What the Bible teaches about homosexuality.

reply to post by Ryanssuperman
IF, GOD gave Man the choise between good and evil, and "let he who hath no sin, cast the first stone", who am I to judge anothers decision to chose for themselves. Unless "I" am without sin ofcourse.

reply to post by Akragon


I dont just feel it I witnessed it. Demons are very much real and they can be in other people. I had no idea it was but let me tell you that the spirit looks exactly like what you seen in 14th century artwork. Your spirit literally becomes what it is. The judgment is perfect. Im talking about the design of the Most High down to a singular molecule. Its exact posistion is as one.

I know this because I the experience was mental but physical as well because these spirits are not happy when you realize this truth. The matrix almost of God.

Originally posted by EnigmaticDill
reply to post by Akragon

 

I dont just feel it I witnessed it. Demons are very much real and they can be in other people. I had no idea it was but let me tell you that the spirit looks exactly like what you seen in 14th century artwork. Your spirit literally becomes what it is. The judgment is perfect. Im talking about the design of the Most High down to a singular molecule. Its exact posistion is as one.

I know this because I the experience was mental but physical as well because these spirits are not happy when you realize this truth. The matrix almost of God.

Thats all well and good, but if you're seeing demons then there is something missing. Myself, i could go to the most haunted or possessed place on earth, and no demon would dare come near me. Why, because i know the love and light of God.

And yet again as i've said before, if you say you know everything about the grand design or God in general, you are fooling yourself.

Originally posted by boney
reply to post by Ryanssuperman

 

IF, GOD gave Man the choise between good and evil, and "let he who hath no sin, cast the first stone", who am I to judge anothers decision to chose for themselves. Unless "I" am without sin ofcourse.

"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"

"Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

How are we to know the "good trees" from the "evil trees" unless we judge their "fruits"???????????????

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by boney
reply to post by Ryanssuperman

 

IF, GOD gave Man the choise between good and evil, and "let he who hath no sin, cast the first stone", who am I to judge anothers decision to chose for themselves. Unless "I" am without sin ofcourse.

"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"

"Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

How are we to know the "good trees" from the "evil trees" unless we judge their "fruits"???????????????

You don't judge their fruits, you take them as they are and understand from their works.....Its not your place to judge....

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by boney
reply to post by Ryanssuperman

 

IF, GOD gave Man the choise between good and evil, and "let he who hath no sin, cast the first stone", who am I to judge anothers decision to chose for themselves. Unless "I" am without sin ofcourse.

"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"

"Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

How are we to know the "good trees" from the "evil trees" unless we judge their "fruits"???????????????

But... didn't you guys just say it's wrong to look at another man's fruit? B

But, seriously, I've always thought of "fruit" as contribution. Hate and judgement does not contribute. Love does. Love and good naturedness are the fruit by which I judge.

reply to post by Akragon


No but the unbelievable part is that it was what was always there it is what manifests this phyiscal.

Its familiar to you because you know it on some level you choose to ignore. The lie that is sin. The greatest trick the devil ever played is to think he didnt exist. If only you know. I would give me life for someone else to know it.

reply to post by ArchIlluminatus


Who cares.
It's also against having sex with girls on their period.
Grow up.

If I call correctly, did the lord not say something along the lines of let the men without god judge man for I will be the judge of every man. Follow me and my commandments, or something like that.
I swear I heard that while growing up in a catholic school.
I don't get it, if god is going to be the judge why is he telling people to put people to death, personally I think that would be the words of Satan. Which rule do we follow the 10 commandment rule... Thou shalt not kill... ORRRR do we do the evil thing and... kill someone because they are who they are (not even harming people, at that.)
Sorry, but I have just never been in for the whole fill in the gaps with interpretation game that Christianity... I'd rather take advice from a rubix cube.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"

"Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

How are we to know the "good trees" from the "evil trees" unless we judge their "fruits"???????????????

The message is you do not gather fruit from places that cause pain, thorns and thistles. The only thing that grows on thorns and thistles is pain and bloodshed. Have you ever walked through thorns or thistles?

Figs come from a tree that brings no discomfort in the gathering of its fruit, and grapes come from the vine which is easily accessible. The grapes yield wine, which is joy. The figs yield sustenance, fullness of spirit.

If your doctrine brings the fruit of pain and bloodshed, then you are harvesting from the wrong tree.

With Love,

Your Brother

Originally posted by EnigmaticDill
reply to post by MrXYZ

 

Your a fool to think that you have no idea. You think I was raised Christian the closest I got to a Bible was maybe my mother reading it at night or my grandmother telling I'd be sorry for not believing.

I don't care what religion you belong to, they're all the same to me. What I do care about is the fact that you're not backing up any of your claims with objective evidence...and then judge something like homosexuality based on that.

If you believed in the mighty spaghetti monster I'd still ask for objective evidence.

reply to post by Akragon

You don't judge their fruits, you take them as they are and understand from their works.....Its not your place to judge....

That's not what the Lord says in these two passages, in fact He first says "Beware!", to make sure we are safe from the wolves in sheep's clothing. To judge their fruit is the only way to know if they are a wolf or a sheep.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by ArchIlluminatus

 

Who cares.
It's also against having sex with girls on their period.
Grow up.

Or that shellfish is an abomination

I like shellfish

reply to post by MrXYZ


The flying spagetti monster is not the living god. There is only one god in which the word became flesh.

Originally posted by EnigmaticDill
reply to post by Akragon

 

No but the unbelievable part is that it was what was always there it is what manifests this phyiscal.

Its familiar to you because you know it on some level you choose to ignore. The lie that is sin. The greatest trick the devil ever played is to think he didnt exist. If only you know. I would give me life for someone else to know it.

Let me explain my take on the devil my friend. Once again, considering the FACT...that the bible was written by man....thousands of years ago....they're understanding of God and the entities who serve God are from different point of view...

Consider the Idea of the "great war in heaven" ....Do you honestly believe that Lucifer tried to overthrow God...are you really so nieve.....it would be like your lego man trying to take over your house. Angels have no power over God, they serve him....They would be far more intelligent then any human could possibly aspire to, so why would they be so stupid as to attempt to disagree with the one who made them and everything else in creation.... its ludicris!!

Lucifer is the opposer, the one who makes our lives stressful by tempting us away from God, but he by no means is against God....Are you kidding....does this make any sence to you? The "devil" is Gods ally, and man kind's teacher....His job is to keep you away from God, to seperate those who understand from those who refuse to learn....

Lucifer has a bad rep, but hes not against God.....Personally i don't believe for a second there was a war in heaven, just another story from another man.

What I witnessed was the war that you speak of.

Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"

"Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

How are we to know the "good trees" from the "evil trees" unless we judge their "fruits"???????????????

The message is you do not gather fruit from places that cause pain, thorns and thistles. The only thing that grows on thorns and thistles is pain and bloodshed. Have you ever walked through thorns or thistles?

Figs come from a tree that brings no discomfort in the gathering of its fruit, and grapes come from the vine which is easily accessible. The grapes yield wine, which is joy. The figs yield sustenance, fullness of spirit.

If your doctrine brings the fruit of pain and bloodshed, then you are harvesting from the wrong tree.

With Love,

Your Brother

Sorry, that has nothing to do with what Jesus is warning us about. Back up to His "beware!" comment.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Akragon

 

You don't judge their fruits, you take them as they are and understand from their works.....Its not your place to judge....

That's not what the Lord says in these two passages, in fact He first says "Beware!", to make sure we are safe from the wolves in sheep's clothing. To judge their fruit is the only way to know if they are a wolf or a sheep.

Again it is not your place to judge any man...In your heart you know whats wrong and whats right, you call a murderer a criminal but how do you know the reasons behind his deed. It might have been just in his eyes, and no one could tell him other wise. You take people as they are with all their faults, and leave the jugdgements for the judge.....And you are not the judge...

reply to post by Akragon

Do you honestly believe that Lucifer tried to overthrow God?

Not at all, why would anyone believe that? The Bible doesn't say that happened. It says sin was found in Lucifer when he desired to be worshiped.

Originally posted by EnigmaticDill
What I witnessed was the war that you speak of.

i can't argue with that, i don't know what you saw... are you psychic or have visions? Considering when this war supposidly happened...thats hard to believe...but who am i to call you a liar?