UFO over Jerusalem: CONFIRMED HOAX

I wish an independent expert would verify or debunk these clips....Then maybe we could move on and discuss the religous aspects of this case...

Currently I am studying the "Weather Webcam Snapshots" that show anomalies.

This happened with the "Turkey Footage" people tried hard to debunk it and I continued to defend it. After several tries to debunk the Turkey Footage they never could do it.

IF a UFO landed on the White House lawn then debunkers will reach for anything ,even if it makes them look desperate to try and debunk it and in the end they FAILED.

Originally posted by phishyblankwatersone of t he videos is clearly faked, and the others appear connected to a well know hoaxer.

I'm under the assumption that 'vid 3' has been shown to come from a well known dubious source (and is obvious & crude fakery), but am not aware that vids, 1, 2 & 4 were shown to come from the same source - could you please confirm this for me?

I know their authenticity (vids 1, 2 & 4) is disputed, I'd like to know where the idea they are associated with the known hoaxer from 'vid 3' comes from if possible.

Stay tuned for my Weather Webcam snapshots.

I can't wait to see 'FRANTIC DEBUNKERS" scramble together a way to call WEATHER WEBCAMS a BIG CONSPIRACY HOAX.

Originally posted by Paradigm2012
There is no "Parallax Issue" in the first video.

watch here www.youtube.com...

We put that to bed yesterday.

If the first video is real and the 3rd is a hoax then what do you do?

Though that video was made to discredit the parallax paradox fund in clip one of this case, the maker of the video actually failed and unknowing proved further the point that the background and foreground in UFO-clip-1 doesn't follow the basic fundamental laws of perspective.

I will attempt one more time at explaining this to you.

Look at the background of your virtual rendering behind your virtual wall. See how the background morphs and changes in depth and width as the optical eye changes its location in space?

Imagine if every pixel in that diagram was actually a city light. You would now effectively have thousands of city lights in the back ground.

Now watch your video as those thousands of lights move in relative distance of each other as the optical eye moves, changing distance from each other as the laws of perspective demand they must.

Also notice how when the eye goes left- the foreground goes right, and the background goes left-and visa versa as demanded by parrallax.

Now watch the first UFO clip (clip one). The foreground and background do not move dependent on each other and live separate lives apart in the linear plain of perspective ahead.

Meaning at times they are both moving the wrong way and simply shifting in impassible ways that disobey perspective.

Thats the last time I'm giving this explanation....so I hope it made sense to all who read it.

If not- here are the basic rules of perspective in a nut shell, if you feel up to "getting this".
Rules of Perspective

reply to post by King Triad


If these were debunked, conclusively, what religous aspects would there be?

reply to post by Paradigm2012


I think many who believe it to be fake, or those who are devout skeptics, will definitely go out of their way to try and disprove something. I don't think they will go to any further extremes than someone who believes it to be real, even after all the evidence adds up to a different conclusion.

I still feel the best thing to do is not get sold on one truth or the other until enough evidence is gained to reach an absolutely conclusive outcome.

Originally posted by OptimisticPessimist
What gets my spidey sense tingling in all of this, is that the MSM have only been showing what is clearly a fake of the others, namely 'vid 3'.

I also find it odd, and to even make it begin to make sense I have to say "the media didn't know there was better clips?"

But I think they knew all the clips.

Weird to pick the easiest hoax to prove.

MM

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I don't believe they will be debunked so let the experts have at it...You have to remember the PTB's game concerning ufo's if this is real they are freaking out..big time.

Originally posted by Paradigm2012
Stay tuned for my Weather Webcam snapshots.

I can't wait to see 'FRANTIC DEBUNKERS" scramble together a way to call WEATHER WEBCAMS a BIG CONSPIRACY HOAX.

How does that make sense?

Care to elaborate?

What?

MM

hmm that 4th video with the folks in the car actually going to the location was quite interesting and new to me until this morning. Also in reference to the issue of parallax, would it be possible that a #ty cellphone camera would present such issues? Has anyone analyzed other cellphone camera videos, preferably those taken night? Findings?

Originally posted by Mr Mask

Originally posted by OptimisticPessimist
What gets my spidey sense tingling in all of this, is that the MSM have only been showing what is clearly a fake of the others, namely 'vid 3'.

I also find it odd, and to even make it begin to make sense I have to say "the media didn't know there was better clips?"

But I think they knew all the clips.

Weird to pick the easiest hoax to prove.

MM

So the MSM were stating it was a hoax?

Originally posted by Paradigm2012
IF a UFO landed on the White House lawn then debunkers will reach for anything ,even if it makes them look desperate to try and debunk it and in the end they FAILED.

Oh get off the 'debunkers suck' band wagon already. The wheels are falling off, and its badly in need of a service.

There isn't some monolithic evil group of debunkers plotting in the pit of despair to prevent knowledge getting out.

Basically, even if their opinions disasgree with yours, having these people around is useful. They're clearly looking into this deeper than yourself who is pretty much impersonating a bad Batman villain rubbing his hands together whilst his evil boy scout henchmen do the dirty work.

Take people's point of views on board, make your own decision. It's that easy.

I welcome the analysis.

Well im still busting (cant say his name's ) chops as he refuses to cooperate with the story. However he is very upset that, well he claims ATS stole his story lol. I explained he was banned for spamming in violation of terms of use here. He claims members of ATS were actually behind hoaxing video 3 and then claims he has the proof. Well i called him out on it and he refuses to provide his professed proof. He is clearly a manipulator and a liar those of you know who I am referring to. This all leads back to him and the witnesses are not cooperating or talking still.

Im just going to forget said hoaxer of said hoax web site because frankly he is known to steal others material then claim to be in contact with the party. This does lead back to him but he refuses to confess still. So now the question is who is "Mr Eligael Gidlovitch" is he a real person or is this an alias? Can this man be looked up and contacted in that area? Because he is missing from all of this. It stinks, remember the Guardian tape? The one with the UFO/Possible Helicopter in the field? This reminds me of that.

Just stumbled on to this new video
30 sec vid Explaining UFO hoax Jerusalem
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Webcam with panorama view of Jerusalem at time of UFO
www.youtube.com...

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No...just giving the spooky voiced "are we alone?" kinda talk and leaving it undecided.

No evidence of them taking it serious or investigating as of yet.

But I'm betting some mainstream guy/girl with super myth-buster-esk credentials will put it to the test sooner or later.

I'm pretty sure all these clips will be analyzed by the mainstream for our entertainment soon enough.

But what will the crowd say after that is said and done? I wonder.

MM

Just a few things to mention......first, although it may look like the ball of light is directly over the temple mount, it is slightly off to the side. Also, the flashing doesnt appear to be coming from the orb, but from the ground. If this is, in fact real, then what purpose would there be for any EBE or UFO to do this? Forgive me if these have been mentioned previously, but I just dont have time to go through 80+ pages of reading.

reply to post by DancingBear


I hear ya.
Anyone who's taken plenty of footage with a cheap(ish) mobile phone will attest to the fact that you can see some weird and 'impossible' effects from that media type.
Now, if this had been filmed using state-of-the-art camera equipment I'd be on the other side of the fence shouting about the" errors in perspective" too.

Originally posted by OptimisticPessimist
reply to post by DancingBear

 

I hear ya.
Anyone who's taken plenty of footage with a cheap(ish) mobile phone will attest to the fact that you can see some weird and 'impossible' effects from that media type.
Now, if this had been filmed using state-of-the-art camera equipment I'd be on the other side of the fence shouting about the" errors in perspective" too.

I agree with this wholeheartedly...we are talking cheap cell phone technology then everyone's like look there are glitches..it's not Miramax...

Why wasn't there any military responding, I presume that Israel would
put in an massive reaction - strange - no military jets to track or fight
down unknown objects over Jerusalem, why ?

Originally posted by Mr Mask

Originally posted by Zeta Reticulan
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Lol...yes, a sad sad hoax.

I also think clip one is a hoax...but people seem to think that has yet to be proven.

So here we are.

MM