Some fins up! 100,000 sharks mass off Florida's beaches

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Actually, If you look at the thread where this story was first posted.

there was another mass shark migration in 2008!
Check it in the thread-

breathtaking video- 100,000 sharks

By the way in case anyone cares, when it comes to Terms of Service here on ATS. The other two existing threads appear in the Fragile Earth Forum where as this appears in the Breaking Alternative News Forum.

Which is not only permissible, but valid as the story was published within 36 hours of this thread by the publication the thread is using for an opening piece.

This is the nature of the beast.

Thanks.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Amazing photos and video at the link, think I will cancel my trip to Miami since I won't be able to go swimming, Hope you stay out of the water Proto, I will bet they are hungry.

What is interesting is you mentioned they are migrating North and the articles I read talks about them migrating South this time of year, that is strange if they are going North.

Thanks for posting this thread.

reply to post by VonDoomen

Hundreds of sharks.

As opposed to 100,000 sharks.

Slight difference there.


reply to post by Aquarius1

I caught that too, Aquarius1, which is why my statement earlier about them needing a plan B, so to speak. Something caused them to reroute. They're trying to figure out what to do now.

Another possibility could be the changing water temperatures are causing them some confusion.

In any case, they'll probably adapt.

Originally posted by VonDoomen
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

This has already been posted and discussion with an ongoing thread!

here->
Breath taking video - 100,000 sharks

I have heard some disquieting rumors about some similiar threads in FRAGILE EARTH, yet have not seen any evidence of these threads in the Washington Post, New York Times, Miami Herald, or other major publications so I am assuming that it's all part of some bizarre conspiracy theory.

Further I think we have to question the count of the Sharks as if it was taken by the National Park Service they are known for being incredibly biased when it comes to inflating or deflating numbers for political cause.

However regular members should know that...posting a Breaking News Story in that forum that appears elsewhere in another forum is not against the Terms of Service, and that posting On Topic is always a GREAT idea.

reply to post by VonDoomen


Again that's not really science now is it? In fact based on your statistics twice in history does not constitute normal. Just saying becareful with words. Or you will seem naive. Only real studies will show natural fluctuations in migration.

reply to post by Movescamp


Thank you, im well aware that something that we know happened twice isnt normal. But look how big the oceans area and how little we know about them! Many many many animals flock in herds. It would be unwise to think that this has never happened before. We've been scientifically watching this planet for how long? and how long has life been on it?

But i have seen other pictures of huge shark migrations, just not necessarily off the florida coast.

Originally posted by Aquarius1
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

Amazing photos and video at the link, think I will cancel my trip to Miami since I won't be able to go swimming, Hope you stay out of the water Proto, I will bet they are hungry.

What is interesting is you mentioned they are migrating North and the articles I read talks about them migrating South this time of year, that is strange if they are going North.

Thanks for posting this thread.

I tell you the sharks aren't limited to the waters off of South Florida as there appear to be no shortage of them here on ATS and this thread today.

This is probably brought on by some residual but palpable anger of those suffering the bitter cold in most of the country while the local temperature here is a lovely 80 degrees under mostly sunny skies.

I sure can see why some people would be angry over anything.

It does appear that these sharks headed up from the Gulf, the Florida Keys and the Bahamas, and are indeed migrating north instead of South.

Something seems to have driven large numbers of them away from warmer waters to colder ones.

It is odd, thanks for posting my friend.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


well whos actually gonna go down there and count them 1 by 1?

in the orig article it says the line was roughly 20 miles long. I bet they could all fit in there!

reply to post by Movescamp


Again..I don't care.

You can say what you want. I could careless how many damn sharks are off the coast. The only reason I posted in this thread was because the OP didnt look before they posted and I am quite tired of seeing older members do this. It's getting ridiculous and Im tired of seeing duplicates and other members having their threads hijacked and yes that is how I see it. read the boards long enough and you will see exactly what I mean.

reply to post by VonDoomen
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Again you are not using logic just throwing out opinion. Large unusual migrations do occur. They are usually for a reason. Usually because of food shortages somewhere along the way. It's a very in depth study and does not get done with scientists using google. That's what I am saying. You are assuredly saying things beyond your knowledge base. If however you change your semantics you will not only open debate better but offer your ideas as just that rather than a fact.

I have a dear lease, when we have too many deer it's because of a lack of predators. There are usually direct answers to look at. The long term cycles like migration are very deep studies.

reply to post by mblahnikluver


Seriously, with everything going on in the world today repeat threads are what get your goat? Who really gives a crap.

Originally posted by Movescamp
reply to post by VonDoomen
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Again you are not using logic just throwing out opinion. Large unusual migrations do occur. They are usually for a reason. Usually because of food shortages somewhere along the way. It's a very in depth study and does not get done with scientists using google. That's what I am saying. You are assuredly saying things beyond your knowledge base. If however you change your semantics you will not only open debate better but offer your ideas as just that rather than a fact.

I have a dear lease, when we have too many deer it's because of a lack of predators. There are usually direct answers to look at. The long term cycles like migration are very deep studies.

lol you are ridiculous! Your the one sitting here arguing semantics?
So me saying animal migrations are normal isnt scientific based?
Id love to see your sources for that into!

also, managing deer(plant eaters) and sharks(predators) are two different things.

whatever caused this mass migration, has more than likely caused other ones before, wether it be normal, or related to activity in the magnetosphere?

either way, insects, fish, and birds are notorious for staying in groups!

Originally posted by mblahnikluver
reply to post by Movescamp

 

Again..I don't care.

You can say what you want. I could careless how many damn sharks are off the coast. The only reason I posted in this thread was because the OP didnt look before they posted and I am quite tired of seeing older members do this. It's getting ridiculous and Im tired of seeing duplicates and other members having their threads hijacked and yes that is how I see it. read the boards long enough and you will see exactly what I mean.

Actually no, you are incorrect because a duplicate thread is permissible in Breaking Alternative News if the story has appeared in other forums.

So in reality you are admitting to not caring about the topic, but policing the site, which is not only not your job, but no Terms of Service have been violated, as an 'older' member I can tell you that your desire to do that, makes the site less productive and less pleasant.

Unless it's a very well written or very topical thread, most threads have a shelf life of about 72 hours here on ATS.

After that they are rarely posted in or seen on the boards again.

That is just the way it goes.

Now for any of the negative posters on this thread who are upset with ATS Terms of Service then please feel free to make yet another complaint thread, in the Board Business Forum and PLEASE allow the people who SEE this thread on the board to discuss what they want here, and yes please do link the other threads as they might ACTUALLY FIND THEM FOR THE FIRST TIME get you your petty little star and flags because THIS THREAD made it possible FOR THEM TO KNOW ABOUT THE STORY.

Seriously you folks doing this are just plain wrong, and really are contributing nothing of substance to this thread, and the approach you are taking really makes ME NOT WANT to visit these existing threads, because I am ASSUMING you posted on them too.

So if your posts have no topical quality or content here, why the heck would I imagine they do there.

The thread is about the Sharks of the Southern Coast of Florida and it would not and in fact does not violate the terms of service by having an additional thread in Alternative Breaking News.

If you want to play pretend Moderator please actually read the Terms of Service before doing it.

Thanks.

reply to post by Movescamp


Actually, I went back and checked my post that you replied to.

nowhere in it does it say "this is normal" infact the word "normal" doesnt even appear. I just said another one was spotted in 2008. work on that reading comprehension, or you might seem "naive" as you so eloquently put it!

reply to post by VonDoomen


Luckily you posted what i said right above you. Not sure if you read it. Yes I am arguing semantics because in debate it's important to choose your words. Arrogant replies without substance are easily shrugged off.

I was explaining the difference in complexity of prey and predators and how out of your league you were suggesting there is nothing out of the ordinary with this.

I never said one way or another just trying to get folks to use language to actually have a civil and subtenant debate. When you don't you choose your words you just incite argument. It's a big problem with this site.

Rude armchair experts are an epidemic here.