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reply to post by boondock-saint


I can see it being attempted, but to date oin Egypt its still peaceful. Even El Baredi who returned to act as an opposition leader is nbeing listened to, but not followed by the masses.

I think we are seeing something more in depth than what we think. I really do think the people of these countries are 100% done with dictatorships, outside influence in their affairs (we are guilty of that), the hijacking of religion, and the constant pressure to hate anything not middle eastern or Islamic.

I think the Muslim Brotherhood is seeing an opprotunity, but I dont think the people are going to tolerate the dumping of one regime for another.

The manner in which these protests are bein done seem to be evidence of that. For the most part, their demands are clear, and it has not gone down the road of a coup (so to speak). Armed groups are not attempting to overthrow the government with force.

I dont know why, I just think this is something more than what we and other countries groups think it is.

reply to post by h_jordan

As you'e said, the Muslim Brotherhood is a minor player, and it should not be much of an issue for the people of the Middle East to contend with. Internally.

reply to post by h_jordan

Yes, that's pretty true of the news media here too...they film and portray things the way whoever is giving them their paycheck wants them to.

reply to post by FarArcher


Seriously?

Thanks for the laugh. Needed it.

However, I have to agree. When the Muslim Brotherhood starts getting elected to the government here in Georgia and fighter jets start buzzing my house, I'll worry about it.

You're really hung up on names, eh?

My fear is that fundamentalists take over all of the Middle East. If they shutdown the Suez Canal or the Saudi Arabian government falls you can say hello to $6+ a gallon gas here in the United States. If this does occur the stock market will crash here again. This time it may be an unrecoverable crash. As for Monday look for stocks to be down at least 100 points once again since the markets dont like instability. Oil will also spike...probably go up another $4 a barrel and Gold will spike and go up another $20-$25 dollars also. Sad thing is most of these revolutions have been touched off because of lack of good housing and food shortages in all of these middle eastern countries.

Originally posted by Xcathdra
The manner in which these protests are bein done seem to be evidence of that. For the most part, their demands are clear,

their demands will change
when they get hungry enough.
Starvation is a tool in the NWO
playbook and can overshadow
any demands when there is a siege
on staples.

I believe they want the power of there government in their hands and not the U.S. They can’t possibly grow with the great American thumb on them.

Originally posted by BreezeLike
I believe they want the power of there government in their hands and not the U.S.

I am an American
and we want the same thing

but very afraid Soros and company
has other plans

reply to post by boondock-saint

soros
he would be short selling the USD like crazy right about now wouldn't he
which is like firing rockets at your pension funds and sinking your realestate values.
look at the stock market reaction

and he is feeding your derivatives widows and orphans and now whole famillies.

Originally posted by MMPI2

Originally posted by mayabong
reply to post by MMPI2

 

Most of the money never makes it to the people obviously. It goes to the Military and more importantly the Egyptian police that holds the population down through fear. Is this the generosity you are speaking?

well, i have to admit that I didn't realize that there was someone on this thread with a direct view on the internal monetary policy of and distribution of foreign aid within the egyptian government.

i'm assuming that perhaps you are a finance minister, or maybe part of the egyptian diplomatic corp?

Of course....I'm being facetious. My guess is that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, and you pulled those statements right out of your rectum.

By the way, how about getting us some citations and references for your contentions that all of the 38 or so billion dollars given to egypt goes directly to the military and police to "hold the people down through fear."

Right, someone challenges your opinions - so they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about? Wow. That's some kind of perverse logic at play.

There are people on this forum , who want to take usa and uk back 50 years they are trying to incite a race war . please stand united , lets not become divided and conquered .
HUMANITY UNITED against the nwo .

PEACE

Right, someone challenges your opinions - so they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about? Wow. That's some kind of perverse logic at play.

I don't deal in opinion. I deal in fact.

And yes, you are absolutely right. The person to whom you are referring has absolutely no idea what they are talking about. No idea at all.

reply to post by MMPI2

Babbling? Really?

US Paying Pakistan To Kill American Troops! A Crime Of Mammoth Proportions

Who Profited From Arming Egypt?

And just for grins....

Saudi Arabia Slammed Protesters in Egypt as "Infiltrators"

reply to post by TheGhostViking

You can say that again. Unfortunate name for the Muslim Brotherhood. Sent some people salivating again and turning this all religious without giving anyone a chance. Just as they've been conditioned to do. Very interesting to see just who it is pushing the race and/or religious aspect of all this. Again.

Originally posted by mayabong
Sounds like you have alot of fears to me. Even if the government isn't Sharia law, the west media will still spin it to be. Why do you care so much? Because Israel is there?

Pathetic deflection.

Everyone should fear The Muslim Brotherhood taking over the middle east. They have said they don't want peace. They have said they want Sharia law. They have said they want to convert EVERYONE. And no, they are not 'minor players'. They are the spearhead in Egypt. They are putting their puppet on the throne. They have been meeting with Obama here in the USA. They are the incoming power. And they are UGLY.

Get your head out of the sand ... War in the middle east is a BAD thing. Militant fundamentalist muslims holding the Suez Canal is a BAD thing. Why don't you care ?? Is it because you hate Israel and seeing those people destroyed makes it okay that The Muslim Brotherhood will bring death and destruction AND IGNORANCE to the planet? (backatchya)

:shk: ugh.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
And again, this is our business why?

I can't believe you said that. And I can't believe people actually gave that a star.

Listen up .. ... a middle east at war brings EVERYONE in. A Suez Canal blocked by militant fundamentalist muslims causes a financial ripple around the world. A middle east dumbed down to living as they did a thousand years ago effects the entire planets stability. Having those idiots running around saying that 'The Solution is Islam' (which is the Muslim Brotherhood Mantra) .. and having them believe that achieving that through violence is a good thing ... that effects everyone. DUH.

Originally posted by h_jordan
if i had to choose between Mubarak's dictatorship and Islamits as a ruling party then i will not think twice before i choose Mubarak, and this is what will egyptians realize if islamists took over (I really hope not).

EXACTLY. Mubarak is bad but what the Egyptians are getting is going to be worse.

reply to post by MMPI2


So you suggest another interventionist war? Our army is exhausted and the cost is crippling. I vote we just cordone off the area and leave them to it.

reply to post by FlyersFan


israel and the neocon/Zionist factions of the U.S. government may well get their wish and hang on to puppet Mubarak. Israel doesn't want UN or NATO troops in their area. But it's going to be a helluva battle.

Yes I said it. And I'll say it again and again, it's none of our business. It doesn't affect us...this Muslim Brotherhood and their attempts to be heard. They have that right as we have ours to be heard.

Well it's doesn't affect us unless you're a corporation standing to lose billions

Might be just the wake up call we need to get off OPEC oil too and stop sending funds to all those countries so they can buy things from us so the money can go into pockets that already stole our trillions.

Time to get our own house in order.

Oh and I'm not into stars as you and your posse clearly are. Why even bring that up. That's just weird

And again, it's none of our business. Unless you're a corporation standing to lose billions

backatchya. In fact .. double it ... It very much IS our business.

You don't understand basic economics ... if the middle east goes up in a flash of war, our ENTIRE economy will be effected in a VERY bad way. EVERYONE will suffer. EVERYONE. The entire planet. Not 'just' corporations. The corporations take big hits; so people become unemployed; so business' fail; so no one buys anything; so those other business' fail; so banks go under; so more people are out of work; so even less gets purchased; so the few left working now lose those jobs too; etc etc Corporations fail so old people living on pensions go without income - they go hungry and they go cold in the winter from lack of money. Costs of medical care go through the roof .. or we let the old people die. Without money the USA won't be giving aid anywhere. People who were helped through aid will not get it. More starvation and disease around the planet ...

You don't understand basic sociology ... if the middle east is held in the grip of The Muslim Brotherhood - who believes and practices 'Islam is the Solution' ... then they drag the entire middle east backwards a thousand years. Women won't be able to get an education. Women won't be able to drive. Rape victims will be put to death because it will be their fault they were raped. They are militant fundamentalist muslims who won't stop at their own borders to spread Islam through violence if necessary. Have you even read what they do? Have you even read what they believe?

You don't understand basic security ... a middle east full of militant anti-western, anti-woman, anti-basic-human-rights people and who want to spread it around the world .. they are a security threat to us all. They are a threat to intelligence and rational thought around the world.

ATTN: enablers of ignorance .. you need to get educated.
Stop being PC. Stop spewing the pollyanna version of reality.
Seriously .. you are all doing more harm than you can imagine
by supporting these radical fundamentalist groups.

reply to post by FlyersFan


Oh I understand. I just think it's time we fix our mistakes and our country. Sacrifices will have to be made, but we cannot sustain this policy. It's over.

Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by Xcathdra
The manner in which these protests are bein done seem to be evidence of that. For the most part, their demands are clear,

their demands will change
when they get hungry enough.
Starvation is a tool in the NWO
playbook and can overshadow
any demands when there is a siege
on staples.

So the NWO planned and executed the protests in Egypt? And their game plan is to starve the population until they get hungry enough to eat whatever..


check....

reply to post by Xcathdra

I think one faction of the NWO got a surprise. Another is probably thrilled.