Is ATS Supporting Ignorance Concerning Chemtrails? I think so.

Originally posted by IndieA
I agree with the op. On certain days I look up and think to myself, "this is crazy" I see much more jets in the sky than usual and they leave trails that linger and later develop into cloud cover.

So you and the OP know every flight that will pass through the area that you live on every day DONT THINK SO!
Find out how contrails appear they look up the weather data for your area and you can get data for various altitudes!
Wow they spread out hard to believe its windy up there

well this is how they do it and the reason why www.patentstorm.us... so chemtrials do not exist? wow how would of thought!!! and this is in 1991

reply to post by bekod


Oh I didn't know planes could fly into space and create contrails....

Please read your source before using it as a source and you will save yourself embarrassment.

From these numbers, it is seen that it is not difficult to substantially increase the plasma density through injection of ionized gas from a rocket or satellite (or, conceivable, a gun).

www.freepatentsonline.com...

Originally posted by Blaine91555

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Blaine91555

 

Also since it is a fact we live longer and are healthier, explain why these dangerous Chemtrails you can't even define are causing us any harm if they do exist?

Do you miss or simply ignore my post and that of another member that says life expectancy is actually falling??

Care to show different?

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My Father lost four of his brothers in the Flu outbreak. When I was young, the average person over about 68 was in a Nursing Home or home bound, while today they are running alongside the young people in the gym's.

But lets not confuse things with facts. Wild baseless theories are so much more fun.

It's no longer 2003. It's 2011. And the man in video claimed that they have been spraying since 1997. Not that long ago.


Life expectancy is dropping. Blame it on fast food (since when have Americans been nutritious?), blame it on smoking (you think people smoke more now than in the 30's 40's 50's 60's 70's?), blame it on what you wish, but it's dropping.

abclocal.go.com.../health/your_health&id=7835599

voices.washingtonpost.com...

www.drugs.com...

reply to post by whitl103


It's not dropping.

We might be eating unhealthier but we're still living longer.

Life expectancy chart to 2008

They need to fly a normal Boeing 747 during a time of heavy chemtrailing, with a panel of people to thouroughly inspect the plane, and then, observe the flight of the plain during a regular day of "chemtrailing" - if the test plane does not produce the chemtrail effect, yet the chemtrails from other planes still exist in the sky, then we know something is up.

reply to post by weedwhacker



Caps, extreme punctuation, and repeating phrases does not make your point better...

First off, why must you try and insult other people by calling them "charlatans" and "goofs"? Your on every single chemtrail thread, every single one, so what does that make you? Don't tell me not to question when I see strange things going in the sky over the top of me. You sir have made your view point excessively clear, other people may think differently than you, deal with it. You have provided no proof that they are not spraying. I can at least provide picture proof of a plane with a "contrail" which dissipates as the plane flies across the sky. I can also provide picture proof of a plane spray "chemtrails". Sometimes the sun hits at the correct angle in the sky in the "trail" and you can see what almost looks like a "rainbow" effect in the sky(not a sundog). Sort of like when you see the sun reflecting of the water that has oil in it. Whats that then? I have been looking in the sky since I was young and it was not always like that. Stop telling us how dumb we are, and how smart you think you are and DENY IGNORANCE! Where's your proof at weedhacker?

For those looking into atmosphere manipulation, here is a link to the first part of a speech which is one of the best presentations that I have seen to date on the subject by a man known as Clifford Carnicom. This is a must see! (especially part 9)



His website...
The Carnicom Institute

The reasons for a chemtrail or contrail appearing are due to the altitude, and temp and moisture in the air as they fly, however, it is fact that there is a chemical composition to the vapor you see, if you don't see it, that doesn't mean it isn't there, just think about that for a minute.

You are only upset about those that you DO see, and you only see those because of the above reasons, the sky is full of planes that are emitting the exact same thing, and unless they happen to be at that same altitude, and the temp and moisture are just right, you don't even see what they are spreading!!!!

reply to post by space cadet


Thank you for being reasonable. Yes, all jets have an exhaust; whether this exhaust is visible or not depends on atmospheric conditions. There is no reason to believe that anyone is intentionally adding anything to the fuel for sinister purposes. On the other hand, there is no question that jet exhausts (along with automobile and marine exhausts) have an environmental impact. It is perfectly reasonable to question the potential negative impact on the environment, and it has been the source of controversy in the scientific community for decades. Ironically, the chemtrail believers seem oblivious to this because they think that certain planes are "special."

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by whitl103

 

It's not dropping.

We might be eating unhealthier but we're still living longer.

Life expectancy chart to 2008

It was actually reported on ABC radio this week that our children now will most likely be the first generation to see a drop in life expectancy..
They do have podcasts if you care to check..
Of course the blame is put on diet....

Originally posted by backinblack

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by whitl103

 

It's not dropping.

We might be eating unhealthier but we're still living longer.

Life expectancy chart to 2008

It was actually reported on ABC radio this week that our children now will most likely be the first generation to see a drop in life expectancy..
They do have podcasts if you care to check..
Of course the blame is put on diet....

Well since diet and lack of exercise, because they are sitting at computers all day on facebook and claiming Nibiru exists why shouldn't diet get the blame!!!

reply to post by wmd_2008

Well since diet and lack of exercise, because they are sitting at computers all day on facebook and claiming Nibiru exists why shouldn't diet get the blame!!!

What a waste of typing...

You know Nibiru is not part of this discussion?

So posting documentation from DRI & NASA (with plenty more agencies yet to be posted) regarding their atmospheric field experiments & simulations (and to be sure, simulations are NOT limited to the virtual world) still leaves Chemtrails as "highly speculative" or uncorroborated on this site? I see a great many fantastic discussions here, though the behavior regarding chemtrails is inconsistent to the point of baffling when seeing the other conversations here. We need little more than attach an absurd theory to a truth in order to muddy the waters around here, or what? I thought this place had a little more brilliance than that.

reply to post by Nefarious


Your simile is a bit of a stretch...what can I come up with as an analogy??

To suggest that "just because" some experiments occur (and, the term "simulations" does, usually, imply computer models) and then make that GREAT LEAP to actual wide-spread implementation?

It's like saying that some garage inventor is tinkering with his great idea.....but, merely because of that, his concept is ALSO already being utilized by people everywhere....before he's even finished it!!

Or, a pharmaceutical company working on new drugs, testing in limited trials.....but, they are ALSO already shipping them to pharmacies and medical supply warehouses world wide, willy nilly (but, "secretly"...)?

hey OP you might find this interesting. I took these pictures at UF in Gainesville which is in Alachua County on Wed. Jan 26, 2011. I took them in the morning and they were in the sky all day. idk if they're chemtrails or contrails but i've been wanting to post them for a while so here they are.

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reply to post by trinlan



Yes, those are perfectly normal contrails. See 'em nearly every day.

However, I said "nearly" every day.....because, conditions are constantly variable....not only seasonally, but sometimes just hour-to-hour. Of course, a locality can go for days on end, with no visible contrails ever forming....because of the prevailing relative humidity and temperature combination at altitude. It can remain so, for a while....OR, change rapidly, as the air circulates, and more moisture-laden air moves into the area.

It is really, really basic meteorology.

Hey! You're attending UF?! Why not ASK a professor, there??

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I just checked.....the University offers courses in meteorology and climatology:

www.geog.ufl.edu...

ADDING for your comment, below: Of course, you don't have to TAKE A CLASS!!! I point this out because there are obviously instructors there, so you can ASK THEM!!! (Do they charge a tuition fee, just to answer a simple few questions??)

Oh, and....even IF you don't want to get into the field of climatolgy....ummmm, it is BASIC science and knowledge that all people should be equipped with. IF that were the case, then this ridiculous "chem"-trail hoax would have been dead at the starting gate, back in the late 1990s.....when it started!!!

reply to post by weedwhacker


oooohhhhh ok haha thanks! ehhhh meteorology doesn't really suit my interests lol

reply to post by Blaine91555

Explain why the Pilots and Crews who would be fully aware they were spraying are all keeping it secret.

Remote controlled planes are nothing new.

Originally posted by vermonster
reply to post by Blaine91555

 

Explain why the Pilots and Crews who would be fully aware they were spraying are all keeping it secret.

Remote controlled planes are nothing new.

now this I just have to see. is there any chance at all, even a very remote possibly, that you could provide me a link to suggest that someone has taken a large jet and made it remote control? I am not saying it can't happen, just that I don't think it has. unless of course you can show different.