UFO over Jerusalem: CONFIRMED HOAX

Originally posted by ZeroGhost
For the first time in my few years here I am concerned ATS has been infiltrated. It is easy to do with the right type of money and other economic tools, threats and such. Negligence at best. But how can people peddle such bad science a child can see issues with? Many here are completely aghast at this threads horrible tone, play-science and spun ignorance.

No one seems to really be managing these threads. I think I lost ATS as a source of grass roots discussion. Really disappointed in the staff and in particular Springer. Not denying, but now seemingly cultivating ignorance.

A dark day when ignorance rules.

ZG

I agree. There is something creepy going on. With this thread, with GLP going down, some guy named Dave getting arrested. I am utterly shocked to see what is going on here...

Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
reply to post by Quartza

 

No he was missing the fact there was real camera movement mixed with fake camera movement.

Actually I was taking that into account. But that doesn't explain the footage we see in my opinion. As I said i'm no expert, but i do have a basic understanding of video editing.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

reply to post by gift0fpr0phecy


Not worth it.

You have nothing of interest. Aftereffects cannot find the basic lack of science in any part of your adapted premise.

Too many basic wrong perceptions. You are lost in this issues and useless details.

Why don't you put all these unskilled debunkers in After Effects and see if you can fix all the leaks in their theories.

Too many are scared so badly they are yelling fake, hoax & lies, without any basic understanding of what such a statement would demand.

So many weak links.

ZG

reply to post by supermari0


Regarding the dellusional "its a mirror effect" crowd

Everyone look closely at how this video proves absolutely nothing.

Focus on the lack of video hoaxing evidence the above poster could find.

I was reading earlier that someone on this thread was responsible for Video 3, the one that actually shows evidence of a hoax, unlike the others.

Someone on this thread "hoaxed video 3" I will find the quote

and I thought ATS was supposed to be considered objective and scientific

Originally posted by ZeroGhost

Too many are scared so badly they are yelling fake, hoax & lies, without any basic understanding of what such a statement would demand.

Sorry but that's complete BS! Most skeptics here would absolutely love the footage to contain a real ET craft but the mounting evidence suggests that it simply is not. Scared? Those who are crying 'real' are the ones with absolutely no idea of what that statement demands in the way of evidence to the affirmative. The proof for that statement lies in the fact that no 'believer' has provided any such evidence.

IRM

So which one of you hoaxed video 3? and what did you gain from doing that?

Good enhancement of video 4!

Why has this been put back in the hoax board?

reply to post by pharaohmoan


Awesome find! If video 4 is a hoax, it's the best I've ever seen. Look at the effect the light has on the dome itself as it moves away. The cars driving in the foreground is a nice touch. The way the flash lights up the background and pulls objects out of complete blackness. The acting! Video 4 is a masterpiece if it is a hoax.

Originally posted by avvie
Why has this been put back in the hoax board?

I'm amazed it took 118 pages to re-establish that which many of us already knew.

IRM

Know matter what this is in the hoax bin we have discussed it and almost everyone beside a few souls who want this to be real are delusional. This is debunked it had been and I am done even looking at this thread now.

Lol @ the people still believing this.

Aren't you wondering why havent the witnesses came out and said anything yet? It's been a week you know, and they have been online. I could understand MAYBE if they havent logged in since then, but their accounts show activity

to simply put

"We seen em in mississippi like this, but never like this"

What if I told you that the video has not been cleared or erased from the camera/cellphone. What would your response to this be. How could a CGI video be on the cellphone hardrive?

Originally posted by DeboWilliams
Lol @ the people still believing this.

Aren't you wondering why havent the witnesses came out and said anything yet? It's been a week you know, and they have been online. I could understand MAYBE if they havent logged in since then, but their accounts show activity

to simply put

"We seen em in mississippi like this, but never like this"

Until proven otherwise. So far you have come up with nothing to prove it as a hoax.

You may follow your believe system. I choose to follow the data.

Originally posted by Paradigm2012
What if I told you that the video has not been cleared or erased from the camera/cellphone. What would your response to this be. How could a CGI video be on the cellphone hardrive?

If videos can be taken off the cellphone, why couldn't videos be put on it?

I find it wierd that nobody from this thread has done a real investigation or talked to the witnesses. Everyone thinks just sitting at home on their computer is enough to figure it all out. NOPE aint that easy kids

Originally posted by DeboWilliams

Originally posted by Paradigm2012
What if I told you that the video has not been cleared or erased from the camera/cellphone. What would your response to this be. How could a CGI video be on the cellphone hardrive?

If videos can be taken off the cellphone, why couldn't videos be put on it?

You mean 3 complete CGI videos that you are accusing? if they are all on the cellphone harddrive do you think that leads to some credibility?

reply to post by Paradigm2012


Data shows this is a hoax look on page 1 and read all the way through the thread.