UFO over Jerusalem: CONFIRMED HOAX

Originally posted by PhotonEffect

Originally posted by FlySolo


Also, how did you determine the exact location of the webcam as south of the Armenian Quarter? Because when I went to the site it says the station is located much farther west of there, in Nayot. See from site Here

From the map, you can see the weather station is noted on the left with a shot from the actual webcam you've used. Off to the far right (east) of there is the Armenian Quarter and farther east of there is the Temple Mount- (marked w red "A)
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/df149d7cfcbb.png[/atsimg]

So if the camera is facing north, is it really feasible that the dome can be seen in it's view?

edit on 3-2-2011 by PhotonEffect because: link

The site features two cameras - one from Nayot, the other I believe is from Gilo. Fly was talking about the one from Gilo, not Nayot, I believe.

Originally posted by FlySolo
Well, just as I thought, my thread got trashed. Any new evidence posted must be sorted out through this heap.

Well I see we are all back here again. Great. I have really noticed a change around here lately.

reply to post by Mr Mask
DISCLAIMER: Recently a very popular thread was sent to the Hoax forum, and various other threads based on the same event were deleted entirely from ATS (404ed).


This whole post reminds me of an addiction to drugs/aliens, it seems like people on here are so addicted to aliens and spaceships, that they will do almost anything to believe it, this whole video episode is so sad and pathetic, I threw up on my self.

I see why allot of people get tricked into ponze schemes and so many scams across the world, this video has really taught me that there is really not much to learn on the ats, especially if you can take trash out the trash and sell it to the nearest ‘alien head’ for a fix .Its really a sad day on the ats , really is .

I am selling hoax videos for sale to the highest 'alien head' for 10 dollars.
since the ats is a place for hoax videos and finding egnorance,why not.




Going once, going twice...SOLDDDD !

I though I would just weigh in here with my experience. I have personally seen a UFO reach tremendous speed in a fraction of a second that SHOULD be physically possible. What my experience has told me is that this must be indeed physically possible. The only question I have that remains is how?

I do believe this level of technology is attainable, but what I do not know is if this technology currently exists.

Peace & Respect

AS

reply to post by DeboWilliams


Noise, noise and more noise.

It's clear to see what's happening here; and I have a sneaky suspicion that more than 2 or 3 people are convinced by the growing evidence in favour of it being a real UFO event.

Proper analysis can only take place in a noise-free environment. Hence RESEARCH THREADS...

Please, mods? Any mods?

reply to post by DeboWilliams


Well TBH, you may on to something with the audio of the 2nd but that isn't my field. If true then it only proves the 2nd is fake but not the 1st or 4th. I'm aware of copycats and I don't buy into MM's belief that if one is fake then they are all fake. This makes me a skeptic, a real skeptic. I'm even skeptical that this is even a real event but speaking from a true skeptic's standpoint, I remain open. Hence, my weather cam info. If we put the 2nd video to bed and other information comes to light then we must investigate.

I find it odd that that a light appears in the web cam at exactly 12:57 on two occasions. Not 12:55 and 12:20 but 12:57 twice coupled with the fact it is indeed in the same direction of the dome. This opens an entirely different door.

reply to post by Immortalgemini527

This whole post reminds me of an addiction to drugs/aliens, it seems like people on here are so addicted to aliens and spaceships, that they will do almost anything to believe it, this whole video episode is so sad and pathetic, I threw up on my self.

And what do you bring to the debate? do you bring evidence that it was a fake?

that they will do almost anything to believe it

and maybe you could elaborate on who are they?

The site features two cameras - one from Nayot, the other I believe is from Gilo. Fly was talking about the one from Gilo, not Nayot, I believe.

The camera Fly is referring to is the one that shows the lit blinking in his videos. Regardless of which one, I clearly told the manager what video that this phenomon (aka bathroom light as I call it) was seen in, which obviously their website only post recorded video from camera 1. Hence his response (which I'm sure if it was seen from either camera shown on the website, he wouldve stated "you can see it from camera 2 but not 1". Also proof tends to show that camera 2 is pointed in the same direction and mounted in the same location as camera 1 because it states right below it

This is high res zoomed view of small part from the pic of camera 1. It contains the area where the station is located, the city center and more.

This whole webcam thing has been beaten to death

Originally posted by FlySolo

I find it odd that that a light appears in the web cam at exactly 12:57 on two occasions. Not 12:55 and 12:20 but 12:57 twice coupled with the fact it is indeed in the same direction of the dome. This opens an entirely different door.

Please correct me if I've misunderstood this, wasn't the camera taking photos a 10 or 15 minute intervals? How do you know the light appeared at exactly 12.57? Theoretically it could have appeared 5 minutes earlier and not been visible on the previous webcam shot.

reply to post by Immortalgemini527


I think you just proved a point that was made by another member that the obvious hoax video was meant to discredit the (possible) genuine videos. You posted a bunch of obviously faked videos in order to somehow prove how ridiculous it is to believe any UFO footage. Thanks for that

reply to post by FlySolo


I've looked through November - February's videos, I've seen a light appear like 1 pixel below it on December 22nd I think that appeared a few times through the nite. It's almost parrelel to the slightly larger light a quarter inch to the left of it. These are just street / store / bedroom lights, they're ground based. Just put your mouse over the light you found, let the video play to day time, and you'll see that it's still not above the horizon, its infact below the horizon, which even further suggests that it's not aerial. You could argue the cameras point of view, which could make it seem like it's a ground based light, but still, the fact remains that the dome isn't even located in the photo. So it's pointless to even speculate.

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Where is the ATS post on this 4horseman video? I searched and can not find.

Originally posted by Simmy

Originally posted by Simmy

Originally posted by DeboWilliams
reply to post by Simmy

 

Just because some videos are unexplainable does immediately make ALL ufo videos unexplainable. I've seen some videos which cant be dismissed no matter how close of a microscope is used. But this isn't one of them. Doesn't mean videos of UFOs aren't real, just this one isn't.

Yes i agree and respect your opinion. It could well turn up to be a true hoax however some people just call it hoax without even investigate the case. It could well turn up to be genuine and i am not talking about this particular case but on all cases. There is a lot out there that in the past they were called hoaxes while now scientists and with the new technology we have they have turned out to be the opposite. I also believe we have the evidence but the problem is debunking it very quickly because in peoples eyes or ears is impossible or because we were taught differently in our history books...

I guess we will find out, sooner or later the truth will come out...

Take care

Just to add to this.. Just opened my local paper online and find this. I mean they find new stuff every day and it will not be far away before we find life.

www.timesofmalta.com...

If this find is already here some where can you please direct me to it as would like to read more about it?

Thanks again

Ive read your Post in which should of been in its own thread...

if i can say this correctly from the article from your local news paper that is on line

This may proved that scientist has known this for years of the following !

and Just maybe James Cameron Know's a little more than we do.( Movie= Avatar ).. well he did prop up The Jesus Tomb..

From your local newspaper you posted
www.timesofmalta.com...

Avatar ? Pandora & Movie called Pandorum ( moon with water)

"We went from zero to 68 Earth-sized planet candidates and zero to 54 candidates in the habitable zone, some of which could have moons with liquid water."

Among the stars with planetary candidates, 170 show evidence of possessing multi-world solar systems.

Kepler-11, around 2,000 light years from Earth, has six confirmed planets all with orbits smaller than Venus's and is the most tightly packed planetary system yet discovered.

What? 2,000 light years from Earth that can see orbiting planets ! how far can we actually see these star systems what about the one that are closer ! like the Star's that are only withing 5 to 20 light years! ?

So does this Prove, that the craft you see in the video in the Main discussion of this Thread could be actually BE an alien craft from (Stage 3 Civilization ? ) from another Star System? Something Us Earthling have yet to understand... about Space travel


from all the Videos that are yet to be debunked from something that is real and finally there is some truth is spreading .. of possible life in other star systems like the famed Gliese 581g

This Object could be one of those crafts, as of some of US Earthling's only think within our box ( if we cant do it they cant do it) like in a way DR. Neil DeGrasse Tyson for an example





Earth's twin found at heart of Milky Way
www.abc.net.au...

Astronomy
Kepler Finds a Swarm of New Worlds
By Michael D. Lemonick Wednesday, Feb. 02, 2011

Read more: www.time.com...

www.time.com...

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by Immortalgemini527

 

This whole post reminds me of an addiction to drugs/aliens, it seems like people on here are so addicted to aliens and spaceships, that they will do almost anything to believe it, this whole video episode is so sad and pathetic, I threw up on my self.

And what do you bring to the debate? do you bring evidence that it was a fake?

that they will do almost anything to believe it

and maybe you could elaborate on who are they?

edit on 3-2-2011 by Agent_USA_Supporter because: (no reason given)

Im done,i have nothing else to say,its really cramping my style to write on this thread any more,your right, im wrong ,your the winner,no more replys,im out.

Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment
reply to post by DeboWilliams

 

Noise, noise and more noise.

It's clear to see what's happening here; and I have a sneaky suspicion that more than 2 or 3 people are convinced by the growing evidence in favour of it being a real UFO event.

Proper analysis can only take place in a noise-free environment. Hence RESEARCH THREADS...

Please, mods? Any mods?

edit on 3-2-2011 by FlyInTheOintment because: took the bait, corrected my retaliation.

Please enlighten me as to what beneficial contribution you have added to either side of the argument? What information have you brought to the table, besides cause a distraction from the main topic. Atleast FlySolo dug around to find SOMETHING.

What did you do agian?

Did anyone else notice that in the fourth video ( The full Version) the occupants of the car had ELO on the stereo at 3:40

@ tarifa37

They got some good taste in music. ELO is where it's at!

reply to post by oxbow


The time stamp on the screen capture.

reply to post by FlyInTheOintment


Sorry, you got your head in the sand. Because of the faked UFO videos we all become "believers"? Pls speak for yourself only. You're free to believe in these faked videos, but don't project your fantasy onto other people.

As for my argument about photons: you haven't added anything that I didn't state before. But then again when it comes to "exotic" materials any BS goes.

Thank you for your time.