UFO over Jerusalem: CONFIRMED HOAX

reply to post by DeboWilliams


Anyway you can explain what you are doing with the sound clips? I can't really read the windows in your video submission. Thanks

edited my post that had just the vid with my complete post from the other thread

Originally posted by DeboWilliams

Sorry to ruin your computer EGO, but video #2 was standing right next to video #1.

In video #1 you see a guy feet away holding a cellphone. This is the guy in video #2 filming.

Of course you hear the same audio

It is the same audio w/ 2 different cameras.

YOUR COMPUTER EGO is now DEFLATED

reply to post by esteay812


I dunno I had a look theres actually 16 movies coming out theres just something about the start of this video with the people in the car that scream "viral" to me.



heres some links to the upcoming movies:

link1

link2

link3

On the second link for J.J. Abrams "super 8" its says ( read the part in bold )

Super 8 - J.J. Abrams' tribute to Spielberg definitely has touches of "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" in the trailer with the truck and railroad tracks scene, and it would be nice to see this one live up to old-school Spielberg's standards. Things are pretty hush-hush about the movie so far, but it does have something to do with Area 51 and kids capturing something creepy on their Super 8 camera. The movie has already started a viral marketing campaign via the web and even snail mail, so it's looking to be one of the biggest blockbusters of the summer when it hits theaters on June 10, 2011.

Thats the only thing I could find right now but there's tons of movies it could be...

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Witness #2 holding camera
Witness #1 holding camera
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Both cameras record (THE AUDIO)
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Both register the same on your CHEAP SOFTWARE

If I talk in front of 2 cameras w/audio both recordings will be my voice talking.

Your AUDIO PRESENTATION proves NOTHING

reply to post by roughycannon


And you think a major Hollywood studio would choose to make a viral video campaign based on locations in internationally disputed, politically charged territory? both videos are filmed in East Jerusalem, claimed after 1967, and the incident occurs above one of the holiest sites for 2 major religions. Sounds like a risky marketing move to me.

Ok obviously I will have to make another to SHOW EXACTLY how the phenoma happened.

Oh and to the person who said something about "cheap software", I wouldnt call $300 exactly cheap. Besides, you could see this amateur move they did with freeware. Ill be back with a clear example

Usually when a Movie company uses viral videos for upcoming films they host them on their web site. This is a youtube phenomena and none of the videos are associated with companies such as FOX or Paramount or anything like that. If you go check out sony's Battle of La web site they have several viral videos featured on the site posing as real videos and the like. If you remember the film The Fouth Kind they had put up several fake web sites such as a fake bio on Dr Abigail Tyler and people thought it was a real person. Then there was outrage against the film company. So if a film company was to let a hoax of such magnitude get this much attention from the MSM and such it faces long term repercussions and a back lash.

That certainly does not seem to be the case here to be fair. Im sure such a company would have said by now "hey this is just advertising an upcoming film" you would think. We can all suspect it is many things because im still interested and am not convinced 100% Hoax. But it certainly appears to be in so many instances. The burden of proof rests in the hands of the people that filmed this and like I said they are not cooperating.

reply to post by DeboWilliams


Could it be possible that the microphone on the devices they are using, respectively, are different and cause different sounds artifacts or time lapses?

I think im going to spend 20 minutes making a hoax video for you all using the same methods as these videos

I can do it using After Effects,....no problem
Where do you want this UFO???? Over the white house?? Mount rushmore?? City of london??

I have an appointment to go to shortly but i will upload a video showing how easy it is to do this from a picture using software available to everyone.

I still think this is rubbish to be honest, if i can do it....im sure plenty of other people can. Ive just never seen the need to make hoax videos....until now lol

reply to post by roughycannon


I do agree with you about the clip of them in the car and the segment where the guy was running after the car. Something seemed too 'produced' about it. Maybe the quality of the camera or the skill of the cameraman. I don't really know, but it doesn't seem to be like any home video footage I have ever seen before. I am getting older and technology is getting younger, so that might be the disparity in my observation...

Originally posted by Jaylemite
reply to post by roughycannon

 

And you think a major Hollywood studio would choose to make a viral video campaign based on locations in internationally disputed, politically charged territory? both videos are filmed in East Jerusalem, claimed after 1967, and the incident occurs above one of the holiest sites for 2 major religions. Sounds like a risky marketing move to me.

Have you never seen movies depicting iraq or wars or politics, hell even the borat movie was joking about killing Jews...



And so to answer your question, yes I do believe that Hollywood would film a "blob" over Jerusalem...

reply to post by DeboWilliams


Debo as someone who understood your analysis on clip one and two's audio and agreed with it- I must say your vid is just one of the many I didn't post in the OP.

I think if you explained it a little more clearer for folks who may not understand sound and common editing software and then put the video in that same place- you would win a bunch of people's support on the matter.

I got what you said but the way you worded could have come off a bit unclear to someone unfamiliar with sound editing, and you information was posted apart from the vid itself.

I think posting your vid and explaining it once again for everyone would be key towards showing what looks like "probable audio tampering".

Also, in the last thread many members tried to talk to you about it and asked very direct questions that you ignored. Things about wind disrupting the audio.

Anyways- I thought you had a very "powerful argument" that sadly went unnoticed. I say bring your evidence to the table right here and lets take a good look together.

MM

reply to post by loves a conspiricy


I believe in the beggining of this thread there is a post that shows one of the videos has been definitively proven as such a hoax, using readily available programming. This video was also quickly caught and moved to the proper location.

In the relative post there is even a link to the software that can do this effect.

just though this had a nice view point.

its from discl0sur3 thread NEW - 4th Video of Jerusalem UFO Surfaces! now in the hoax bin...
anyways here's Intelearthling post:

Originally posted by Intelearthling
I apologize for posting another video but I found this one.....well.....it's an amazing analysis of video 4.

I'd like to see a side by side analysis of the blinking red lights to compare them.

edit on 3/2/11 by Intelearthling because: (no reason given)

reply to post by esteay812



Im going to use Sony Vegas 9.0 Pro to replicate the same thing over london....i seem to have lost my copy of after effects, but vegas can produce the same thing...is a little bit more difficult as its not as good a program.

Originally posted by NeCedeMalis
reply to post by Unknown Soldier

 

Hmm. Just because he went all nutty doesn't mean he's a fraud. I would probably start questioning my belief in Plaeadians and alien embryos and the like, too, if I had just filmed what he allegedly had. I guess it comes down to the IP address. The guy would have to be posting from a unique address, either from Israel or UK (where he says he currently resides).

The user turned out to be a returning troll.

Like many of the new names that pop in randomly causing trouble and sounding absolutely silly.

Best bet- if you are new on ATS, behave and show you are mature enough to work alongside this community.

That guy was a troll.

MM

Originally posted by loves a conspiricy
I think im going to spend 20 minutes making a hoax video for you all using the same methods as these videos

I can do it using After Effects,....no problem

Where do you want this UFO???? Over the white house?? Mount rushmore?? City of london??

I have an appointment to go to shortly but i will upload a video showing how easy it is to do this from a picture using software available to everyone.

I still think this is rubbish to be honest, if i can do it....im sure plenty of other people can. Ive just never seen the need to make hoax videos....until now lol

Hire some actors, do a driving down highways scene.
hire some cars to drive around
Do 3 Seperate Angles----all with VOICE OVERS.

GET TO WORK DOING VOICE OVERS
YOU NEED 5 SEPERATE ACTORS TO MATCH THE JERUSALEM FOOTAGE
you need 3 different Camera styles
you need video 1 and video 2 to film the same event

NOW YOU GO AND HIRE SOME ACTORS

DONT FORGET THOSE VOICE OVERS

NO VOICE-OVERS=YOU COULD NOT DUPLICATE IT

reply to post by FlySolo


Great find there, Flysolo!
I for one, very much appreciate your efforts there.