Life After Death, Does It Exist?

Some would say it's important to do everything all the time and not sleep because there's enough time for sleeping when you're dead. But I don't know, IF there's is nothing after death, you can't feel sleeping... and sleeping is a great pleasure, it sometims makes incredible realities come to you and feel true.

Of course there is life after death.

The body is just a shell, and after it suffers physical death your conciousness departs the body and lives on. I have no doubt that 'the dead' can access extra dimensions which are hidden from us (I suspect that time as such does not actually exist once you have left the physical world.)

Originally posted by gazzachel
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reincarnation has never been proven and also the birth rate is higher than the death rate so how can we all be reincarnated if thats the case?

If the birth rate is high than the death rate than there is plenty of space for everyone to get reincarnated.

Anyway, this argument assumes a closed system.

Originally posted by gazzachel
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reincarnation has never been proven and also the birth rate is higher than the death rate so how can we all be reincarnated if thats the case?

In addition to the above post, it also assumes that there are a limited number of souls, and no other planets in the universe which harbor life. Even if it is limited to lets say 200 bizillion, what if a planet with life find a black hole? Those souls gotta go somewhere.

Well I have my own proof of life after death and I believe the common NDE to be the most accurate portrayal.
In short, we float up, look back at ourselves, travel through a tunnel (this part optional but people who stay become earth-bound spirits/ghosts), meet our maker, undergo a life review where you are the judge, then have a rest to ponder, re-affirm and plan your next step.

But one could argue that brain activity continues for 37 minutes after death, possibly longer just undetected. Now if you consider the reality of dreams, how people can experience a 2 hour dream in the space of 2 minutes. Now consider the fact your brain has nothing else to power except a dream environment. All it would really need is one second to give you an almost everlasting dream. Now put that in your pipe and smoke it! I don't believe that to be true I'm just putting it out there.

of course thier is life after death* how does anyone explain then, coversations with ouija boards? poltergeists have been known to have a consious and mind as well..telling the people they haunted, who they were, they knew they were dead, but were afraid of heaven. the bell witch is a simialr case, and so is the enfield poltergeist.

Yes, Of course it does.

Originally posted by ziggy1706
of course thier is life after death* how does anyone explain then, coversations with ouija boards? poltergeists have been known to have a consious and mind as well..telling the people they haunted, who they were, they knew they were dead, but were afraid of heaven. the bell witch is a simialr case, and so is the enfield poltergeist.

Agreed but "The Phillip Experiment" suggests, humans can play a much bigger rule over how poltergeist activity Is orchestrated than they would think they could.

Originally posted by meathed
Yes, Of course it does.

This is why I like this forum. It's pretty much the collective reply to the question.

Well, good thing is if it doesn't exist, we won't be there to know it.

maybe the only way we will ever know for sure is when we die

One thing is weird; why would people lie about the NDE? It's not the same as lying about UFO's.

It's pretty much a proven reality.

Originally posted by Jonas86
One thing is weird; why would people lie about the NDE? It's not the same as lying about UFO's.

It's pretty much a proven reality.

True.

When take the massive amount of information it is naive to assume it is all lies and delusions.

Originally posted by BrianDamage
I was a total skeptic when it came to life after death etc, but a little while ago I was reading a book where they were discussing something called micro tubals, these micro tubals are situated in the brain, somewhere near the part where the brain meets the spinal cord.(I think, i'm going off memory here).
Inside the micro tubals is a small bundle of quantum material.
Some scientists believe that this bundle of quantum material is us, that the bundle is what controls the brain, sort of like if the brain was a pc, then the bundle would be the operator.
Now, this is where it gets interesting, once quantum material is created, it cannot be destroyed.
If the bundle is "us", or as some call it , the soul, then it must go on after the body has died.
Theoretically, the bundle of quatum material could have the abillity to float in and out of the micro tubals, if the person knew how to achieve it. Could this be what shamanism is? could i also account for out of body experiences?
What if someone couldn't deal with the fact of their body death and the quantum material hung about, could this explain hauntings?
Could the quatum material have the power to float into a living person's micro tubals?
If so, could this explain possession? Multiple personality disorders?
Anyway, it certainly made me think.

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i like briandamages theory

Originally posted by Jonas86

Originally posted by meathed
Yes, Of course it does.

This is why I like this forum.

It's pretty much the collective reply to the question.

Well, good thing is if it doesn't exist, we won't be there to know it.

edit on 16-3-2011 by Jonas86 because: (no reason given)

It does exist. How I know , I cant tell you yet. And if i did you wouldnt believe me anyway.
But it does.
Peace.
Meathed.

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I say answer this simple question, do you believe in this life? If the answer is yes, then be most assured that life can and does exist. If this life is to exist, then that reasons to believe that life exist in other lives. I know, but follow the logic. People that say that they don't believe in life after death are fools. That's the best that I can come up with to explain them. This life that we live now is miraculous to say the least. So if this miracle is happening, why would one not believe that anything is possible, that this one life then that's it. Just doesn't pass the common sense. To the non believers, all you have to do is open your eyes and look around, this universe we live in boggles the mind. But again, our minds are not capable of comprehending anyways. We are bent on destruction. That's how idiotic of a people we are. We are not meant to understand it all. When one dies, then they will understand, not before that.

Originally posted by snowspirit

Originally posted by Jonas86
Contrary to this I've heard from a relative who was technically dead for 2 minutes he saw absolutely nothing, only "blackness."

I almost more disbelieving about people who say they "saw blackness". Are they still that aware that all is "blackness", or did they just wake up without any memory of seeing something.

When we fall asleep, we don't see blackness between dreams that we're aware of, or if we go under anesthesia in a hospital, there is no blackness. We just go to sleep, then wake up, without any awareness of anything in between.

Well I never died, but I did that stupid California headrush thingy... Was out for like 45 seconds to a minute.. Had the death trip, then all the color faded from existence and I was just floating in oblivion I guess. I still perceived, but I perceived nothingness. No sound, no taste, no touch, no sight, no emotions, no thoughts.

The only thing equivalent to the experience would be if a person drugged themselves up(zombified) to the point they weren't thinking + painkillers to the point you couldn't feel anything, then add in some kind of chamber that blocked out sound and everything else. Then after the fact you would have to remove from your memories the whole breathing thing and bingo oblivion.

It wasn't like being knocked out. I have been hit in the head before and you have a quick blip of blackness, even dropped a 70 odd lb log on my lower back and as soon as it connected a quick blip and I was on the ground.

The flow of time feels different between the two. When I was in a state of nothingness, it felt ageless. I didn't feel the gnawing of time, but it just felt like I been there a long, long, long time. I can honestly say it feels like the experience aged me. It also felt like I was moving forward ever so slightly. In hindsight I think it is some kind of barrier.

As for the blip, it felt limited. Like less time went by then actually did.

Originally posted by Jezus

Originally posted by Jonas86
One thing is weird; why would people lie about the NDE? It's not the same as lying about UFO's.

It's pretty much a proven reality.

True.

When take the massive amount of information it is naive to assume it is all lies and delusions.

There is a chance that NDE could be more related to a naturally occurring chemical in the brain called Dimethyltryptamine ('___').
The same could apply to dreams.
Just thought I'd throw that into the mix.

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I almost more disbelieving about people who say they "saw blackness". Are they still that aware that all is "blackness", or did they just wake up without any memory of seeing something.

Yeah, me too, snowspirit. I just don't see it. I think they do not remember what they saw, like you said. I have seen many people who were alive, and are now "dead," and that, coupled with my own NDE, completely convinces me, no matter what some say about it. I saw the "Light," questioned it, and saw relatives, some I knew, telling me to go back.

New user here--

I have always found the idea of life after death very reassuring. I feel this exists because my Grandmother told me when she was in the hospital because of a heart attack she saw a white light that she said was beautiful, and God told her "Doloras, it isn't your time yet. Your husband will not be able to take care of your children by himself. Your time will come eventually."

My Grandmother said that she was pronounced dead for around 2-3 minutes. She also had 5 kids at the time, eventually having 9 kids. She is also Catholic.

Even though we never know what is going to happen to us when our time comes, this story always warms my heart.