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Faking documents seemed like a good idea, too, documents which could later be "called out" so as to make WikiLeaks look unreliable.
And Barr wanted to go further, pushing on people like civil liberties Salon.com columnist Glenn Greenwald—apparently hoping to threaten their livelihoods. "These are established professionals that have a liberal bent, but ultimately most of them if pushed will choose professional preservation over cause, such is the mentality of most business professionals," he wrote. "Without the support of people like Glenn WikiLeaks would fold."
When the US Chamber of Commerce wanted to look into some of its opponents, Barr teamed with two other security companies and went nuts, proposing that the Chamber create an absurdly expensive "fusion cell" of the kind "developed and utilized by Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC)"—and costing $2 million a month. And if the fusion cell couldn't turn up enough opposition research, the security firms would be happy to create honeypot websites to lure the Chamber's union-loving opponents in order to grab more data from them.
The leaked report suggested numerous ways to destroy WikiLeaks, some of them likely illegal -- including planting fake documents with the group and then attacking them when published; "creat[ing] concern over the security" of the site; "cyber attacks against the infrastructure to get data on document submitters"; and a "media campaign to push the radical and reckless nature of wikileaks activities." Many of those proposals were also featured prongs of a secret 2008 Pentagon plan to destroy WikiLeaks.
More e-mail messages believed to belong to HBGary Federal Chief Operating Officer Greg Hoglund were posted online Sunday, fulfilling a promise by online mischief making group Anonymous to further embarrass the Washington D.C. security firm, whose CEO aroused the ire of the hacktivists last week.
"You've got the names and e-mail addresses of high ranking government officials," notes Hadnagy. Beyond that raw information, there are detailed exchanges between HBGary and HBGary Federal executives: CEO Aaron Barr, COO Ted Vera and Federal Principal Consultant Phil Wallisch detailing HBGary's Federal's efforts to win the approvals needed to pitch and sell its technology to individuals within the elite law enforcement, defense and intelligence agencies. Together, the e-mail messages provide a road map of the professional and personal networks that are the currency of the Washington D.C. business and intelligence communities. Other e-mail exchanges provide insight into the thinking and needs of U.S. spy agencies. E-mail conversations between HBGary executives discuss the technology interests of the NSA, for example, and how the super secretive agency may end up applying the company's technology, which allows researchers to observe and dissect the operation of malicious programs in minute detail, with the goal of discovering its author or origin.
Originally posted by The Old American
reply to post by MindSpin
I rarely agree with you on any point, but on this point I call you brother. Anonymous is a cancer of egoism. They have begun to believe in their own propaganda, but they are little more than bullies, pushing around anyone that dares to express an opinion. WBC is a horrible, hate-filled organization. But they have the same rights as everyone to express their views. Anonymous took that from them, as they have done to Scientology, Gene Simmons, Amazon and anyone that gets in their way of saving us from ourselves.
/TOA
Originally posted by Conciliatore
Dear OP
Something you dont understand
Anonymous is a multi-architecture system, we work on differents sub- levels
Some are creating agitations,turmoils and storms, attack by using ridiculous tactics, as a satyre, to remind peoples how the medias are actualy using the SAME tactics to brainwash thems
The second layer is oriented into direct and computerized attacks, using pranks and stupid attacks.
the third layer is dirrectly oriented to organizing IRL attacks, protests, etc etc etc.
Fourth layer is here to create a distracting move
While the fifht layer is centered on communication and propaganda
the last layer is directly oriented on heavy IRL attacks and heavy hacking tactics.
Believe us, we are worse than what you could ever imagine
Best Regards
We are Legion
We Never Forgive
We Never Forget
Expect Us
Believe us, we are worse than what you could ever imagine
Originally posted by mr-lizard
Originally posted by The Old American
reply to post by MindSpin
I rarely agree with you on any point, but on this point I call you brother. Anonymous is a cancer of egoism. They have begun to believe in their own propaganda, but they are little more than bullies, pushing around anyone that dares to express an opinion. WBC is a horrible, hate-filled organization. But they have the same rights as everyone to express their views. Anonymous took that from them, as they have done to Scientology, Gene Simmons, Amazon and anyone that gets in their way of saving us from ourselves.
/TOA
Erm.. How exactly did Anon 'take that from them'? In regards to WBC
So are you the Anonymous spokesperson for ATS?
The WBC easily controlled Anonymous and got them to do exactly what they wanted.
Is that an admission that Anonymous is not a force for "good"...but "worse" than anyone can imagine??? I don't understand the meaning behind this statement.
Sadly, most people who involve themselves with anon are probably sad cases who have little power in their own lives, so they have found an ''edgy'' group that they feel a sense of belonging and an illusion of importance with.
Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
Anonymous is just a fad.
I'm pretty sure that in 1 or 2 years time the group will be old news and long since forgotten.
Originally posted by MindSpin
Originally posted by JohnnyTHSeed
If this year were 2006, your classifying Anon as a fad could have potentially been correct. However, after going strong for 5+ years it is time to define Anon as what it is: a movement.
Originally posted by JohnnyTHSeed
As for your assertion that Anonymous having not achieved anything, en.wikipedia.org...
Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
reply to post by Conciliatore
Anon are interested in ''lulz'' and creating ''drama'', but now some members are getting a little bit overexcited and believing their own hype, and pretending that they are some real cause with a serious objective.
Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
There is nothing noteworthy at all there, and much of the action is mean-spirited and harmful, such as flooding an epilepsy forum with flashing images.
If that lists their achievements, I would hate to see what their list of failures looks like.