William Rodriguez is a Fraud

reply to post by Yankee451


Thank you for your response. The plane was "lucky" to strike where it was wanted so I still suggest remote control of a smaller plane than a 767, if not a missile, whichever is easier to guide to the exact spot. I also suggest that the controls for remote control that day were in Bldg #7, and had to be destroyed, along with other very incriminating eveidence, files etc.

I’ve been listening to this absurd drivel about 9/11 actors for some time now and I still can’t figure out one thing: When, exactly, did these actors rehearse? And what? They got their script delivered by Mr. Spock through a Vulcan Mind Meld and began immediately telling the same stories that thousands of other actors told at various locations and times after 9/11? The news crews that interviewed them at the periphery were planted in anticipation of their dusty arrival? (OK, OK. I admit the Harley guy appears to be one of these. However, are you allowing one bad apple to infect the rest?) Who is the director of this movie anyway?

Can you see how utterly ridiculous this is?

You folks don’t want to admit that 9/11 happened. Yeah it's monstrous. PURE EVIL. It is too painful facing the fact that your fellow humans would murder your brothers and sisters. Or that your own brothers and sisters would murder somebody else’s. So you go off 180 degrees and start saying that those who survived 9/11 belong to a well-coordinated pack of liars.

In America, the accuser has the burden of proof. Get busy proving your case or help your lead prosecutor prove his case. Put together a well-written presentation using logic and fact. Show some exhibits, produce some documentation, gather your witnesses and put them under oath. UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY!!

Once you do all of that you may be qualified to stand in front of a jury of your peers and state your case. Anything less is just an unruly mob intent on a Saturday night lynching. Some of you have the rope up in the tree already.

PLEASE! Take a moment. Step back and look at yourselves.

In America, believe it or not, one astute arbiter, with a rare skill called discernment, can hang a jury and restore liberty to one falsely accused. If you were the one being falsely accused, you’d be praying somebody would have the guebos to speak up.

reply to post by uncommonsense

I’ve been listening to this absurd drivel about 9/11 actors for some time now and I still can’t figure out one thing: When, exactly, did these actors rehearse?

I don't think that's the only thing you still can't figure out.

And what? They got their script delivered by Mr. Spock through a Vulcan Mind Meld and began immediately telling the same stories that thousands of other actors told at various locations and times after 9/11?

Space science fiction reference, nice touch junior. This should be fun.

The news crews that interviewed them at the periphery were planted in anticipation of their dusty arrival?

Wow, there is a brain in there, but you were being sarcastic, weren't you? Once in a while a real person would be interviewed, but no one wanted to talk to them because they weren't part of the script:

current.com...

Who is the director of this movie anyway?

James Hanlon, Jules and Gedeon Naudet? Evan Fairbanks had a short film he directed. Wolfgang Staehl, Tina Cart, Robert Clark? Just spit balling here.

Can you see how utterly ridiculous this is?

No. I see how ridiculous you are, and I see how ridiculous the official story is, but I'm missing the utterly part.

You folks don’t want to admit that 9/11 happened.

Huh?

Yeah it's monstrous. PURE EVIL. It is too painful facing the fact that your fellow humans would murder your brothers and sisters. Or that your own brothers and sisters would murder somebody else’s.

Are you speaking for me or for you? Because we're still murdering "brothers and sisters" based on the PURE EVIL perpetrated by the 911 criminals and I'm trying to help stop them. I can only speak for myself, but I don't see how sitting on my ass and letting them get away with murder is how you stop PURE EVIL. If my family member had been killed, I'd want to make damn sure the murderer was caught and I'd want to make damn sure their death wasn't used as some sick justification to kill hundreds of thousands of brown people. Talk about PURE EVIL.

So you go off 180 degrees and start saying that those who survived 9/11 belong to a well-coordinated pack of liars.

Is everything black and white with you? Do you have issues with the gray area as well as the gray matter? No; some who survived are liars. The ones who said they saw planes for sure.

In America, the accuser has the burden of proof. Get busy proving your case or help your lead prosecutor prove his case. Put together a well-written presentation using logic and fact. Show some exhibits, produce some documentation, gather your witnesses and put them under oath. UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY!!

The DRAMA...whoo... the crowd is on its feet. And leaving. WTF are you talking about now? Who did we accuse of killing 3K Americans? Remember, we invaded two nations and are currently involved in UAV wars on the wedding parties and funerals of a third. How about you show me the proof used to justify the murder of a few hundred thousand people? Produce some exhibits instead of excuses, documentation instead of drivel, gather your witnesses instead of your whines...show me why you think we're justified in the continued killing of people completely innocent of 911. Then tell me how finding the real killers is PURE EVIL.

Once you do all of that you may be qualified to stand in front of a jury of your peers and state your case. Anything less is just an unruly mob intent on a Saturday night lynching. Some of you have the rope up in the tree already.

WTF? Lynching? Prozac anyone?

PLEASE! Take a moment. Step back and look at yourselves.

Irony.

Who's "yourselves" anyway? Do you see double? How many fingers am I holding up?

In America, believe it or not, one astute arbiter, with a rare skill called discernment, can hang a jury and restore liberty to one falsely accused. If you were the one being falsely accused, you’d be praying somebody would have the guebos to speak up.

Get over yourself...you're obviously not that arbiter, much less astute...but you are rare, I hope anyway. Who's falsely accused? Are we talking about Willie being a lying sack of #e, or what?

reply to post by canadiansenior70


It's been a while, but check this thread:

Missiles

reply to post by Yankee451


Wow, that's great stuff. Too bad all those people saw the planes hit the buildings. Oh well, that kind of knocks out the "missile" theory. Anything else?

reply to post by Yankee451


You sir, are either disinfo or completely making things up. At any time over 30,000 people were in the towers.

What in the world are you on about? May I ask if you have ever been to the towers personally? I have. Many times. They were cities within the city.


CJ

reply to post by hooper

Wow, that's great stuff. Too bad all those people saw the planes hit the buildings. Oh well, that kind of knocks out the "missile" theory. Anything else?

Other than your fake sister, name one.

How about you telling me what about that "great stuff" was incorrect...was it the close ups of the damage? Was it the cross section of the exterior column? If you disagree with my analysis please feel free to tell me where it was wrong, but spare me your usual nonsense..

I'm not holding my breath for your in-depth analysis; I see from your post you haven't progressed much since last we chatted.

How I missed you...it was you who inspired my signature.

reply to post by ColoradoJens

You sir, are either disinfo or completely making things up.

Wrong on both counts. I'm betting it won't be the last time.

At any time over 30,000 people were in the towers.

How about on Feb 26 1993? Don't just guess, check the occupancy list:
FOIA WTC Occupancy List

What in the world are you on about?

Massive Fraud.

May I ask if you have ever been to the towers personally?

No, you may not.

I have. Many times. They were cities within the city.

How nice for you. Here's your chance to show us the pictures you took when you visited all 110 floors each.

reply to post by Yankee451

If you disagree with my analysis please feel free to tell me where it was wrong....

People saw the planes hit the buildings. That's where its wrong. Don't need a lot of "analysis" on that one.

reply to post by hooper


People saw CGI cartoon planes on video. Anyone who claims they saw a plane in person is lying. Like you did about your sister.

Originally posted by Yankee451
reply to post by cayrichard

 

Its a long read...

But essentially it appears he made impossible claims of his own prowess, time frame and timing, and he makes conflicting reports throughout a transparently contrived story...from the article:

1. How it is that you cleaned the stairwells of t least 1, maybe (2) 100 story buildings each day, yet when these building fell, there was 16 miles of missing staircases. Where did those 16 miles of staircases go Willie?

2. Where are the 16 miles of staircase that you cleaned on a daily basis Willy? They are totally and completely absent from the debris pile. "Where did those 16 miles of missing staircases go to Willy? And why aren't those 16 miles of missing staircases at the world trade center part of your international crusade?

3. How is it that performed at bare minimum 97 minutes of miracles in only 17 minutes? From 8:46 a, till 9:03 am, the world wants an answer Willie Rodriguez, Mr. Last man out of the world trade center with nice white teeth not stained from tetracycline.

4. Whats your relationship again to James Randi, MASS Illusions and magic?

5. Where is a single piece of footage of any of your alleged claims on 9/11? To being pulled from under the fire truck, to everything else? There isn't a single credible reason you can give why there is no footage of you being pulled from the fire truck. News wires and reporters at that time would have descended the scene like seagulls in a McDonalds parking lot.

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I am not even going to read the whole thing simply because this really discredits itself in the first few questions.

First of all, Willy's story is verified by other people. Namely firefighters and people he helped get out of the building. Some of these other people have not made a dime off telling their stories, so what would they have to gain by helping Willy keep a lie going?

Let us now get onto these questions...

Starting with the staircase.... how is it even remotely possible that he would know? Did Willy bring the towers down? Does he know what caused it to collapse? Does he know why the staircase was not found in the rubble?

Onto question 3...Why are his teeth not stained? Really?? I have seen a lot of footage and people covered in dust as they walked away from the WTC complex that day.... do ANY of them have stained teeth? Or is it that their teeth are white especially when the rest of them are covered in dust?

Question 4. So now this is a magic trick? Let me guess, no planes, no victims, and even the buildings did not exist? It was ALL one big magic trick and Willy forgot how to bring the buildings back? Sorry but this is just what I call nit picking. How does knowing a magician help Willy at all even if he is lying? Answer: It doesn't.

Question 5 is just stupid. Maybe there is no footage of him being pulled out from under the firetruck because all the reporters turned and ran the hell away from the buildings and the parked firetrucks when the buildings fell. Was Willy supposed to stay under that firetruck until the media came back just to be sure there was a picture or two?

Really love to see this guy type to himself...
Willy a fake? Really?...
No planes, none? Missiles?...REALLY?

You make us all that seek the real story look like retarded crackpots, please stop doing that.

Originally posted by Yankee451
reply to post by hooper

 

People saw CGI cartoon planes on video. Anyone who claims they saw a plane in person is lying. Like you did about your sister.

You are wrong and even making this assumption really shows your lack of critical thinking skills.

Too many people saw the planes. People who were not close to each others locations, people who did not know each other, people who have nothing to gain by lying, yet you want us to believe that they all conspired with one another to get their story straight? Your assumption is even more ridiculous than your half baked TV fakery theory.

Yankee with all due respect.. YOU are the type of person in the truth movement that I simply can not stand. YOU are the type of person in the truth movement who help to make a case for why all truth seekers are nut cases. I have said this a million times, and apparently I am going to say it again. The goal of the 9/11 truth movement was always to push for an independent, complete investigation. There are more than enough questions that can be asked in order to make a case for why such an investigation is needed that there is no need to continue to come up with theory after theory after theory. If you have a theory, then there is really no need for an investigation now is there?

Originally posted by Juanxlink
Really love to see this guy type to himself...
Willy a fake? Really?...
No planes, none? Missiles?...REALLY?

You make us all that seek the real story look like retarded crackpots, please stop doing that.

You make yourself into a retarded crackpot by pretending kerosene can wipe out three skyscrapers and the whole WTC complex.

Don't blame me if your tender belief system prevents you from pulling your head out far enough to see simple facts that clearly contradict the mainstream story.

reply to post by MrWendal

I am not even going to read the whole thing simply because this really discredits itself in the first few questions.

Fair enough. I stopped reading your drivel after the above sentence.

Originally posted by Yankee451
reply to post by MrWendal

 

I am not even going to read the whole thing simply because this really discredits itself in the first few questions.

Fair enough. I stopped reading your drivel after the above sentence.

I would expect nothing less from a fool. At least do me the same courtesy I gave to you. Discredit me based on what I present, not based on the fact that I disagree. I was at least able to show WHY I stopped reading and what it is I disagreed with, only a fool would be unable to do so. So what is it again you disagreed with that I said?

reply to post by MrWendal

I would expect nothing less from a fool. At least do me the same courtesy I gave to you. Discredit me based on what I present, not based on the fact that I disagree. I was at least able to show WHY I stopped reading and what it is I disagreed with, only a fool would be unable to do so. So what is it again you disagreed with that I said?

Dear me, does your hypocrisy know no bounds? Treat me and my posts with respect and we can discuss this all day long, but when you begin your text with "I am not even going to read the whole thing", we don't really have anything to discuss, do we?

reply to post by Yankee451


You just (a few post ago) called someone retarded and you want to talk to me about respect? Someone's hypocrisy is shining through and it is not mine.

Originally posted by MrWendal
reply to post by Yankee451

 

You just (a few post ago) called someone retarded and you want to talk to me about respect? Someone's hypocrisy is shining through and it is not mine.

Again, treat me with respect and I respond in kind, but come out slinging mud and you can expect me to reciprocate. Folks here who have read my posts know this about me; that and I also admit it when I'm wrong, a rare thing on ATS, and something my posts can prove handily.

Now, I'm very happy to discuss this with you as an adult, but you'll have to do your best to act like one. I have spent a lot of time researching and sourcing this information. It is not fabricated and it is a solid analysis of the damage caused by missiles. If you've already made up your mind and can tell which information doesn't deserve your scrutiny, then you're not doing anyone any favors except the government's approved conspiracy theory, as espoused by 90 percent of the ironically named "truth movement".