UFO over Jerusalem: CONFIRMED HOAX

reply to post by DeboWilliams

The people have shown (so far, for reasons known / unknown) reluctance to answer MORE important questions other than if they WOULD answer questions

Almost reminds me of an advertisement of an upcoming television program that doesn't want to give away any of the climax.

EDIT to Add: Jeez, I finally get a post on top of the page and ^ THAT is what I post?... sheesh

It still appears that video 1, video 2, and video 4 are real. Video 3 was a hoax and I heard that the person who hoaxed it was an ATS member.

Originally posted by esteay812
reply to post by ExCloud

 

Would definitely help the discussion to have something 100% accurate to bank on. Speculation is a tricky thing when facts are hard to come by.

I'm quite convinced, from the discrepancies in the videos, that it was manufactured. The "flash effect" must have had some kind of emotional effect on people, and the "whoa" went up at the "flash effect", not the actual take off, which lead some to mistakenly assume that the "whoa" was premature. But the "flash effect" is absent in at least one other video. I guess it looks chic; like a UFO would need "exhaust blast" to rapidly gain altitude, like a jet. Mighty impressive to our primitive minds. Hollywood could not have done a better job in "persuasion".

reply to post by gift0fpr0phecy


Obviously you have a good camera then or phone. Mine picks up garbage well my Iphone doesnt my old blackberry does. All i get are the main lights If the vehicle is far away I get nothing. If the lights are far away they wont show up but I can see them naked eye and on my iphone pretty well. This is all I am saying I have tried it and with my blackberry (2.8mega pixel) camera on it. Its not good at all doesnt pickup much. it will pickup okay in the dark like the moon etc, but light seams to kill its visual capability.

reply to post by Quartza


Flawed logic seems to be an issue for Debo; note the efforts a few pages back, to tie in the possibility of cgi and the audio discrepanices, which failed logically in such a stunning way that it was quite hard in only a sentence to explain how wrong it was!!!

reply to post by Al E. Inn


are you being on the offense and want me to sit in defense?

Are you asking me if I have undeniable proof and to prove it?

reply to post by ExCloud


Then prove it.... show me a video of city lights, and not one light turns off, or on, and not one light moves. No movement what so ever, not even faint pixels... Prove it..

Until then, what you say is BS, because even a crappy camera will show moving pixels of light.

reply to post by FlyInTheOintment


Man you just keep popping up like a fly attracted to crap. What new info do you have? None? oh yea your only purpose in this thread is to waste space

reply to post by RayA54


But, manufactured by who? Hoaxsters seeking monetary or popularity gains or governments testing illusory technology?

reply to post by gift0fpr0phecy


Can I use video one with screen shots of lights flickering? I dont care if lights turn on and off? I can go outside right now with my bad camera and take video of no lights turning on and off.

reply to post by gift0fpr0phecy


Lights are flickering all over as they should be in video 1 just so you know but I can go outside and take a video if you would like my video will be 15seconds long, but I can show you the same thing of noone in them 15seconds is going to the bathroom turning out street lights etc.

reply to post by DeboWilliams


Absolutely not. I truly respect you're effort, in fact I'm firmly in your court. I just would like to see this stop until any new subjective evidence comes forwward.

reply to post by burntoast


TRUE[ ] HOAX[X ]

reply to post by Mr Mask


Mr Mask, you are a conspiracy theorist, and you know full well what happens to ordinary citizens who come into possession of 'something' that threatens the government, or the 'established order'.

Heck, your own ATS comic book uses the visit from the PTB as a plot device. Don't tell me that you are ignoring the very real possibility that the secretive agencies slinking around in the shadows of Jerusalem's walls are interested in what's going on here?

Come on mate, it's painful to see someone miss the point by such a wide margin.

reply to post by FlyInTheOintment


I am sure this has been done, if possible and think I saw something like it some pages back, but not sure.

I know you can take a photo and manipulate color levels and adjust different aspects to see if the image has been 'tampered' with. Can you (anyone) take a still from this video and do this?

Iam not sure if exif data applies to this, but am guessing since it hasn't been talked about - that I have seen - it only applies to still pictures.

TRUE [ ] HOAX [X]

Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment
Heck, your own ATS comic book uses the visit from the PTB as a plot device.

A visit from the MIB's is not as bad as some make out

reply to post by zorgon


Especially the female MIBs

reply to post by ExCloud



Like I said, the lights are flickering because of compression and camera movement. Small lights are hard to represent in pixels when they are moving. FLICKERING is not what I am talking about.

I am talking about lights turning off and staying off. Lights turning on and staying on. And lights moving.

How about you film 30 seconds of video. Or the same time that is shown in video 1.

Do it.

Ok listen guys

Stop stroking your epeen and listen



Are we supposed to believe that shshsh331 aka video 2 recorder seen recording, stood there for 42 seconds and didnt record anything? Even though his cellphone is clearly on, and hes clearly pointing it at the ufo?

Because from his footage, his recording doesnt start until 42 seconds after video 1 started.

Now, debate that shizzle