UFO over Jerusalem: CONFIRMED HOAX

Originally posted by Paradigm2012
I am going to upload my complete study showing that video 1,2,4 are not hoaxes.

stay tuned for my complete study
and I will share it with ATS first

You will see that this is NOT A HOAX when you READ MY STUDY.

Still waiting for your complete study of the videos...

reply to post by Malynn


So true. I just joined today and thought I would see alot of great post......wow its just so much noise.

deny ignorance.....ha, more like embrace it. The event was real people, wake up!

I have been following this story intently, legitimacy of the videos aside, I do believe this is part of what Rik Clay was touching on a few years ago. The events that have happened in the past week or so are pointing towards a universal coalition between the Christian and Islamic faith resulting in a more spiritual outcome. The orb over Temple Mount and the rise of the Egyptian people against their Prime Minister (to open the government to an American leader) are connected. I believe there is a higher power at work in both cases (even if the videos are faked, which they may not be) towards a higher purpose. I also believe the Utah event was connected to this as it was over a significant religious site and showed the same event at the same time.

What also intrigues me is the fact that two huge generators (with enough output to power a small city) were placed next to Temple Mount weeks before and the fact that religious tunnels where opened near the site at that time.

I am not a religious person by any means but looking at the whole situation in that region does pose a few questions?

With the weather station cam : why not just try to match up the buildings from the day view in google earth then see if the temple is in the right area.

Am starting to lose hope that either 'side' is ever going to be right about this.

I've got that song in my head now. Don't bring me down la la la.

Back on topic. I've just asked the manager a few questions. If I'm wrong about this I'm ok with that. I just want the truth.

Peace

Wait, there are alot of people living in Jerusalem on ATS, some even near that area. Can anyone go to that area seen in the video and check the "tree"? And the surrounding area, if I may. Maybe even take a video camera to try and film the same angle.

reply to post by Hitoshura


Need to know the exact location of the cam. I've requested the coordinates but I think its bedtime there now. To be continued...

reply to post by EBE01


Well, I agree that it is strange these event occurred at the same time Egypt's uprising was getting national attention. Maybe these instances are connected in some way? Who knows?

reply to post by EBE01


The Islamic and Christian faiths will never merge, you are sorely mistaken. Their core, pivotal statements of belief - their very definitions - are entirely anathema to each other; the eschatology is diametrically conflicting - even to the point that each faith, in essence, considers the other to be a heretical counterfeit of itself.

I agree that the events in Egypt/ Middle East and the UFO over Jerusalem are connected, but the way in which that is so remains to be clearly understood.

Something that rings quite true with me that was mentioned in the old post is about video 4. The camera shaking, all the video leading up to the cut to the UFO has very believable, varied camera shaking. Sometimes it's quite still, other times the jerk is drastic then mellows out. The scene filming the UFO has steady camera shake the entire time, not too much, not too little, it never varies, it's constant. It's rather unbelievable. And someone also pointed out the light that seems to suddenly appear on the ground after the UFO takes off. The original commenter was saying it had to do with the light mask they used to make the flash. If you watch the video, you can see it and it rings about an odd feeling. Of course these are for video 4. And I fully believe that it's possible that 1 & 2 are real, but 4 is fake. Though I do like how the object moves in 1, 2, & 4. Very consistent.

reply to post by mr10k


Good point. This is a formal call to all Israeli members of ATS. Please make yourselves known on this thread, and be prepared to work towards clarifying some of the points of contention.

If it was happening in Manchester (heck, even just in the UK), I'd be up for it, so I assume most of our Israeli brethren (and sisters) will be also.

I see this hoax is still kicking. Funny how the lunatic fringe is not interested in the so called "witnesses" still. They continue to evade being interviewed, still. Not to mention the instances of deception in the audio of video #2 actually being the audio from video number 1. As deebowilliams exposed earlier the fringe continues to ignore these factors. Then we have video number 4 with CGI imposed it the video as provided by a ATS member. This is more then obvious that it is a hoax. I don't think people are willing to accept that. The party behind video 1 and 2 are being dishonest with you and that is an understatement.

The Hoaxers probably did not realize this would end up in the national spot light. They will have to answer for their crimes when exposed thoroughly. People YOU HAVE BEEN HAD! Face it, a bunch of teens got over on you. This is just another example of how sheepish people have become. Lets be realistic here, you know damn well that if you or I seen this happen and filmed it and uploaded it to youtube that you would cooperate promptly with media outlets and the UFO community. But we are not talking about 2 guys on a hill but potentially up to 6 kids. And not one of them not even a name has surfaced. These instances are insurmountable for me to support in my conscious being. This is such a cruel hoax it makes me vomit a little in the back of my throat.

The fringe enables deceivers and disinformation , they are working against their own interests rather engaging a belief over logic and truth. Some people seriously need to do some personal inventory and ask thyself what do they want, truth or fantasy?

This is appalling

reply to post by FlySolo


Fight the good fight. It's going to be a long, hard slog, and the 'local PTB' have made it difficult by declining to open research threads (as far as I know - I haven't sen any direct response to my query as yet).

Keep plugging away and hopefully we'll wear down the barriers to truth with sheer perseverance.

One more time....

The topic of this thread is: UFO over Jerusalem: Reopened NOT other members. Keep to the TOPIC only or your post will be removed. Repeat offenders might face a posting ban.

WTF??

It's just a ramble of noise with facts not being found.....
And when they are found ..... the Dinn of name calling makes everyone forget the facts....

To read this thread has my eyes bleeding.... lol

Is it any wonder TPTB cover stuff up?

Cause even if there is a small glimmer of something out of this world or goes against the status quo.....
It just turns into chaos..... Hell there's even scripture being quoted!!.....

If it was real and TPTB confirmed it today ..... Now.....
Can you imagine the chaos?????....... lol..... It doesn't even bear thinking about....

I'm not " believing " anything....... And nor should anyone here....

Facts are what will make or break any case for or against......

Can anyone list 10 facts that everyone can agree on???

I doubt it .....

Only time will tell I suppose..... lol

reply to post by Unknown Soldier


You are pretty good at talking people down. Where is you evidence to say Video 1 is a hoax?

reply to post by Unknown Soldier


You forgot to explain the weather cam. Nice try though. Lot of noise, not much substance.

This is a significant, real UFO event, yet many on here are only concerned with maintaining some kind of reputation for 'critical-mindedness' - which, frankly, has now blasted through the realms of incision, and borders on the edge of obsession.

"Let's keep the world simple, let the truth be locked up tight in a little box - it suits the warmongers, the money makers, and the political shakers. The common man is being kept in the dark. ATS is doing its best to allow pseudoskepticism to take the victory.

Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
I see this hoax is still kicking. Funny how the lunatic fringe is not interested in the so called "witnesses" still. They continue to evade being interviewed, still. Not to mention the instances of deception in the audio of video #2 actually being the audio from video number 1. As deebowilliams exposed earlier the fringe continues to ignore these factors. Then we have video number 4 with CGI imposed it the video as provided by a ATS member. This is more then obvious that it is a hoax. I don't think people are willing to accept that. The party behind video 1 and 2 are being dishonest with you and that is an understatement.

The Hoaxers probably did not realize this would end up in the national spot light. They will have to answer for their crimes when exposed thoroughly. People YOU HAVE BEEN HAD! Face it, a bunch of teens got over on you. This is just another example of how sheepish people have become. Lets be realistic here, you know damn well that if you or I seen this happen and filmed it and uploaded it to youtube that you would cooperate promptly with media outlets and the UFO community. But we are not talking about 2 guys on a hill but potentially up to 6 kids. And not one of them not even a name has surfaced. These instances are insurmountable for me to support in my conscious being. This is such a cruel hoax it makes me vomit a little in the back of my throat.

The fringe enables deceivers and disinformation , they are working against their own interests rather engaging a belief over logic and truth. Some people seriously need to do some personal inventory and ask thyself what do they want, truth or fantasy?

This is appalling

edit on 3-2-2011 by Unknown Soldier because: (no reason given)

You take all the so called evidence to be fact, when it is not. No one has proved that there is CGI

This place is ignorance city

Excuse me for my ignorance, but when did this case become a proven hoax? Best I can tell, the jury is still out on this one until someone locates the original shooter(s) and his/her/their original footage. Without a thorough analysis of the video a definitive decision cannot be made...either way!