UFO over Jerusalem: CONFIRMED HOAX

Originally posted by laymanskeptic

But you just have to admire how people can sometimes stand their ground. To favor ignorance over hard truth.

Yes sir. I would have it no other way.

Thank you for using your weapons for good and to battle the lies.

Even if you seek the "luz"...you do good work.

MM

Originally posted by soulfox


I used clone stamp extensively and can rule it out. the hoaxer would have to chop that portion and move it left flush to edge, then transform and then mirror the layer cutout. Possible! but highly unlikely.. just to much effort to deliberately shoot your foot off basically!

Clone stamping would actually make more sense if the intent was to fill in that void area when having to fill it because of camera movement. It's def not clone stamp though.. 10 yrs experience talkin

Let me be clear- In photoshop is is called clone stamping. I have no idea what effects guys call this other then what is told to me.

I clone stamp many textures and often flip them to hide the effect better.

I personally don't know how video guys do it...probablly easier with less hassle and a press of a button.

Either way...there yu have about a city block, cloned and reversed and entered into the scene.

Anyone want to tell me this is normal?

MM

Originally posted by Quartza

Those mirror images looks similar but they are not absolute identical, as they should be if it was a clone copy. IMHO and with my time with VFX such an effect would sever no use.

edit on 5-2-2011 by Quartza because: (no reason given)

Answer- No...you are wrong. They are entirely identical. To argue that would be silly.

Second answer- you have been being wrong and ignoring much evidence in support of these vids from the second you joined to talk about them.

Do you take us as fools?

Thanks for joining ATS so recently sir...

Your hoax is served...would you like some wine with that?

MM

I concede... I have defended this video from start till now. I concede defeat. If this was taken from the 1st and original uploaded video. You have me we have been hoaxed.

Originally posted by Mr Mask

Originally posted by Quartza

Those mirror images looks similar but they are not absolute identical, as they should be if it was a clone copy. IMHO and with my time with VFX such an effect would sever no use.

edit on 5-2-2011 by Quartza because: (no reason given)

Answer- No...you are wrong. They are entirely identical. To argue that would be silly.

Second answer- you have been being wrong and ignoring much evidence in support of these vids from the second you joined to talk about them.

Do you take us as fools?

Thanks fr joining ATS so recently sir...

Your hoax is served...would you like some wine with that?

MM

edit on 5-2-2011 by Mr Mask because: (no reason given)

No sir, you are wrong.

Go back and compaire every light blob to its "mirror". They are not pixel perfect exact. Which they should be with such a effect.

I have been countering this "evidence" cause alot has been shaky at best.

Guys watch this video at around the 3:20 mark, it explains exactly how the anomaly became present. (this video find goes to gift, just reposting for people who over looked that page)

Mr Mask, let Quartza be the last one on the sinking ship. He will argue just for the sake of arguing ABOUT arguing.

I think it would be just as easy to provide a day photo of that area to show people that do not understand there is a mirror reverse of that area in particular. Finding a photo from that vantage point may be hard to come by, maybe not. For those of sheer ignorance to disregard these new findings is LOLz. This is what I have been waiting for, the final dagger slowly but surely penetrating the heart in this hoax. It will be a cold reception for those who blatantly have been trying s0 hard derail progress here, actually they will probably go in to hiding like the hoaxers themselves. This cruel and sick hoax has become stagnant thanks to the amazing work here.

I just have funny bone when it comes to BS

EDIT: there is a day video of some tourists in that spot posted here. Maybe that will work?

Originally posted by Quartza

No sir, you are wrong.

Go back and compaire every light blob to its "mirror". They are not pixel perfect exact. Which they should be with such a effect.

I have been countering this "evidence" cause alot has been shaky at best.

No...again, you are wrong.

This is plainly a bad mirrored part of the city cloned and flipped. I do this all the time...cept I actually change the perspective to hide it (sloppy) so it don't become a pyramid out of place. Advantage of doing things painfully and slowly by hand?

Anyways...no...you are wrong and this is surly reused elements mirrored and flipped. ANYONE using any form of editing software long enough to know the buttons on the side of it and their basic functions would recognize this WITHOUT DISPUTE.

In fact, for YOU to argue it would do one of two things-

Prove you are lying about knowing editing software for ten years.

Or prove you are lying to protect the video.

Makes no sense...but I don't think you joined to "make sense".

Am I getting warmer?

MM

I am officially awaiting return word from the staff/owners and their talented graphic artist's.

Until they weigh in on these findings, I am now staying out of this thread (if I can), to help this info stay as close to the end as possible.

I see a case worth resting...enjoy further debunking if you think you must.

But I'm pretty sure this sucker just got killed.

We will see...you guys rock.

For now- Mask out.

MM

reply to post by Unknown Soldier


Please post the video. It's not going to change some people's minds because they will blindly defend this video, but it will hopefully show others who are more open-minded.

Originally posted by Quartza

Originally posted by Mr Mask

Originally posted by Quartza

Those mirror images looks similar but they are not absolute identical, as they should be if it was a clone copy. IMHO and with my time with VFX such an effect would sever no use.

edit on 5-2-2011 by Quartza because: (no reason given)

Answer- No...you are wrong. They are entirely identical. To argue that would be silly.

Second answer- you have been being wrong and ignoring much evidence in support of these vids from the second you joined to talk about them.

Do you take us as fools?

Thanks fr joining ATS so recently sir...

Your hoax is served...would you like some wine with that?

MM

edit on 5-2-2011 by Mr Mask because: (no reason given)

No sir, you are wrong.

Go back and compaire every light blob to its "mirror". They are not pixel perfect exact. Which they should be with such a effect.

I have been countering this "evidence" cause alot has been shaky at best.

Now this, Mr. Mask, is why I've strived to read almost every page in these 2 threads. You see, watching action films don't cut it for me. Even extreme sports don't give me thrills. But this... oh this... is something else... This precise comment is unique in all the world. It is a gem. Never let go of this moment. This comment by Quartza... will stay in my mind... forever...

Quartza... you are precious.

reply to post by Mr Mask

Please explain "bad mirrored part"....when a computer makes a clone....its a clone. My job here...and this site is too show opposing views and discuss them. We have not been doing a effective job of that here.

reply to post by Quartza


Why don't you point out the part that is badly mirrored so we know what you are talking about...

The only bad thing I see (a few pixels) is caused by COMPRESSION of the video. So that would explain away your concerns.

Thank you, have a nice hoax.

Originally posted by Quartza
reply to post by Mr Mask

 

Please explain "bad mirrored part"....when a computer makes a clone....its a clone. My job here...and this site is too show opposing views and discuss them. We have not been doing a effective job of that here.

It has been explained to you...a self admitted veteran of photoshop for ten years.

You will not get the pleasure of hearing it from me again in clearer terms.

Now to prove what people were involved.



And show them the door.

Good luck out there.

Mask out.

MM

reply to post by Unknown Soldier

Is this the same viewpoint?
I know it's cut off just to the left of it, but I think that if that was such a site as a mirrored or identical buildings, that they would of got that into the pic instead of cutting it off.

reply to post by Mr Mask


I await to see this thread put to rest. RIP us defenders we have been beat imo. We did a great job and we made them work and we made them find a damning piece of evidence and this is it to me. I have said you kill 1,2 that kills them all. I say this kills 1.

This effect should not happen it would not. If the pic is a still from the original uploaded footage this is it. The job has been done to find this is a hoax. Face it as much as we would have love for this to be real it is not.

"RIP UFO over Jerusalem: Reopened you were fun"

Originally posted by ExCloud
reply to post by Mr Mask

 

I await to see this thread put to rest. RIP us defenders we have been beat imo. We did a great job and we made them work and we made them find a damning piece of evidence and this is it to me. I have said you kill 1,2 that kills them all. I say this kills 1.

Just know I take no joy in seeing events like these taken away from good people like you.

But I do enjoy seeing hoaxers destroyed.

I did nothing here but spectate and voice my thoughts on other's insight and research, and agree with you- it was fun.

Thanks to all those who killed this ugly beast. Thanks to those insisting more work be done. Both sides of the fence did wonders to push the research further and further.

Wait....I said I was outta here...my bad.

Mask out.

MM

Just checking to see where you have all got to in this thread. Am I correct in saying that video 1&2 are 100% debunked ? If so where does that leave video 4 has the light reflection on the dome that changes as the ufo moves and flikers been explained yet?

sorry DP

Before this thread`s final departure to where it apparently belongs, i would like to add, congratulations, it was great entertainment for the last 2 days, thank you all.

P.S. my favourite comment on youtube: at 0.54 it took a photo, lol

Extratouristrials?