UFO over Jerusalem: CONFIRMED HOAX

Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
Someone just informed me that the "mirror image" is actually a hotel and that it is a real image?

I just checked and you can to, that hotel is at that exact spot.
Go to google maps , type in Armon hanatziv-then look for yemin Moshe-then confrim that the windmill is in the Yemin Moshe-also bear in mind that the view of the old city from Armon hanatziv is the side . Then i checked Google and it is exactly there. You thought-what could the chances of a structure so symetrical be on the edge of a video you a sure is hoax. That is curse of Hynek. And that should be a lesson that sometimes things are not as you swear you think they might be

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Thoughts anyone?

WE may be wrong after all.

edit on 5-2-2011 by Unknown Soldier because: (no reason given)

wow what a twist!

time to reopen the thread in a non hoax forum until it's proven that the mirror effect on the left side of the screen is not an actual symmetrical building.

lol

Some guy saying he took pictures of the orb that night.



Pred...

Thats quite a twist indeed. However still few people in Jerusalem to come forward and report a very bright ufo and a very bright flash. Also it wasnt the only edge that was mirrored, albeight the left edge does not appear mirrorred compared to the daylight pic.

reply to post by JPhish


After further analysis the lights of that building do not line up with the mirrored building.

It was worth looking at in all fairness , but once again

Its a bust..

This is a HOAX nothing more

sorry folks

reply to post by JPhish


I already proved that claim is false on page 116.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

If you look closely the lights suck into each other.... no building can do that...

Try again...

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Nobody seemed to get this, or give it much thought. Let me go further to explain it simple like so my "three points" don't get lost in people not getting it, or passing it bye because they think I am dumb or over complicating the matter. Please follow this-

By overlapping both pictures of the UFO event and "The most popular google searched image for "Temple Mount Night" does not fit. This could only be argued (if both real) that is because the cameras both took pics from different places.

Pictures magically align perfectly if you alter the UFO one by stretching it to the left almost half doubling the entire thing. In other words- making it way too long to be a correct picture of Jerulsalem. Yet, now they both align perfectly in perspective and light layout.

If you say "no that light right there (one you pick randomly) " don't align...just look left/right/up/down slightly, and you will find the exact (COMPLETELY EXACT in shape/size/color) match for it nearby. The hoaxer's morphed the picture, warped it, making it not totally align by a simple "one stretch".

A typical photoshopper knows what I mean by this.

It is impossible for two pictures taken from from two vantage points (as in the case BEFORE it is stretched, since they don't match at that time) to perfectly align in perspective just by stretching one overly.

It can't work that way.

Like I said, given proper time and attention to both pictures I present, both can be PROVEN to be one and the same.

Leading me to beleive the following-

1) The hoaxers did not have access to a view over Temple Mount, hence why all backgrounds are of popular online photos (save for clip 4, and I'm sure we can find that background online to).

2) The hoaxer speaks herbrew but is not located in Jerusalem.

3) This shows good reason parallax issues arrise (not just because of mirror tile stuff). The background IS NOT really part of the foreground,. It is the picture plainly shown in my little animation above.

PS- Thank you to member " freelance_zenarchist" foranimating my photoshop pics into a usable Gif. I appreciate your time and effort. Thank thank thank you.

MM

Please..!!! This has to be real..!! If it isn't..I've wasted my life..!!

I WON'T ACCEPT HOAX...!

Nice work guys - infinite mirror tiling explains everything away for me now.

Originally posted by HenryJamsAlot
Please..!!! This has to be real..!! If it isn't..I've wasted my life..!!

I WON'T ACCEPT HOAX...!

Ok then, just for you because you asked nicely.

Could everyone please look into this red light

*FLASH*

Thank you, now don't read this thread or investigate this matter. Just accept it as truth.

-m0r

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Why are there blinking lights in if it's a static image?

reply to post by Kali74

And the car in the foreground driving?

Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
reply to post by JPhish

 

I already proved that claim is false on page 116.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

If you look closely the lights suck into each other.... no building can do that...

Try again...

try what again?

being thorough???

excuse me for missing that one post.

sheesh!

I'd like to say hello to everyone..I am new here at ATS but I am certainly not "New" to the UFO phenomenon and I just cannot dismiss these videos as hoaxes until all videographers come forward publicly and admit their asshattery to the world.

I don't know WHAT Or WHO this was but I have an idea...I do know that there may be a reason for this "visitation/inspection"..

Jordanian Generators on Temple Mount found Disturbing

These generators were placed on the Temple Mount on Monday 1/24/11 and the event happens the same week on 1/28/11 on the Sabbath?

It looks like "Someone"(Elohim,Yahweh) who takes great interest in Jerusalem wanted to possibly get a better view at what is going on up there..

Also, I want to see if anyone has noticed in the "4th Video" how there is a great deal of light emitted onto the Dome of the Rock and when IT shoots skyward..The light on the Dome completely disappears..

I find it very intriguing The light seems to go around the Dome with the "Craft" and vanishes with it as it goes light-speed..

Personally,I just cannot dismiss these videos as completely REAL..Considering how inconceivably hard it would be to fake at least three videos

CLIP 4 for those of you still moaning about it.

Is also now officially debunked (not that it wasn't before) but let me just drive one more dagger into its "static heart".

Clip four is not a moving background. It was mistaken to be so due to "three cars moving" in the roads closest to the camera. I can promise a video expert will discover those cars are also added effects just like the video.

Here is the original UFO clip 4-


Now here is the still picture (another popular temple mount pic from online) that was used for the fake background of the clip.
HERE

THIS officially proves that each UFO clip was simply added effects to three of the most popular online images of the temple.

Its done...over...ended.

I have just shown total proof that clip one and two's background is from a stock picture as well as clip 4.

Clip three's background was proven to be this pic- HERE

And now I have proved clip four's background is the picture I present to you here.

Check all details and discover it is truth and indisputable by double talk or lies. It is the pic.

All clips have been faked the same way- fake backgrounds replaced with popular Temple pictures. The end.

Those who fight further should be investigated for being trolls or part of the hoax.

There has never been a need to even go this deep into investigation, the proof was in popular images online all this time. Just slightly distorted.

Then end.



MM

reply to post by Mr Mask



So the most popular overlook areas in Jerusalem cannot be used but for 3 images in the time of all of creation?..

So, your personal analysis can be considered the "End" ?..

I am now a believer..It MUST have been a hoax!..I mean those cars driving along couldn't possibly be real and they just have to be fakes..

It may turn out to be a hoax but I doubt simply because you point out photos from some of the most widely used overlook areas in the city which are more likely used by locals as by tourist..

My point is...The Temple Mount cannot be seen from every area of the city this is why many well known places are used for taking photographs but only time will tell..

I bet there are hundreds if not thousands of similar images which have been taken from these local spots..Not to sound out of place but personally I find your analysis above proves nothing..

One last thing.

There is a very small website that I now visit due to friends having joined it. I do not enjoy having to go there to see what my friends are saying- but alas, one will visit hell itself to commune with those they appreciate most.

Anyways- this post is a word to that site and some people on there (since the site seems very interested in quoting and bashing ATS often).

1) To those saying ATS does bad research...I believe all the breaking evidence that your small site has published, has mostly come from ATS. You have members saying ATS is slipping or missing good research. Well frankly, all other sites have published similar findings hours-to-days after they were first published here. Many even quote ATS research word for word.

2) Your site has time and time again bashed me personally, saying I know nothing of parallax or have no reason to join this investigation. Well, I assure you my understanding of perspective is spot on and polished throughout my entire life of dedication to understanding laws of perspective.

Due to seeing those laws broken, I concluded the backgrounds were fake, along with other ATS users who lead the internet's investigation on this subject.

I have personally just proven two popular images are indeed the images making up those false backgrounds in clips one/two/four- something the laws of perspective told me must be present before I could even find them.

I used my years of daily use of photoshop and my understanding of perspective to help with this investigation and successfully identified the stock images used.

Any experts who have yet to agree those are the pics used, have simply "yet" been able to "see factual evidence for what it is" and probably have less understanding of perspective law and photoshop then I do. In other words- are less qualified to debunk this area of the hoax no matter their individual talents or self proclaimed expertise.

3) A member of yours "SJ" is a liar and a trouble maker. He has admitted to making troll accounts t attack us here and uses your site to brag about his attacks. That is filthy and underhanded on both your behalf.

4) Your site has done nothing to uncover or divulge new or conclusive evidence and has dropped the ball in getting the story debunked in time to say "you helped".

5) You have maybe 5 good members who do great work on your site. You have also acquired a few of our trolls and banished trash-posters. Other than that, you have nothing. Hence why the majority of your site's recent content is simply links here and reposts of information from here.

6) Your site is filled with vulgarity and attacks on dumb people. Yeah, real fun, a site that allows really smart people to stomp on and destroy dumb folks, calling them retarded and inbred. Yeah, wonder why your content is so overlooked by the masses. Its disgusting to see such filth preserved and presented as "content". Your users may think that allowing such talk is productive, but I assure you- T&Cs are far more beneficial to the typical reader's eyes...sure this allows some really dumb folks to post safely, and it gives trolls a defense to post more- but in the long run it also squashes "hate speech" and ignorant bashing of people's intellect and gives EVERYONE a place they can post without typical online-jokesters having the right to abuse those who may not have the critical thinking skills some of you may "brag" about having.

7) You endlessly attack our staff and ATS owners. Your owners are oblivious to running a proper site. They were out of line towards me and everyone from this site, and worthy of personal disgust. Your entire operating membership and staff are past members of ATS...nothing more.

Look...run your site how you see fit, just know that your site is a tiny nonexistent blip on a grander radar of conspiracy sites. You use links to this site so you can leech off the hits that come from here.

You keep speaking my name because you are sad that you are not me.

And frankly, your site sucks.

So please, acknowledge that this site just systematically broke this story apart, piece by piece, before your site, and did so in a way that was quoted by the MSM. Meaning, you did nothing...ATS did great.

Other than that, I have nothing more to say then "enjoy knowing your posts about ATS" are about the only activity you have on your site, and the research being done on your site is a failed comparison to what is going on here.

LASYLY- To those on that site that I miss: I miss you and understand why you left. I just wish there could be a meeting between all those involved and a peace agreed on. I wish there was a way to make all parties involved happy. I don't hate you for thinking I am some sellout or slave to the evil ATS overlords...I simply know a civil land is best...and I can stand a few thousand folks I don't agree with.

I still love you guys...I just think that site sucks.


MM

reply to post by GodsElect


New member...you are wrong.

All backgrounds in all clips have proven to be the three most popular stock images of Temple Mount online.

I have shown you this.

Fighting that logic proves to me something about your reasons for being here.

MM

Originally posted by GodsElect
I'd like to say hello to everyone..I am new here at ATS but I am certainly not "New" to the UFO phenomenon and I just cannot dismiss these videos as hoaxes until all videographers come forward publicly and admit their asshattery to the world.

Many people are sitting in prison convicted of crimes they still refuse to confess to. That is a unrealistic scenario, they did something wrong and shameful and they are in hiding because of it... and they will probably decide to keep it that way. Why tell on yourself? Come on man.

I don't know WHAT Or WHO this was but I have an idea...I do know that there may be a reason for this "visitation/inspection"..

That is a contradicting statement don't you think? If you don't know WHAT Or WHO this was then why would you know the reason for it? Oh do tell

Jordanian Generators on Temple Mount found Disturbing

These generators were placed on the Temple Mount on Monday 1/24/11 and the event happens the same week on 1/28/11 on the Sabbath?

I see no correlation between the two. We have a more then Obvious Hoax, then we have Jordan defacing Israeli landmarks? Two entirely unrelated things besides happening the same week.

It looks like "Someone"(Elohim,Yahweh) who takes great interest in Jerusalem wanted to possibly get a better view at what is going on up there..

Elohim,Yahweh? LOL You are jumping to conclusions. It sounds like your pre conditioned beliefs are colliding with logic in a counter productive way. Wait you said you don't know WHAT Or WHO this was ... umm never mind

Also, I want to see if anyone has noticed in the "4th Video" how there is a great deal of light emitted onto the Dome of the Rock and when IT shoots skyward..The light on the Dome completely disappears..

Yes it was noticed then debunked as a CGI effect nothing more.

I find it very intriguing The light seems to go around the Dome with the "Craft" and vanishes with it as it goes light-speed..

At light speed it would not be visible to the naked eye or video for one thing. It is a fabricated image done by computer software. Where do you come up with light speed? That is not what happened in the video either.

Personally,I just cannot dismiss these videos as completely REAL..Considering how inconceivably hard it would be to fake at least three videos

LOL there are countless CGI hoax videos of UFO's on yt, If a hoaxer can hoax one video he can also hoax 3 videos. In this case all videos are a series of hoaxes coming from a hoax group.

Also how does one dismiss something as real? Are you drunk?

reply to post by Mr Mask
then where did the first three videos come form YT @ ???? so you know the the fourth came from 50nfit which has been deemed a hoax, no augment there but the other 3 where did they come from, go back a few post and you will see i said i had proof well...??