lender dictates and not have the populous the right to challenge any claim.

What? The government has no say in your terms of employment. That is a private contract between you and your employer. The employer reserves the right to sever that contract if need be for various reasons. Nothing is guaranteed in life. In regards to your home. You willfully entered into a contract and if you break the terms then you are at fault. I know there are situation that are exceptions, but for the most part too many people in this country too advantage of getting too much home they can afford.

15. Return to an era whereas an African American was legally declared 2/3 of a person and Women weren't allowed out of the kitchen, forget about having the right to own property, hold down a job, have a say in matters pertaining to thier own bodies, have the right to vote, be forced to endure consistant beatings and belittements if they didn't have dinner done in time, being subjected to forced spousal rape. Do y'all really want to subject your daughters, mothers, sisters, aunts to this? African Americans would be forced back into the cotton fields stripped of all rights, properties, jobs, and all money earned. McCain admitted this while on The View in Ear

The real conservatives and Republicans (which I tell them daily they are neither) want equality for everyone under the rule of law. The 2/3rds Clause is and was a horrible compromise that we should have hashed out from the beginning but alas, it wasn't and through the amendment process we corrected it. Now of course, just because it was corrected on a legal basis, cultural change takes time. We have been through it. For the vast majority, people don't care about skin color. But you want to continue thinking that all of America hates blacks and want them picking our cotton. Open your eyes. There are only small pockets of such cultural throwbacks left.

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1


The last time I did my taxes, anyone who makes above $8,500 per year (the standard deduction) pays taxes. I'm poor and I have to pay taxes; I understand the Republicans want to raise more taxes on me.

If 47% of the population pays no taxes, as you say, we are a damn poor country.

It's a wonder there hasn't been a revolution.

reply to post by schuyler


To me it's something of a mystery why a man who has personally been subjected to the worst kind of discrimination, as Cain is telling us, now politically supports those who opposed the civil rights movement.

It's true that in the 60's there were southern Democrats (they often called themselves Dixiecrats, to distinguish themselves from the mainstream of the Democratic party) who were also total bigots, but elsewhere in the country, it was the Republicans who tried to repress dissent. That's all changed here now. Southern Democrats are now on the side of inclusion and those who are resistant to integration have moved to the Republican side.

You don't hear Democrats moving to oppose the official designation of Martin Luther King day in their states.

Is he suffering from Stockholm syndrome? Or does he just know who's buttering his bread?

Originally posted by Sestias
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The last time I did my taxes, anyone who makes above $8,500 per year (the standard deduction) pays taxes. I'm poor and I have to pay taxes;

edit on 26-3-2011 by Sestias because: (no reason given)

fire your tax professional.
There are so many deductions that anybody earning < $25K get their taxes back and then some.
I wouldn't speculate why you are poor, but it is certainly not because you are oppressed.
All the whiners out there should get a grip on their lives, brandishing your skin color as a weapon of intimidation and source of income is so-o 20th Century

reply to post by Sestias


Try this:

National Black Republican Association

Stockholm syndrome... Give me a break.


I suppose I suffer from Stockholm syndrome for not supporting La Raza then? And not supporting the democratic party that pretends to speak for me?

(I'm a green card holding Hispanic immigrant BTW)

Edit:

I guess minorities are too stupid to choose their own political leanings then?

I've been researching Herman Cain for a bit after seeing his interview on cspan.
I'm still reseaching him and that's what brought me here. In gurgle I typed in Herman Cain, mind control.

[mind control came up in my suggested terms in tags on youtube automatically [lol]

If you want to get to know Cain and the other candidates better watch CSPAN



Y'all sound like racists to me because no one is really discussing anything but racists and a black man instead of a guy who ran the Kentucky Fed Resv. and was a G5 Civilian Navy Mathematician.

Sheesh that's how we got O'Bummer people.

I'm putting all my links from my research in these videos of Herman Cain.
I still like Ron Paul best but I haven't concluded my research on him either some people say he's a Mason.
Still investigating Masonry...
Enjoy!

reply to post by Analyze76


I am "pushing color" here because, like it or not, race still matters in the United States of America. In both good ways and bad.

Those who pretend that they "don't notice" race are either fooling themselves or, more likely, trying to fool others.

I taught at an historically black college for awhile and believe me, my students noticed I was caucasian and I noticed they were African Americans. This was because neither of us were either stupid or blind.

Before you can improve a situation you have to be able to see clearly what is.