Jared Loughner the alleged Tucson shooter - So many questions - so few answers .

As far as the shadows on the JLL picture follow his arm shadow down into where the end of the sign he's holding turns black to ....................... the rest of his shadow. notice the colors on the white lettering. Not all the same because of a shadow.

The woman nothing strange her arms shadow is being covered by the shadow of the bag around her shoulder and behind her arm. She is holding the what I believe is chalk or a marker more than likely. (would make sense since shes doing a giant CW puzzle). I mean look at the shadow its rectangular like and has a flat bottom like a bag, also you can see the bag behind her arm so .........

The cops laughing yeah that's unprofessional but do you really think they care. Ever been arrested or had to deal with cops in a grand scale? I have and the majority of the ones I know would laugh in any situation.... Theyr'e probably back there having a conversation like this. Cop 1 " Damn they got him I was hoping to kill someone today. Cop 2 " do'nt worry Frank, day aint over yet...LOL". Sick but I've heard/ had worse said to me by cops so .......

And as far as the picture of the K9 cop .........................................What am I looking at exactly. I mean Yeh hes short, but Perhaps thats why he is the in the k9 unit. Lack of physical power height. blah blah blah. I mean a 5 foot tall cop is not going to scare most. However give him a # all huge German Shepherd and I start to shiver a little.. Also what part of his arm is missing exaclty?


Now don't get me wrong I am extremely interested in this case and believe it stinks to high Heaven. I also believe that sadly this topic is being overlooked by the majority of this Forum and many others. However maybe the ones who investigating are a little over zealous and "scaring (unintentionally) some folks away.


I mean hell one of the main reasons I signed on here was to research 9/11 and Its so hectic and just mean in there forum section that I hardly even think about 9/11 anymore. Let alone try top find any info on here.

I mean just because you think something is a conspiracy doesn't mean everything about it that doesn't fit is part of it.

I think we can safely say that there are many unanswered questions and unusual things surrounding this 'event.' Some aspect, if not all of it, has clearly been tampered with. Shorty may not be shorty after all, but that's not the point. The question for me is why tamper at all? Why photoshop? Couldn't they come up with a photo of a real guy and make it look like a real mug shot? Why photoshop a parking lot? If it's fake, why not film it in real time somewhere on a Hollywood set so that you don't risk inconsistencies? Why the crazy interview with the woman who accompanied the little girl? I could go on, but I'm sure you see my point.

Is it possible that these inconsistencies were deliberately left as clues and are not the result of sloppiness. We all assume here that only the PTB have the ability to pull off such a hoax. If their power is on the wane, as some suggest, could it be that a person or persons of a more benevolent and humorous nature are behind this hoax. To clarify, I do not believe ANYone was harmed by this event and that it was entirely a Hollywood creation.

Sounds impossible, I know. But if you view events through that perspective, it all makes sense. What's that they say about the simplest explanation?

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Hi there thanks for your comment .
Please remember none of us claim to know exactly what happened . Until they release the evidence(if they ever do )
all we're doing is speculating with the info /evidence we have .

The reason I'm posting these photos because a few of us have suspicions that Loughner was framed . We are sifting through evidence to see if there are any suggestions of foul play .
Ie additional tampered photos other than the 1st "mugshot".

Out of all the photos my only observation was the cop smiling the others are from a different forum .

Like I said in my op this thread is to accumulate any concerns we have with the case .
Feel free to share yours , I'm only trying to share mine and others .

Peace

Originally posted by Doomzilla
Note the drugged sign ?

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Dear Doomzilla,

While I have an utter appreciation for the absurd and enjoy fantastic conspiracy theories, I think you might want to return your Jr. CSI module back to the shop for a firmware update. Sorry but most of your theories thus far are simply absurd. I don't have time to analyze / debunk each since the other members are doing a fine job. But here is a little hint. RUGGED is a line of Brand name stretchers (by Stryker) that EMT's use:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/29f209500a36.jpg[/atsimg]

www.alibaba.com...

Good Grief Barney Fife, do some research.

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good spot , I made a mistake I apologise !

Care to help the investigation or are you just here to criticise .

Care to talk about ANYTHING to do with the case or are you here to just criticise ?

Like I said before these are not MY observations ! My observation was about the smiling cop .

If you want to criticise the people with these ideas go here .
www.cluesforum.info...

I hope you have fun but please stay out of my face I don't appreciate your tone whatsoever .

Originally posted by Doomzilla
Care to help the investigation or are you just here to criticise .

I'll leave the "investigation" to the experts. IMO there is nothing to "investigate."

BTW, I did say 'Sorry' in my post. That is about as apologetic as I can get considering some of the theories you've postulated. I'm not interested in pursuing your 'source' for this nonsense.

As long a I contribute within T&C, I'll post my opinion as I please thank you. I call 'em as I see 'em.

ETA: Regarding the 'smiling cop' People do odd things in traumatic and stressful situations. It is a human 'release mechanism' for duress. I've laughed along with my friends at a mutual friend's funeral. Not about him but about a situation. The picture captured a random 'snapshot' in time. Logic, what a concept.

Regards...kk

Originally posted by kinda kurious
reply to post by Doomzilla

 

By in large I share you skepticism in many facets of the case. By the way, I neglected to applaud you for this thread. Nice job! It takes jewels to make a case and defend your premise. Thanks for at least striving to find some common ground wth others who may not wholeheartedly agree.

edit on 24-2-2011 by kinda kurious because: (no reason given)

hmm.
you had a bigger personality change than Jared judging by the above !

Originally posted by kinda kurious

Originally posted by Doomzilla
Care to help the investigation or are you just here to criticise .

I'll leave the "investigation" to the experts. IMO there is nothing to "investigate."

BTW, I did say 'Sorry' in my post. That is about as apologetic as I can get considering some of the theories you've postulated. I'm not interested in pursuing your 'source' for this nonsense.

As long a I contribute within T&C, I'll post my opinion as I please thank you. I call 'em as I see 'em.

Regards...kk

Like I tell all who try to attack investigators - If I'm wrong then I have nothing to lose but if I'm right we certainly do .

There is no harm in questioning the government , there is much harm in blindly following authority .

Until they release compelling evidence that proves beyond doubt Loughner is guilty I will continue my research .
I can do it alone or with help but thats not my decision .

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That was CLEARLY before the ensuing far-fetched wild theories were introduced but I'll applaud you nonetheless despite comparing me to someone who is obviously mentally ill.

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Fair enough. Truce and I'll make you a deal. Rather than just infer things like "Drugged?" howz about you add your theory and I'll refrain from firm consternation.

Dealio?

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Cmon, I want to know what YOU think of this case .
Its easy to attack others who get their opinions out in the open , lets hear your theory .

Right now we have ZERO proof of anything so theres no harm in speculating .

Over to you .

Originally posted by kinda kurious
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Fair enough. Truce and I'll make you a deal. Rather than just infer things like "Drugged?" howz about you add your theory and I'll refrain from firm consternation.

Dealio?

You should know my theory by now .
I think its a possibility Loughner was framed , I'm not convinced by his alleged internet activity it may have been planted in advance to "back up " the official story .
I don't believe he knew Giffords would be at the event as it was not advertised til 24 hrs beforehand.
I feel it may be the case that they ll never release any evidence that we can verify which in turn could be a sign of things to come .

DISCLAIMER - THEORY ONLY

What I find most troubling is that during this time of budget cutting, the first thing to often be cut by states is funding for mental health services. Such actions will only make events like the Arizona incident happen more frequently.

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Mkay. My .02¢

Loughner = lone wolf wacko who snapped.

Many of the seemingly odd irregularities are simply because truth is often stranger than fiction. There are countless variables and simply because everything doesn't fit nicely in a tidy box, I don't suspect an orchestrated Machiavellian motive. I only wish the dirt bag Loughner would have the courage to off himself so he wouldn't become a conspiracist's folk hero and provide more fodder to distrust the evil government.

And as the old adage goes, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Just my humble opinion though. Should he die an untimely death or the surveillance footage is permanently withheld I reserve my right to change my mind.

Regards and sorry if I was harsh before. The stretcher reference which took all of :30 seconds to dismiss got my goat. I get sarcastic when that happens.