*UPDATE* Jim Berkland (Geologist), W Coast Quake window starts March 19 2011 *ATS Experiment Added*

Originally posted by SMR
You have any proof showing you predicted anything ?
Anyone can register and make a first post claiming to say what you have. You need to post proof of what you say otherwise be prepared for negative replies.

I for one do not believe you at all. All I see is you claiming this and that and no proof.
How did you predict this stuff ? Show us.

I was wondering if you could prove you could understand evidence presented that might involve overwhelming evidential in mathematic and high numerical probabilities and other scientifically sound expressions of a formal scientific study.

From your question, I have doubts you can understand the scientific process and just use the "proof" card to quell your own fears by injecting requests for data you really could not understand anyway.

Yes proof exists that such abilities exists, but if we can bill you for the scientific study on this individual, we can give you access to the data once compiled.

I estimate we could get a definitive Stanford study for $2-300,000.00. Send your mail address and we can send you a proposal and where you can send a check. Or, study more yourself and you will see the evidence. You might need to go to places besides your television and base intelligent media. Study how proof is found. You will find it is close to impossible in the scientific paradigm. But Stanford University and Medical Research will take your money for that too. :>)

ZG

reply to post by Katie


I seek my answers within reason and logic. It make sense that I would not seek them in your book.
I will say nothing further to you as well.

reply to post by ZeroGhost


So are we to just take someones word for it that they predicted these events without proof ?
Even Jim Berkland provided proof of his prediction.
This guy signs up and comes in jabbering about he predicted just about everything yet has not one bit of proof. I'll take anything. A drawing would settle for proof. Maybe writings in a diary.

Tomorrow I will come back in here and tell you that I predicted all of today's events that have yet to happen. Maybe a car accident or a falling star. I'll let you know that I predicted it months ago.
Will you believe me ?

reply to post by JohnnyAnonymous



Great thread,
I was thinking last week, of when I was just a small young guy I remember finding a few things in my grandfathers workshop. When I got close to them he told me no to touch them but I can look at them.

They were jars of animal fat. different animals from bear to deer. He had seven different jars. He told me that they read the weather. I never believed him, until one day he showed me how the fat was looking like twister, sure enough a day or so later there was a tornado.

I have heard others using animal fat in jars to predict weather, I heard stories form other older generation
about it working with earthquakes, but now that its almost 30 years later, I haven't heard of people using
that anymore. Probably cause it's easier to watch the weather on t.v.

I did ask my local butcher (on Monday) who also does do "game animal" if it was possible to save the fat for me so I can make what my grandfather had and he said no he can not. I asked if it was because it was being saved for that same reason, and he said that he has not heard of that in years, but he still couldn't save it for me.

Now I see you thread today and wonder anyone else hear of this, or is trying this now?

I took the advice at the top of this thread and counted lost and found animals on craigslist for several American cities for March 16 and 17. Here are the results:

New York City - 6
Chicago - 7
Memphis - 6
Los Angeles - 43
San Francisco - 49
Seattle-Tacoma - 57

Berkland says he uses lost animal data to predict quakes.

This does not look encouraging for the west coast. Water containers, canned food, and a first aid kit are cheap insurance. Good luck, may the force be with all of us.

The only prediction that came true here on ATS was some dude saying he had a dream about Japan having an earthquake. No specific date or details were given.

Well, Japan is in the area that has earthquakes often, and its a waiting game before a big one strikes. With so many horrible "predictions" on this website, it is no wonder that someone's ambiguous, half-assed "prediction" came true.

I can say I have a dream that U.S. will have an earthquake.. sometime in the future. Eventually it will happen, and if it happens soon I will be heralded as some kind of prophet.


Many ATS users are really sad.

NEW MADRID PREDICTION
I thought this was relative to this thread. (Sorry if it has already been posted else where.)

It pretty much falls inline with earthquakes, and predictions.

I confess to skimming this thread but what the OP said in his opening post struck me dumb almost.
"weird knots in my stomach" I had that same feeling all last week to the point I was chewing Rolaids left and right and it would not go away.
I have no proof of this but my bitching to my wife but I speak the truth here.
I have never had that feeling before, nor do I ever want it again.
Now I will go back about 10 pages and catch up here.
Regards, Iwinder

reply to post by TmTrvlr


I'm in Visalia, in the Central Valley, and there's little to no chance that an 8 or 9 will hit us directly. Not unless something happens on the Sierra Nevada fault. More likely would be that something would happen on the San Andreas or Calaveras faults. The main worry for us would be a huge quake causing issues up the Sacramento River, breaking some dams and levees, and then it moving its way down the valley.

reply to post by JohnnyAnonymous

A relative had a psychotic episode that began to manifest a few days before the quake...
...two mental health wards I have had contact with as a result...
...report elevated numbers at the moment...
...has anyone else seen this phenomena?

reply to post by frozenspark


I don't believe in people trying to be prophets.

I do believe these are other dimensions which hold universal truths and knowledge and with fine tuning humans can regain and utilise to a certain extent, the ability to 'see into' these truths and to be more sensitive to environmental factors.Llike the 6th sense thing, even if you only looked at it scientifically, it would be the debatable amount of neurones and brain that isn't used by humans. Perhaps like the Akashic record, or ancestor wisdom, EMF frequencies or other utilisation of 'unseen' forces it is the ability to access information.

It's perfectly natural and an ability humans used to use more often, some are in tune to it now, some choose to deny it's existence.

Either way, I wouldn't view people with such an ability as prophets.

earthquake.usgs.gov...

There seem to be a lot of big earthquakes happening in Ahome, Mexico. A lot of them are above 5.0 magnitude. The strongest one was a 5.5. It could be a precursor to an earthquake in California. Ahome (located on the Gulf of California/Sea of Cortez) is on the ring of fire just like the San Andreas fault.

reply to post by vrdaygodubbin


we had similar weather here, for days there was smoky haze after Japan, until this afternoon when the sky became clear.

reply to post by mesle123


Hi Mesle,

I had another friend also comfirmed having earaches lately. Also in PNG (a country north of Australia).

My aches have gone, but I can feel some heavy uneasy feeling within my eardrums. There is abviously,a difference in atmospheric pressure that is causing all this. But then again, what is causing this difference in atmospheric pressure???

Could someone kindly provide some light, if any, if this atmospheric pressure has got anything to do with cracks in the faults, unleashing methane into the atmosphere???

reply to post by ZeroGhost


Love your plan and your atitude. I'm starting to monitor X flares/CME's as I think these, in cojunction with the lunar effects, play a role. Check out spaceweather.com and similar sites.

I'm too far away to come dig you out but would if I could.

-namaste

Originally posted by skjalddis

Originally posted by davidgrouchy
This guy is saying a lot of things similar to what Member THEDUDE86
wrote yesterday morning in his thread.

ATS: no Joke this could be another Tunguska Event


They both mention California.
They both cite the patern of quakes going around the ring of fire.
And they both mention 1906.


I have nothing else to add,
just pointing out the similarity
I noticed from watching the video above.

David Grouchy

Last Tuesday evening - that would be 8th March - I was on my way home from work when I felt this curious urge to nip into my local bookstore. For some reason I went right to the back shelves where I don't normally bother to go cos that's where all the college textbooks are kept. Then this book kind of jumped out at me just like I described above and I just knew I had to buy it, even though I couldn't fathom why. That book was "The Great Earthquake and Firestorms of 1906" by Philip L. Fradkin. This is not something that I would normally buy, but when I got home from work Friday and saw what had happened in Japan, I knew there was a reason for me finding that book.

Oddly enough, while doing my own (completely unrelated) research last week, I hit on a tangent that somehow led me to reading about the most devastating disasters in recorded history, most specifically about earthquakes. I don't study EQs normally as they are not overly relevant to my own field (except in the case of rift valleys and such), but I spent a good three hours reading about them on that day for no obvious reason other than a new, sudden, and intense interest.

This was last Thursday afternoon. Less than 12 hours later (by my local time), the EQ/tsunami had struck Japan. Do I think this is anything more than a coincidence? I'm really not sure. It's the kind of thing I wouldn't normally have even mentioned, but it did certainly make the hair on my neck stand up.

Originally posted by SMR
reply to post by ZeroGhost

 

So are we to just take someones word for it that they predicted these events without proof ?
Even Jim Berkland provided proof of his prediction.
This guy signs up and comes in jabbering about he predicted just about everything yet has not one bit of proof. I'll take anything. A drawing would settle for proof. Maybe writings in a diary.

Tomorrow I will come back in here and tell you that I predicted all of today's events that have yet to happen. Maybe a car accident or a falling star. I'll let you know that I predicted it months ago.
Will you believe me ?

Again, the word "proof". Your listed criteria is by no means proof of anything.

Can you please articulate the parameters such real confirm-able "proof" would entail?
What form would proof come in and be acceptable? Be specific.

Would other people who know of this person and believe them be proof? Or, would you need proof they are capable of making such a definitive judgement themselves? You open a can of worms here with such a selfish uninformed demand.

What data would be needed for proof? You would also need proof the data was sound, and followed proper scientific methodology?

And why just you, or do you represent many others?

If Jesus came to your door for shelter and food, would you ask for drivers license or a miracle first, or offer kindness and compassion, assuming he was simply a man in need? Would you ask for proof from a bystander who sees an truck coming and warning or would move first before you turn and look? Such might determine the character of your person.

It disappoints me we are so achaic. Everyone is assumed guilty of lying, because a few have lied? Even old ladies have to have their underwear checked cause one stupid person with a badly made bomb was stuffed in their pants and socks. You are supporting the new anti-human logic we are suffering. Please think about this.

Or, do you want personal proof, something about you personally that would be irrefutable? Of course that would be subjective information and we would need proof for that too, as only you would see the evidence for such. We could not trust you to give us proof.

"Those who do not trust, cannot be trusted." Lao Tsu

It does not work like that. Such psychic information cannot be controlled or targeted as much research has shown. Even remote viewing has limitations that seem to be due to the nature of reality as observed by quantum theorist like Niels Bohr, Einstein and others. But it can be done to a point that it is valuable if not killed by the deadening opinions of unintelligent people.



What would you call proof? Remember, your own proof is not proof to others. We cannot trust you to be honest or forthright, or even sane and without healthy psychological determinant according to your cynical attitude. So tell us your definition of the proof needed for such a request you are making. Not diary drawings. Remembering, we have no proof you are honest or capable of knowing anything so should assume you are neither? Can you prove you do know what proof is? Please elaborate.

ZG

Originally posted by frozenspark
The only prediction that came true here on ATS was some dude saying he had a dream about Japan having an earthquake. No specific date or details were given.

Well, Japan is in the area that has earthquakes often, and its a waiting game before a big one strikes. With so many horrible "predictions" on this website, it is no wonder that someone's ambiguous, half-assed "prediction" came true.

I can say I have a dream that U.S. will have an earthquake.. sometime in the future. Eventually it will happen, and if it happens soon I will be heralded as some kind of prophet.


Many ATS users are really sad.

edit on 17-3-2011 by frozenspark because: (no reason given)

Kinda hard to predict something that hasn't happened in 300 - 400 years.

Originally posted by davidgrouchy
This guy is saying a lot of things similar to what Member THEDUDE86
wrote yesterday morning in his thread.

ATS: no Joke this could be another Tunguska Event


They both mention California.
They both cite the patern of quakes going around the ring of fire.
And they both mention 1906.


I have nothing else to add,
just pointing out the similarity
I noticed from watching the video above.

David Grouchy

And so far they both seem like the most logical when dealing with this and looking at everything and not just what we think it could be..

Probably means it will go down....I'll try and drop this info into conversation later with my roomates and see if they call me out for thinking it's crazy.....then we will see if it actually happens....

Originally posted by robyn
reply to post by ZeroGhost

 

Love your plan and your atitude. I'm starting to monitor X flares/CME's as I think these, in cojunction with the lunar effects, play a role. Check out spaceweather.com and similar sites.

I'm too far away to come dig you out but would if I could.

-namaste

Space Weather is my site of choice too. It is the best general source for good astronomical science and data I have found over the years. I know and have had close business friendships with nuclear, astronomers and solar physicists who I am less than impressed with. But sites like this have good overall offers of information we can trust. Good choice.

Namaste, B1

ZG