UFO over Jerusalem: CONFIRMED HOAX

Hey,
I've been following and looking into this more or less since the first video was uploaded and think I found a smoking gun.
I've become interested in this because I live in Jerusalem - I don't believe in UFOs and such but remained open to the possibility it might be some military technology or something.
However, I found a Facebook connection that I believe proves a connection between those who made video #4 and those who made videos #1 and #2 regarding a certain Cinema teacher at a high-school where those appearing in video #4 study.
This teacher is also friends with the person who uploaded video #1.

So, I have to vote
HOAX [X]

However, I'm happy Jerusalem gets some attention unrelated to conflict and religious fanaticism - there are far more interesting historical, cultural and religious issues and happenings in Jerusalem, and hope to see you all visit one day (you can bring UFOs along if you find any )

reply to post by gift0fpr0phecy


no I cant record on my iphone yet its pretty much all disabled till Alltel comes into town. I can view the basic settings. Why cant I record on my black berry for 15seconds then another 15seconds? Thats 30seconds and it would prove you wrong?

reply to post by Ashtrei

Draken gets it, i would not "go public" ie give out my personal details and thats without posting a vid of a ufo sighting, why would people who had take that risk, especially when people with no proof its fake direct such hostility towards them, as you just did using such emotive descriptions of pissing in their pants etc.

this says it all

"so they are screwed "

if they did film a real UFO, they are still as you say "screwed" who would submit themselves to that

And that is the final nail in the coffin of the argument regarding the lack of witnesses coming forward. Hell, some of the comments on here would make me scared to come forward, and I'm generally not scared of anything or anyone (not because I'm tough, but because I have faith).

There is no way that a person responsible for potential evidence of this magnitude would come forward, allowing themselves to be mobbed by all and sundry, without giving long and careful forethought to the possible consequences.

And let's not forget, they may already (will already) have had a little visit from certain interested parties. The global impact this has had? If genuine, the PTB will have had a few choice words to say...

reply to post by esteay812


I agree and i see someone has made that very point on one of their channels.
If what they recorded is real its an awesome responsibility, and if you add the religious connection an awesome risk
there are many people who do not want UFOs to be real, and there are many people who do not want angels to be real, whats certain is this footage if real will have the fundies and lunatic fringe beating a path to and through their doors.
look at the lady who dumped a cat in a wheelie bin, once her name got out there were howling mobs at her front door.
If this is real it is human history on a scale of imense proportion with all that entails..........

if it is true then i personally feel they have a duty to come forth, but as the adage goes, death is a feather, duty is a mountain.................

I just saw it on ABC news too, they showed the fake 3rd video.

I don't get it, the first videos looks really genuine and then finally the main stream news picks up the story and they choose to show this extremely poor fake video of the event? A video that a retarded seven-year old can see it's fake copy of the first ones.


WHY DIDN'T THE MAINSTREAM NEWS SHOW THE "REAL" VIDEOS?!!?! Are they so incompetent that they didn't bother to investigate this story they broadcasted for more than the 3 seconds it takes to google jerusalem ufo and stumbled on the obvious fake one or are they in the disinfo business? Amazing.....

reply to post by haketem


And your source is...?

If you have it, then fair dinkum. Still, it would leave us only with more questions - not with conclusive proof of anything but association by coincidence or otherwise.

Originally posted by esteay812
reply to post by DeboWilliams

 

I agree Debo, many strange things thoughout the videos, just trying to look at the possible reasons that could answer why they were doing certain things or why something appeared one way, etc.

I don't like the feel of the video of them driving in the car and playing a prank, then recording possibly the most important video ever, then posting it online to display the prank they pulled on their friend in the first place. With a video like this, it seems that the prank on the friend would be forgotten about and the UFO would be front and center.

I just don't understand why the prank was so funny that it was posted with priority over the UFO filmed in the same video!

This is one question I have been pndering, but the answer seems glaringly obvious to me. How many times have you seen footage posted, and people automatically scream HOAX! because they "didn't show footage leading up to the event, and why did they cut it off so soon?"

I think they included all of the footage to show how and why they had *reason* to be there, and how they came upon the anomaly.

Seems quite simple to me, really.

reply to post by Shades1035


No, they aren't that incompetent. They've been leaned on (or ordered) to show the faked one. For reasons we can all hazard fairly good guesses at.

reply to post by FlyInTheOintment


I was going to reply to this guy, but just go back and look at previous posts.

reply to post by haketem


another good find, thank you

reply to post by ExCloud


ok lets see two shots of 15 seconds. Oh, and please provide information about distance of the lights. better yet... why don't you take 30 seconds of video in one location, then move the cameras position 1 foot to the right and take 30 seconds more.

reply to post by FlyInTheOintment


I understand your point, but I also like Debo's idea and work done to show the possible manipulation of audio.

With that though, I am not sure if enough of the variables are known from the recording location to make a proper comparison of the two videos and be 100% confident in the results. So it could be flawed, because of one of the unknown variables.

Originally posted by Ashtrei
reply to post by DeboWilliams

 

again you are ascribing motivations to a situation that you have no personal parity with.
Draken gets it, i would not "go public" ie give out my personal details and thats without posting a vid of a ufo sighting, why would people who had take that risk, especially when people with no proof its fake direct such hostility towards them, as you just did using such emotive descriptions of pissing in their pants etc.

this says it all

"so they are screwed "

if they did film a real UFO, they are still as you say "screwed" who would submit themselves to that ?

edit on 5-2-2011 by Ashtrei because: (no reason given)

Dude, your thinking way to outside the realm of possibilty.

ie Their information is already out there,

EliGael Gedalyovich
Michael Nauminkov
Dor Tibi
Yuli Cohen

If they was soooo scared, why did they even release it in the first place?

reply to post by Ashtrei


I absolutely HATE that woman...

Stupid lady should've considered that she lives in the UK, where we get filmed on average 300 times a day (a statistic that's been around a good few years now so I guess it's more like 400 times a day by now...)

Your comparison is a good one. Imagine if that cat represented your most sacred religious beliefs, and the action of putting it in a bin represented a possible end to the meaning with which you had previously filled your life?

The resulting range of emotions would be pretty terrifying, even from the non-sociopathic members of whichever faction of cat-worshippers you belonged to...

reply to post by gift0fpr0phecy


See i say I will do something then you mock me well it comes off as mocking.... If you are not I am sorry thats how your typing comes out as. I said I can do 15seconds,15seconds. Then splice them together(if i can) or else I will just have to upload them as video 1 and video 2. It would be nice if someone else had a blackberry with a card this would be simple to show this guy. Maybe i should go to walmart and buy a card quick.

reply to post by DeboWilliams


Because they're dumb kids who didn't realise the ramifications and thought the whole event should be known by the world?

Quite simple really. As per any relevant occurrence meriting a visit from the PTB, once they've paid their visit, and once you've seen the effects your actions have had upon the people of your nation/ the world, you start to withdraw - a 'flight' reaction to the real possibility of mortal danger.

reply to post by Ashtrei


Yes, but I fear if this or another event of this type of magnitude were caught with so little witnesses we would never ever ever know if it was really true.

No way would this be allowed to be shown as real by the governments. Not now anyway, unless the governments had something to gain from it, which brings back to possible illusory technology... I hope I am not using that wrod 'illusory' horribly wrong

reply to post by DeboWilliams


You make my point, they didnt, the created YT channels with anon handles, PPl like us "dug up" their real names
their anonimity was not respected even though that was the intent in using anon channels to post their experience

and thats 4 names there are 6 players........

reply to post by ExCloud


Sorry, what in the hell are you talking about? Your post makes no sense. But then, your position been strangely malleable with moments of fanaticism, so I don't think I'll be replying to any more of your comments.

So yeah, don't bother. I've got the measure of you now. I think. You're making it difficult by being so darn ambiguous all the time.

reply to post by esteay812


Even if the government were the ones to release a video like this it would be classified fake. Just like 9/11 wasnt hit by planes.... Sorry to bring that up or bash people but im saying it to make a point.