Life After Death, Does It Exist?

reply to post by Jonas86


hi Jonas,

Can I just ask when he said he only saw blackness do you mean he was aware of nothingness that sort of thing?

I think that anyone who has been knocked unconscious has too experienced the "Blackness".

I used to play Ice Hockey, I loved playing defenseman. You do alot of forchecking and blocking of shots and you take alot of abuse. Numerous shots in the body and head/helmet.

I got my bell rung once and I blacked out, later requiring stitches due to being high sticked. No cages back then.

Even though I couldn't see, and I was out cold, I could still hear everything around me.

It appears as if the Brain shuts off your vision using that energy to repair the damaged areas areas of the Brain that attributed to the loss of consciousness.

But different from the experience that people who were pronounced dead describe which appears to be the next stage or state after having loss of consciousness.

When the body can no longer support the soul, it appears that the soul simply bails out of the body....
explaining why the people often describe looking at their dead body.

It's like your computer. I build my own, and though all of the hardware and software are configured properly. It doesn't function or run until it has sufficient energy.

The same thing applies to us and our bodies. The body is the hardware, and the soul is the energy which powers it.

reply to post by Iconic


This is interesting about black holes. I don't know much about them other than whats been written in this thread. But when people have those near death experiences some of them say they travel out in space... maybe those black holes are the "tunnel" experiences people are having before getting to the other side..it was said here those might lead to other dimensions...that would be incredible. I never thought about that before..thanks for giving something to chew on

About feinting and blackness..when I was in my teens I used to faint quite a bit --some hormonal or growing pains kind of thing. And I've had experiences of near feinting as an adult. What I can tell you from those is that the blackness gathers...its not all at once but its very very fast, it overcomes you. You know you're gonna feint because the blackness gets worse and within seconds you have feinted. While "out" I can't say that I recall anything other than the blackness..but that may just be the memory of what I saw right before I passed out.

Another thing about black holes is that in drawings of the tunnel experience the tunnels look like a whirlpool which the black hole has been described as. And there is a sensation of speed reported in near death experiences through the tunnel. Fascinating stuff to think about, thank you again.

There are numerous books offering evidence of life after death but how many people take the time to find them? There is a link to my metaphysical blog at testament.org... -- the blog is intended to help readers find noteworthy sources of information concerning metaphysical and spiritual topics. It is disgusting that so many people are accustomed to seeking 'entertainment' rather than enlightenment.

I completely believe that life after death does exist... it's just an indescribable and incomprehensible experience that can't be compared to life as we know it.

I wrote a whole long thread about what I've learned over the past 4 years of studying death as an undergrad. I go into details from the whole Christian perspective of what heaven and hell could possibly entail and into near death experiences.

I wrote way too much to be able to copy and paste a reply into this thread, so I figured I might as well just post a link the information I've already typed up...

Death & The Afterlife

reply to post by Jonas86
Throughout history, dreams have been considered one way in which another reality can communicate with this reality. Although ninety-nine percent of my dreams are what I consider normal, I’ve had a handful of dreams that I consider special. By special, I mean dreams I believe were given to me as a form of communication from an unseen reality. Three dreams I’ve had in particular have convinced me that reincarnation is real.

The first dream I had several years ago. I dreamt I was a bombardier in WWII. I had a different name and I was stationed in England. I dreamt my plane was shot down on a mission over occupied Europe and I died in the crash.

The second dream I had was about four months ago. I dreamt I was in a room with four or five other people. I felt the presence of my deceased father in the room with me but I didn’t see him. I and the other four or five people were told that we were about to be given a “gift.” Shortly thereafter I felt myself flying through blackness. I didn’t know where I was going but I knew I was being guided. I looked off to my right-hand side as I was flying and all I could see were two flashes of light. It didn’t take too long, but eventually we reached a place that I can only describe as a place of pure energy. We then turned around and started to fly back through the darkness. After a short time the blackness turned to grey and then the grey parted. I could see the curvature of the Earth down below me. Soon, I woke back up in the room where we were originally and I understood what was meant when we were told were being given a gift. I knew then that there was life after death.

The third dream I had several weeks ago. I dreamt I was a young man in my early twenties and I had enlisted in the air force. I was being trained along with a young woman about my age on some kind of simulator. We were going to be stationed at a “Space City.” I was kind of amused by the term Space City because I knew that term was really more for public relations than an accurate description. I knew where I was going was to be difficult and the living conditions sparse, but I was looking forward to the experience.

I know this doesn’t amount to proof for any doubters. However for me these dreams are real experiences and I believe I have been given a communication of my past life, what will happen when I pass in this life, and what my next life might be.

I don't think anyone has the answer, none of us are dead

reply to post by Jonas86


I am currently readin "Only Love is Real" by Dr. Brain Weiss. I was able to read like the first 8-9 chapeters for free online and i was sold...i ordered a preused copy and i am almost done...i can hardly set it down...if it wasn't for the children i probably wouldn't! lol I suggest you look into reading some of his material it will explain alot to you and help you understand! I personally....want to do past life regression now. Peace and Love

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I have no knowledge of "what it is like", but I do have experiences that cause me to strongly believe in life after death. I will share two such experiences that are tightly related.
I was divorced a number of years ago. In that same period of time I was meditating in search of some form of spiritual enlightenment. One night, close to sunrise, a female entity came into my dream trying to inflict pinches or perhaps kicks to me. This female said, "Why did you divorce our baby?". I explained that my X didn't like me to touch her, and that this was a situation that existed from the first day of the marriage. The intensity of the entity softened, the female said, "Oh, the old family problem", and then went away. Around nine in the morning my X called to tell me that her grandmother had passed away during the night.
A number of years later a very maculine entity interrupted my dream while trying to inflict pain, asking, "Why did you divorce my little girl!" I replyed as before. The entity immediately softened, chuckled even, and said, "Oh, just like her mother". The entity faded away. About ten that morning my X called to tell me that her father passed away during the night.
I have other such experiences. The Spirit World is real. Get used to the idea.

I believe the question you have a desire to ask is,"If I die does it matter?"

If that is the question you are seeking an answer to, I will say this; "If you die what mattered to you?"

You see now that you are alive in what you perceive as life you have no choice but to die. If in the end that you see forth coming no more than two things will happen; one you will absolutely cease to exist and then two you will continue to exist. That's it. Nothing more that's it.

Or are you somehow convinced that you will still exist but by different rules?

Originally posted by thisisnotaname
Is there a world your poop lives in after it's flushed? What happens in that world? Does the poop become something good? Or does the poop stay bad and smelly forever?

edit on 13-3-2011 by thisisnotaname because: (no reason given)

Dont be silly!! Poop definitely goes to either of the three Abrahamic religion's "heaven" in the afterlife!! That is precisely what you will find in the "paradise" of either of the "big-three" cults.

And the poop that will be there will STILL STINK just as the HUGE majority of its followers do here and now.

With the ways of some of these cult followers act here and now in THIS life, I sure am glad that I will not be a member of their stinky sewer paradise!!!


Cant polish a turd or take its stink away. The same applies to certain groups of folks...

reply to post by Jonas86


This is one of those "good news / bad news" deals. For many people, their perception of the moments after death include a kind of envelope for the essence, spirit or soul. They go -- often immediately, but occasionally -- after a very long period of "nothingness," towards the version of post death reality they identify with most strongly. For the rest, well -- they expect nothing, so they usually end up getting a whole lot of it.

The universe is filled with positive and negative energies, and what we call "death" is simply one side of the experience. Those responsible for much of the religion on earth-like planets exist to convince you that "this is all there is," and that the only thing waiting for you after death is "oneness" with the unity of experience, or dissolution. The truth is a little more prosaic: There are about a billion billion different ways a formerly living being can experience the anti-life, but most of those doors are cut off from the newly dead, because they have no roadmap, no guide, and no perspective big enough to encompass the totality of existence. This makes most of us "food" for a host of really negative experiences out beyond the wall of sleep.

The bad news is that your afterlife -- such as it is -- is largely determined by your expectations and experience. If you expect to meet Jesus, and face the fathers judgement -- you will. Try to make sure you use the "public defender" option when you get a chance, because he / it is the only thing pure enough to pass muster, and it will literally stand in judgement in your place if you put away the ego long enough to "ask it to."

For some? The universe is literally up for grabs, and there are no limits as to what you can experience when freed from the shackles of a 3 dimensional body locked in space / time. Do you think you have a better system? Go hang your own sheet on the line and try your hand at creating a new kind of universe.

Just don't look down.

reply to post by gazzachel


Do you think that all the people born today actually possess souls? Do you think they are all "from" "around here?"

There are billions of galaxies in the universe, and each has billions of planets. Better still -- there are probably billions of universes hanging on the line, waiting to "bang" into one another and start the provess all over again. Your body glut is somewhere else's "soul surplus," and vice versus us.

reply to post by meathed


Meathead,
I know how you know....Have you found out more about that?

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I have read everyone's post...The debate is interesting.Thou I know there is a form of existence after this life.
I'm not sure it is something that everyone ascends to.There maybe different plans for different people..