La Bruzzo wants to drug test welfare recepients...

reply to post by larrydavid


I talked to a supervisor at one of the agencies I applied for she told they had 300+ applicants for ONE job opening. It is not that easy in this economy to just get a job. I put out 100 applications in a year and only had TWO job interveiws.

Originally posted by HaveAnotherOne
reply to post by larrydavid

 

Now would be the perfect time for them to learn a new skill. Web design (php, Ajax etc etc).

There are countless free tutorials online just sitting there for the taking.

Once they learn a new skill, they have increased their marketability. Jobs looking for php programmers are popping up all over.

Very interesting. I never knew that going on the internet and learning a new skill will magically put food on the table and keep a roof over your head. This has to be one of the best kept secrets of all time LOL

And I still want to know how 14 million Americans can all get the 300,000 jobs that are available. More magic and wishful thinking I suppose?

reply to post by HaveAnotherOne


Yes because someone who has no money or job can afford to both get the Internet and take the time necessary to learn a new trade.

Take it from someone who is actually doing a Uni degree in Web Design at the moment, you haven't a clue what you are talking about.

reply to post by Kryties


Take it from someone who does it for a living. Get off campus out in the real world kid and then talk to me about how easy or hard things are.

It isn't that hard to learn. If they have no job, it's not like they have a lot of time constraints.

For those without internet access at home, there are libraries that offer free access.

reply to post by HaveAnotherOne


Hmmm, I don't know what course you did mate but mine takes 4 years to complete.

reply to post by Kryties


Lol it took you 4 years to learn PHP and AJAX?

WOW!

reply to post by ripcontrol


Well it's about time! Everyone applying for assistance should be drug tested! Tired of my tax dollars going to people who are too lazy to work! I understand that some people do genuinely need assistance, but for the most part it's just a free ride for lazy folks. It burns my arse when I see a woman at the grocery store paying for steak and lobster with her foodstamp card (or what ever it's called) and then procedes to her Escalade and drives away. While I work 50 plus hours a week and have no steak in my cart. But thats a different discussion entirely. People using drugs should not receive any assistance. period.Get a job to support your drug habit! Not with my tax dollars........ While they're at it, give out some free birth control to stop the breeders from procreating !

reply to post by HaveAnotherOne


Its a B.A. Internet Communications if you really must know, includes a lot more than AJAX and PHP.

Somehow though, methinks you are telling porky pies.

Originally posted by dreamseeker
reply to post by larrydavid

 

I talked to a supervisor at one of the agencies I applied for she told they had 300+ applicants for ONE job opening. It is not that easy in this economy to just get a job. I put out 100 applications in a year and only had TWO job interveiws.

Yep. And thats how it is all across the country.

A very sad state of affairs we are now in.

But yet these idealist like to pretend that the people who are homeless, unemployed or on welfare are just lazy drug addicts.

Hey I guess if it helps them sleep at night.

Originally posted by dreamseeker
reply to post by Whereweheaded

 

I disagree everyone can fall on hard times. There is no guarntees with jobs either we are all dependent on something regardless. It is simply inhumane to not have a system to help those who need it.
Section 8 housing would not have to exist if apartments were more reasonable and there was enough jobs for everyone and that accomendates disablities. This programs are humane and how does that make it unconstutional forget about yourself for a minute. It is selfish to complain about the small amount you pay into the system. We are taxed from everywhere I can understand. I would rather see my tax money go towards helping others than being wasted on $1,000 government toilets or something.
I have 2 part time jobs and I still need some assistance. Life is so short really for this arguement.
Back on topic; where is the money coming from to test people? Short answer probably from the tax payer!

edit on 18-3-2011 by dreamseeker because: (no reason given)

You last sentence sums it up! Once again, testing on behalf of the tax payer, further solidifies the burden. As for your statement:

Section 8 housing would not have to exist if apartments were more reasonable and there was enough jobs for everyone and that accomendates disablities

You have the Unions and the government to thank for that! Assume for a moment your a business owner, and you have either choice, to pay a Union worker, who is a hard worker, but gets paid 40 an hour. Along with that worker you have a lazy worker who is also a Union worker, making the same 40 an hour, but does 50% less work than your good worker. Do you pay those wages? Or do you outsource with no Union labor costs, and pay a new employee 20 an hour to do the same work, and get probably 50% more production out of him/her? Answer is easy, basic economics.

Point is, the Unions, the USG, and the corporations are responsible for outsourcing...but in the same token, a person is in business to make money, to turn a profit. Not in business to lose money. So?...you go where its more cost effective. Yes its ashame, ( bare in mind I was in lay off status for nearly a year, so I know how difficult it is out there) but it reverts back to basic economics, and, living within your means. Which clearly alot of people did not do~

Excellent news! I have been observing this for years. I am truly rooting for it to happen for all the same reasons.

I also agree with random drug screening throughout the duration of collecting benefits.

My belief is that Welfare is more often than not, a personal choice. Anyone who has a smidge of motivation and pride in supporting their family will do whatever it takes to support their family. That INCLUDES entering into a profession that you may not necessarily want to do for the time being.

reply to post by HaveAnotherOne


First of all that is absurd to ask me to fund to build an apartment. I am one person living on maybe 15K per year! You can't have it both ways no welfare or assistance and expensive housing. It has to either one or the other! What do you want the poor to do? Just die or be homeless. Seriously I want to hear your suggestions to fixing things. There are millions of people who need jobs but less than half a million jobs available. There are 50 million disabled and seniors plus the baby boomer generation about to retire which will free up more jobs but more people will need some form of assitance.
Social Security is not welfare but a person gets welfare assitance such as food stamps and ssi with it.

Originally posted by Kryties
reply to post by HaveAnotherOne

 

Its a B.A. Internet Communications if you really must know, includes a lot more than AJAX and PHP.

Somehow though, methinks you are telling porky pies.

edit on 18/3/2011 by Kryties because: (no reason given)

No he's not...he did a thread along time ago on his old account, ( before he left for awhile ) about the programming industry, including all the ins and outs of the computer industry. My advice, listen to Haveanotherone, knows what he's talking about. I've seen his work. Further, you might learn more from his tutelage than some 4 year degree on a college campus. Trust me, there is alot bigger world out there than your college life~

reply to post by Kryties


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reply to post by ripcontrol


So you want to save money huh? Well drug testing is a fail. Do you realize how much red tape there will be to process all these tests? There will have to be new buildings constructed and staffed to handle this.

Fine, you want me to go sit in some class for an hour every week? Whatever. It's not like I have anything better to do. I will get drunk, and go sit in class that the taxpayers paid for after I get there in a cab that the taxpayers paid for.

An addict has to want to quit, forcing them into a class is entirely useless.

reply to post by Whereweheaded


This is not the case for everyone. Not everyone is lazy,(or on drugs!); just because someone is poor does not make them bad. I see you have little sympathy for the indivual. I don't see you coming up with a better solution here. How would you handle it?

reply to post by dreamseeker


Well you seem to think "reasonably priced apartments" are a right. They are not.

There is no right to affordable housing. It is something you EARN through working for it. Costs need to be covered, workers need to be paid, etc etc.

You seem to want some fairy tale land that simply doesn't exist. This is reality. It isn't pretty, it isn't fair, and it shouldn't be any other way.

Originally posted by HaveAnotherOne
reply to post by Kryties

 

Given your previous thoughts, your opinions mean as much as your life does.

Nothing. Zero. Zilch. ""

There are literally countless freelance opportunities for someone who knows php/mysql

Freelance Jobs #1

Freelance jobs #2

Freelance gigs #3

I am done talking with you. You have really exposed what type of person you are.

I was taught to "never cast my pearls before swine".


As long as you got yours, thats all that matters right? To hell with everyone else?

reply to post by HaveAnotherOne

So what is your solution then. You also dreaming because poor people can NOT afford the market rate!

reply to post by dreamseeker

How would you handle it?

First I would cut all Unconstitutional social programs out of the budget. i would re-implement the gold standard back on the dollar, allowing for a valued tangible asset to back the dollar, which would increase the purchasing power. I would remove the Federal reserve, ( because most people know that there is no oversight nor regulation ) decrease currency production, deflate the dollar. As for jobs, I would bring back all the outsourced careers that were sent over seas, and re-open the the TRUE Free market.