Tea Party Candidate Herman Cain Turns His Back on the African-American Community

reply to post by Sestias


Yes I agree. I wasn't referencing your comments but the article you quoted in terms of my response. The perceptions of color are only pertuated by those that continue to view each persons color and then placing them into a box.

I personally think Mr. Cain's views shows that he understands America's past. He does not however use it as an excuse in his life. To be quite silly and to quote a movie; "We can change our stars". We cannot if we continue to just use excuses of past transgressions as a reason that we cant 'get ahead.' Many black, yellow, white, and brown colored skin people have proven that it isn't the 'man' that holds us back, but our own willingness to find a crutch and hold onto it tightly.

Originally posted by inforeal
What must be understood is this:
When you ride one of those huge highways, usually county, such as route 10 or route 22 in New Jersey, all states have them . . . you see thousands of stores along the route, such as Wall Marts, Sears, Kmart’s, Whole Foods, huge furniture stores, even large Malls, etc. Most likely all of those stores if you get out of your car at each one and ask to see the owner . . . . NOT ONE WILL BE A BLACK PERSON!
That’s the situation of race in America.

Do you read what you post, or are you just following a script?

When your mom stops the car, and walks you to the WalMart, Sears, KMart, Whole Foods, and large malls, did you ever notice the little signs that say, "Inc." or "Incorporated" after the name of the store. When you get home have her read from the business section of the newspaper the stock prices of the "Inc." that own these businesses. Each of these are publicly-traded corporations.

That means that people of ANY race or planet of origin can own any of them by buying some of their stock.

When you say "most likely" you make it clear that you have never done so yourself, and that you make this statement out of ignorance of the truth or deliberate misrepresentation.

In my own communities, two of the most successful businessmen are Ernesto Ancira (not your average Anglo name, there) and Eric Dickerson (your dad will know who he is).

What about some of the most successful entrepreneurs in America? Self-made men who got where they are not by looking backwards for an excuse to give up without trying, but looking forward to what they could achieve after multiple failures: Robert L. Johnson, George Foreman, Don Peebles, Barry Gordy and Ken Chenault. (I once lived 4 blocks from Shaquille O'Neal, when his dad was still in the Army; his biggest advantage, besides his size and talent was his home discipline; ask him).
Self-made women who are leaders in their fields include Linda Rice and Oprah Winfrey.

When people post their prejudices and beliefs, instead of the truth and facts, no one benefits, and they lose credibility.

Try harder next time.

jw

Originally posted by inforeal
What must be understood is this:

When you ride one of those huge highways, usually county, such as route 10 or route 22 in New Jersey, all states have them . . . you see thousands of stores along the route, such as Wall Marts, Sears, Kmart’s, Whole Foods, huge furniture stores, even large Malls, etc. Most likely all of those stores if you get out of your car at each one and ask to see the owner . . . . NOT ONE WILL BE A BLACK PERSON!

That’s the situation of race in America.

Black CEO's, COO's and Chairmen of large companies:

Kenneth C. Frazier

Company: Merck & Co., Inc.
Position: President, Chief Executive Officer and Director
Industry: Health Care
Country: United States

Clarence Otis, Jr.

Born: April 11, 1956, Vicksburg, MS.
Company: Darden Restaurants, Inc.
Position: Chief Executive Officer and President
Industry: Food Services
Country: United States

Kenneth I. Chenault

Born: June 2, 1951, New York, New York. Company: American Express Position: Chairman and CEO Industry: Financial Services Country: United States

Rodney O'Neal

Born: c. 1954 Company: Delphi Corporation Position: Chief Executive Officer and President Industry: Automotive Country: United States

Ronald A. Williams

Born: c. 1950 Company: Aetna Inc. Position: Chairman and CEO Industry: Health Care Country: United States

Ursula M. Burns

Born: New York, New York, September 20, 1958 Company: Xerox Corporation Position: Chairman and CEO Industry: Printing and Imaging Equipment Country: United States

John W. Thompson

Born: April 24, 1949, in Fort Dix, New Jersey Company: Symantec Corporation Position: Chairman Industry: Technology Country: United States

Don Thompson

Born: 1963, Chicago, IL. Company: McDonald's Position: President and Chief Operating Officer Industry: Food Country: United States

These people are LEADERS in some of the largest companies on earth. Fortune 500 companies. ALL black.

There's a big list of Hispanic CEOs as well. But yeah, white man's keepin' them down...

Seriously, it helps to do some research, it helps to get your facts first, then you can twist them as you see fit to suit your agenda. I'm sure these folks don't count to you because they're not the kind of black people you're imagining. I'm sure to you they're all just race traitors who turned their back on the black community.

I swear sometimes I think people like you believe that black people can only be poor, on welfare, or rappers. I find that insanely racist. Also OBAMA could not have been voted president without 60% of the white demographic vote.

Lt. Col. Allen West(US Army Ret.-A Black Man) was voted into congress in a district that is heavily conservative and 96% white, most Tea Party supporters. People like you are OVER BLOWING racism in this country just so you can score political points for you side. It's DISGUSTING and you should be ashamed of yourselves.

reply to post by jdub297

I think it's great that you and your family have achieved success in life. No one in this thread is saying that it CAN'T be done, only that there are other factors beside one's hard work and talents that have a strong impact on what and how much they can achieve.

I'm wondering what you are saying when you say a person is successful. These days anything less than multiple millions is thought to be relatively a failure.

A person can be hardworking and quite talented and persevering and intelligent and still not "make it" in terms of our society. Artists are one group that comes to mind. There are thousands of remarkably talented people in all areas of the arts who are not recognized as much as a very few others. The most famous are not necessarily the most talented. It helps to have money to grease one's way into the right exhibits and the notice of the right buyers and the right collections. Generally people in the arts know in advance that they will not have much in the way of material things but still choose to do what they love. It depends on one's values.

Then there are other people who work at whatever employment that is open to them and work exceptionally hard and are excellent problem solvers and all the things successful people are supposed to be, and still they don't become what "winners" in our society are supposed to become. This is because Horatio Alger was wrong. Everybody who is virtuous and persevering does NOT come out on top. This is a myth he perpetuated in order to make one hopeful even when one's own personal choices are limited. It's also perpetuated in order to insure a docile population that blames itself if it can't achieve what society deems an acceptable level of material wealth. It is propaganda from the privileged class who need to dangle the carrot of possibility before those docile plebs whose sweat and toil makes them rich and whose adulation they crave.

In our society today, we don't recognize people as "successful" unless they have a few million dollars. It doesn't matter whether they inherit or earn it, the money is the mark of success. Mere millionaires are considered just middle class by most of society. The dollars one must accumulate in order to get into the ranks of the blessed get to be more and more all the time.

It is well known that the rich associate primarily with other rich people. They then become the connections who refer each other and each other's children to the "right" jobs and employers. They share a particular set of manners and customs and even political opinions. Going to the right (usually private) schools and membership in a country club are also required if one wants to move among the privileged classes. It's all in all a very closed group that is not very receptive to gate crashers. One can be the best person in the world and still not make it into the ranks of the privileged. It takes money to make money.

No matter how diligent one may be, most of us will never have a shot at becoming Donald Trump's apprentice. He chooses his contestants from among a very select pool. No matter how remarkable we may be, we just don't travel in Trump's circle. But we watch him on television and dream.

I realize some of this sounds vaguely Marxist, but Marx was not wrong about many things, even though true communism has proved to be a utopian dream that can only exist in a perfect world. Many people who despise him have never read any of his work.

reply to post by hangedman13


Question.

What exactly makes Al Sharpton racist? I see this claim a lot, and it's generally pawned like "the sky is blue, water is wet, Al Sharpton's a racist."

So could you lay that out for me?

Herman Cain

Herman Cain (born December 13, 1945) is an American newspaper columnist, businessman, political activist, and radio talk-show host from Georgia. He is best known as the former chairman and CEO of Godfather's Pizza. He is a former deputy chairman (1992–94) and chairman (1995–96) of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. Cain's newspaper column is distributed by North Star Writers Group. He currently lives in the Atlanta suburbs.

business...

Business

After completing his master's degree, Cain left the Navy department and began working for Coca-Cola as a business analyst. In 1977, he joined Pillsbury where he rose to the position of vice president by the early 1980s. He left his executive post to work for Burger King, a Pillsbury subsidiary, managing 400 stores in the Philadelphia area. Under Cain's leadership, his region went from the least profitable for Burger King to the most profitable in three years. This prompted Pillsbury to appoint him as president and CEO of Godfather's Pizza, another subsidiary. Within 14 months, Cain had returned Godfather's to profitability. In 1988, Cain and a group of investors bought Godfather's from Pillsbury. Cain continued as CEO until 1996, when he resigned to become CEO of the National Restaurant Association where he had previously been chairman concurrently with his role at Godfather's.[4]

And just so we stop on this mile journey...

Herman Cain

Fellow Patriots,

Welcome to the new HermanCain.com, home to my presidential exploratory committee. Here, you will find all of the important information necessary to keep up-to-date with my decision-making process as I continue to determine how God wants me to best serve our great nation.

The American Dream is under attack. In fact, a recent survey found 67% of the American People believe America is headed in the wrong direction. Sadly, this comes as no surprise to those of us who have watched an out-of-control federal government that spends recklessly, taxes too much and oversteps its Constitutional limits far too often.

and books of his

www.amazon.com...=ntt_athr_dp_sr_1?_encoding=UTF8&sort=relevancerank&search-alias=books&field-author=Herman%20Cain

he made some interesting choices...

for those of you wondering...yes he flipped burgers and did the fires at the burger king he worked at... Its important in the sense that he worked his way up... WORKed is the key word...

I see it just like i see 50 cent... a lot of work and effort expended on the climb... you make it and then those not in the know whine...

If we had a few more Americans who work as hard as he does say 10% this country would recover over night







calls them out to say.... called them out....



lmeao...




walk the mile, walk the mind... it would make it an interesting run ..
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Originally posted by inforeal
Anybody who rejects his peoples oppression and essentially accepts it as something either non harmful or uneventful is in a state of denial.
We are talking about 250 years of abject slavery and another 100 of being a second and third class citizen, AND PEOPLE THINK THERE WILL BE NO HARMFUL EFFECT, even over generations?

All statistics point out the harm of slavery and Jim Crow racism is still affecting the black masses in a very negative way.

Either black people are inferior to whites, because ALL the statistics point out that blacks are still FAR BEHIND whites in practically everything, or racism has been and still is so pernicious to black people they can't keep up because of it.

This sounds like what Women have been complaining about (Equal Rights). Sitting on the sideline and complaining wont get the race anywhere. Hard work and education will. 250 years is right and It is amazing why the african american community is still is where it wants to be. Who decides the classes in citizens? Which statistics are you talking about? The votebank statistics to extort money from the tax payers every election year? Look at the other races in US which are far more successful even though they're relatively new as immigrants. There are people who constantly cry about their past and there are people who do something about their future.

Racism exists in every corner of the world. Including within African continent. Have you been to any other country overseas? You'll be shocked and surprised that you're not in those countries and be thankful that you're in US. What do you know about poverty or struggle?

Originally posted by inforeal
What must be understood is this:

When you ride one of those huge highways, usually county, such as route 10 or route 22 in New Jersey, all states have them . . . you see thousands of stores along the route, such as Wall Marts, Sears, Kmart’s, Whole Foods, huge furniture stores, even large Malls, etc. Most likely all of those stores if you get out of your car at each one and ask to see the owner . . . . NOT ONE WILL BE A BLACK PERSON!

That’s the situation of race in America.

That is such an uneducated statement to make. What about NIKE? Just one example. There are others. Besides most of them are owned by Share Holders and not individuals. Ever study Investment? What are you smoking? How old are you?

AA_BUSINESSMEN

reply to post by ripcontrol



Your lengthy post just confirms that Cain has all the Tea Party talking points and Fox News on his side.

He pretends he's a populist, on the side of the common man, when really he is only talking for the elites. Corporate tax cuts for the rich will not help the middle and working classes, for example, but he sounds as though they will. You can talk "trickle down" economics all you want, but the reality is corporate tax breaks have only allowed big business to create more jobs -- in India, China, Mexico, etc. Not here.

The only way for Americans to get their jobs back is if they agree to work for third-world wages, about $1.00 an hour on average. This will enable them to be employed full time and still not have enough money to live on. They will become like many New York City residents, the working homeless.

Ah. How great that would be for the average worker, right? (Wrong!)

reply to post by Sestias


Sir I have to respectfully disagree.... he worked his way up to where he is now... I dont know to many people who have held the white house who can ever say the asked..

"Would you like fries with that?"

I do not see elitist here... a lot of hard work and sacrifice.....


which part of his statements make him an elitist...

It is amazing how many people were part of the Tea Party or affiliated with FOX news before Reagan? Common people. What you are doing so far is ranting and singing and tapdancing the same songs and tunes that the MSM and others have been doing out in the open. Nobody has come up with a solution but rather criticism of who is good and who is not but not a single person has come up with the solution on either side (Dems or Republics). But then again, thats politics. Never let anyone get to know the truth but keep them circling around the idea.

Originally posted by ripcontrol
reply to post by Sestias

 

I do not see elitist here... a lot of hard work and sacrifice.....


which part of his statements make him an elitist...

I respect his work ethic, his intelligence and the fact that he has risen from humble beginnings, but that's not the point.

What makes him an elitist is the fact that he supports the rule of, by and for the rich. Like most of the Tea Party, he claims to be a populist but then undermines everything the middle class stands for.

reply to post by Sestias


Oh i get it...So the middle class are suppose to hate the people that sign their paychecks...Gotcha.

reply to post by projectvxn


Do you think you should feel grateful for a paycheck?

Originally posted by SmedleyBurlap
reply to post by projectvxn

 

Do you think you should feel grateful for a paycheck?

Shouldnt anyone be?

Or is working bad now?

reply to post by projectvxn


You don't have to hate your employer (many of whom are not huge corporations). Some of them are fair and honest in their dealings with workers. Even if they are screwing you every which way, it is paycheck after all.

But you can resist the idea that your salary has to be cut in order to fund tax cuts for corporations who take most or all of their jobs overseas. You can respectfully disagree with your employer and still be a good worker. You can object to the fact that soon the middle class will have to work at third-world salaries in order to work at all.

You can expect to see the middle class and working classes to go down into extreme poverty.

In New York City there have long been what are called "the working homeless." Many have full-time jobs at minimum wage but cannot afford the rent in that city, which begins at about $1,000.00 a month for a tiny one-room apartment. Consequently they live on the subways, under bridges, etc.

That'll be the norm in the whole country if the corporations get their way.

But hey, you can't diss big money, can you?

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by hangedman13

 

Question.

What exactly makes Al Sharpton racist? I see this claim a lot, and it's generally pawned like "the sky is blue, water is wet, Al Sharpton's a racist."

So could you lay that out for me?

Shapton only cares about issues pertaining to the African American community and if you put yourself out there the way he has and ignore others from other skin colours means he is selective in choosing what Civil Rights fights he does while MLK fought for the freedom of all.

reply to post by projectvxn


That is YOUR money. YOU earned it. Why should you feel grateful to someone for giving you what is YOURS?

reply to post by SmedleyBurlap


I got what your saying, but why should one be indignant for having to work?

Why should we be against the very people who do the hiring in this country?

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1

Originally posted by AngryOne
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

 

There is no such animal as Anti White Racism so stop right there.

WHAT PLANET ARE YOU LIVING ON?!?!?!?!?!?!??!

Since the LA Riots has there been any Caucasians attacked based upon their race?

Three black guys yelling "Obamas the Greatest", crossed Hollywood Blvd and attacked my son, his friend and his girlfriend, the weekend after BO's election. They struck the girl first and then all hell broke loose.

The Obama supporters got bloodied and a trip in a black and white by LA's finest for their efforts. A black couple that witnessed the situation told the police my son and friends were just minding their own business when these guys crossed and started the fight. Made the Los Angeles Times if you care to look it up!!

Right here on the streets of Los Angeles.