The Chinese are Coming, the Chinese Are Coming!!!

reply to post by hawkiye


Good website,informative as hell. I noticed they are building a mega mall in Wisconsin. Nice to see its near Lake Michigan,Second largest fresh water lake in the Nation.

Across the Lake in Michigan..........................

* The Chinese now buy more Michigan products than France and the United Kingdom combined. China is behind only Canada and Mexico as a market for Michigan goods.
* This has been a recent development. In 2000, China had only purchased $212 million in Michigan products. This grew to $1.3 billion in 2009. Michigan is on pace to export more than $2 billion this year.
* Michigan is surpassing national growth rates in trade to China. Total U.S. exports to China rose 35.7 percent for the first half of the year, and Michigan's exports to China rose by 120 percent. Since 2000, total U.S. exports to China rose by 326 percent, while Michigan's exports to China grew by 530 percent.


Should China Stop Buying From Michigan?

Good drinking water,cheep foreclosed homes,owning of America...............

reply to post by Wolfenz


I wouldn't listen to Beck when it comes to economics or foreign affairs...in fact, I wouldn't listen to him for anything but comedy

I'm sorry but does anyone see a convincing correlation here between this situation and World War I?

Officials silently give in and in turn hand over authority for a position of power in the new world?
How many Nazi generals were let into the US for the information they gave?

This sounds like a trade alright.

"We'll give you a piece of land to start your door-to-door invasion from, and in return, when you finally take over, we'll be presidents of so-and-so companies or government elected officials in the new United States of China."

That's just my insight and you can call me crazy if you want. Thanks.

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by hawkiye

 

Good website,informative as hell. I noticed they are building a mega mall in Wisconsin. Nice to see its near Lake Michigan,Second largest fresh water lake in the Nation.

Across the Lake in Michigan..........................

* The Chinese now buy more Michigan products than France and the United Kingdom combined. China is behind only Canada and Mexico as a market for Michigan goods.
* This has been a recent development. In 2000, China had only purchased $212 million in Michigan products. This grew to $1.3 billion in 2009. Michigan is on pace to export more than $2 billion this year.
* Michigan is surpassing national growth rates in trade to China. Total U.S. exports to China rose 35.7 percent for the first half of the year, and Michigan's exports to China rose by 120 percent. Since 2000, total U.S. exports to China rose by 326 percent, while Michigan's exports to China grew by 530 percent.


Should China Stop Buying From Michigan?

Good drinking water,cheep foreclosed homes,owning of America...............

Ahhhhhhhhh RED DAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Red Dawn 2010.com
reddawn2010.com...

Red Dawn' remake to be filmed in Michigan


Will they buy one piece at a time? put factories in ... Creeping up towards an Invasion and Fema Camps around lake Michigan ?

Michigan:

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Kincheloe Correctional Facility (Formerly Kincheloe AFB with B-52 sized runways). Has five large prison buildings able to house 5000+. The facility has about 500 prisoners at this time. Location: 20 miles south of Sault Ste. Marie (Soo Locks) at the eastern end of the Upper Penninsula of Michigan.
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K.I. Sawyer AFB Large construction program has been going on under the name of "Operation Gateway". High security is in place with a large portion of the base closed to civilian view. Location: 20 miles south of Marquette, MI in the Upper Penninsula of Michigan.
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Raco Field Raco field is an interesting facility. The above ground runways form a perfect triangle. Few buildings appear on the surface, but ventilators can be seen. Civilian workers report that a subsurface facility exists. No publicity exists indicating what the role of Raco Field is, although something is there. To observers, it is an "inactive WWII base." Location: 15 miles NW of Kincheloe Correctional Facility on Hwy 28.
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Bark River A large construction operation is ongoing in the Bark River, MI, area. Locals are tight-lipped. The facility is off the main highway in a wilderness area. While most of the locals say that the construction is associated with the ELF (extreme low frequency) project of world-wide communications, others suspect FEMA is involved. (Note: the ELF grid is located 100 miles NE of the Bark River area) Location: 20 miles west of Escanaba in the upper penninsula of Michigan.
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Bay City Sits on Saginaw Bay which connects to Lake Huron. This facility has high fencing, barbed wire and guard towers.
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Grayling Camp Grayling Michigan National Guard Base. Detention facility. Guards towers, razor wire.
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Southwest area of the state FEMA Detention facility
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Central part of the state FEMA Detention facility
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Detroit FEMA Detention facility

Source:
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...



FEMA Concentration Camps
www.flyingsnail.com...

Photos Of Detention Camp
In Michigan Woods?
www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...

Training hmmm for POW's ok or is it for Determent Camps too.?

Dear Mr. Smith: Our web master has forwarded your question about Camp Grayling to me. The "camps" you are referring to are used by our Military Police for training. One of their war-time missions is to process and care for prisoners of war (POWs). The photos you saw are of that training site. If you have any other questions about Camp Grayling, the Michigan National Guard or any of our training, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Sincerely, 1st Lt. Dawn Dancer
Deputy Public Affairs Officer Dept. of Military & Veterans Affairs Michigan National Guard
(517) 483-5813 DSN 623-0813

anyone want to call that number ? and ask if its for determent camps too?
Detroit FEMA Detention facility
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Well im not sure if China can get a hold of these protected sites!
that the The UN Protects! and who knows what the UN can hide in the... National Parks

United Nations Environment Programme Link:Conservation Commons. Image:© Charles Besançon
World Conservation Monitoring Centre
www.unep-wcmc.org...

reply to post by Shikamaru


Done: You're crazy

The FTZ are still US soil, in no way is it China's soil...so you can relax

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Shikamaru

 

The FTZ are still US soil, in no way is it China's soil...so you can relax

Just because you repeat something over and over does not mean it is true. If it US soil then things manufactured there would not be imports. Imports only come from foreign soil. Everything manufactured there is considered an import according to the law. Hence it is foreign soil!

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Wolfenz

 

I wouldn't listen to Beck when it comes to economics or foreign affairs...in fact, I wouldn't listen to him for anything but comedy

you totally missed the point ! I KNOW what BECK IS

Im talking about what he said about FEMA camps that he could NOT Debunk them! after a LONG research of them and the Empty Prisons ! that do Exist !!built from the Bush Administration !
then later he said he could ! and they dont exist just hours before he said they did !
he was shut up.... by someone ! in Power ....

and i Do listen to HIM! I Just Listen to his SPIN and IGNORANCE ! with Laughter!
Comedy as you would say!

Originally posted by hawkiye

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Shikamaru

 

The FTZ are still US soil, in no way is it China's soil...so you can relax

Just because you repeat something over and over does not mean it is true. If it US soil then things manufactured there would not be imports. Imports only come from foreign soil. Everything manufactured there is considered an import according to the law. Hence it is foreign soil!

ITEMS have a special status in FTZ, NOT people!! It IS US soil, and US laws apply, not Chinese law, not Senegalese law, not Sharia....US LAW! It is US soil

Don't believe me, go to a FTZ, kick in a window...and then see which cops come to pick you up

I'm just repeating it because you refuse to accept reality

reply to post by hawkiye



This thread still going may i suggest too you hawkiye to read this link your barking but in reality its been happening since the 1800's geez man get a grip.

oh edit 3.5 million Chinese already in your country mate from a source in 2007, search ya self mate, pull out ya guns they are coming in droves

Wal

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Shikamaru

 

Done: You're crazy

The FTZ are still US soil, in no way is it China's soil...so you can relax

It doesn't matter who's "soil" it is, our own government apparently does plenty of shocking things on US soil. The Chinese with no real allegiance to the United States cannot be expected to do any better than the US government. The Chinese are creative and crafty, quite an original way to take over a country (in due time) if you ask me. The Chinese plan things hundreds of years in advance, it is no secret that they have aspirations to overtake us as a superpower. They will have their way with us, mark my words.

reply to post by bigrex


Yeah, but the FTZ have nothing to do with it. There's ZERO difference between a foreign company coming to the US and doing business, and them doing it at a FTZ...apart from special tax status for their products/services as an incentive to lure them in. Again, it's to create JOBS!!

I really fail at seeing why anyone could argue against more jobs in the current climate...it's misplaced patriotism that makes people look incredibly silly given the fact that it does something good for the economy.

And before you say "what about US companies?"...look up how much taxes Microsoft paid last year as an incentive for having their HQ at the west coast

reply to post by MindSpin


This maybe the case. But China somehow takes FULL ADVANTAGE and EXPLOITATION over every situation such as this. Take FIJI as an example. With little morals

As for Australia this was a concern and still is. Now many Chinese companies are going for all the farms 'Securing milk supplies' they say.
So the government is now looking at restricting the amount of land that foreign owners/companies can obtain.

reply to post by crackerjack

So the government is now looking at restricting the amount of land that foreign owners/companies can obtain.

oh really robbo, what was that years ago all the japs buying up sh^t on the gold coast. dont worry fellow Australian our laws are in place

and i will add if we did this right they can buy the farms, i bet 95% of farmers would sell, now ask a farmer if i am right

Wal

Seems to me the Chinese have learnt from the American military, who set up a base, then import everything they need from the states, even gas, so no money is spent in the local area, and all personnel are American, even shop workers, what goes around, comes around?

Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by MindSpin

 

It doesn't matter who they were set up for Communist China who admits they are setting up for war in all directions is the one who will be taking advantage of them. the law you quoted is outdated there is a new one in my links.

Originally posted by NoRegretsEver
Good business is when you can call debts. We have been in debt for far to long. If they call on their debt fully, most people will be in trouble, we have no base on the numbers.

Peace, NRE.

We do not owe the debt the federal government does and it is bogus they have no right to give China sovereign states soil to pay their bad gambling debts. I am telling you if people ignore this like they do everything else we are screwed for sure!

Normally, I'd write this off as xenophobic paranoia but... you bring up an excellent point. Even if this goes no farther than some innocent pandering to the Chinese government by the Fed... it's still the Fed using State land for brownie points. I've always been a little resentful of the "United States" being considered our nation when our individual States are supposed to be sovereign nations and the "U.S." part is supposed to function more like the E.U.

Anyway, yeah... I can see why you would be a bit alarmed. Personally, I don't hold any more loyalty to the Federal Reserve then I do to the Chinese government but I'm always a little pissed when I'm sold out like that. I just wish we could go back to being independent States (you know that in the rest of the world, "state" means nation, right?)...with the exception of a couple of states, we would all be just fine and NONE of us would be in a war right now in the Middle East. Sorry, you got me on a side-rant. I'll go back to sleep now.

Originally posted by MrXYZ

Originally posted by hawkiye

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Shikamaru

 

The FTZ are still US soil, in no way is it China's soil...so you can relax

Just because you repeat something over and over does not mean it is true. If it US soil then things manufactured there would not be imports. Imports only come from foreign soil. Everything manufactured there is considered an import according to the law. Hence it is foreign soil!

ITEMS have a special status in FTZ, NOT people!! It IS US soil, and US laws apply, not Chinese law, not Senegalese law, not Sharia....US LAW! It is US soil

Don't believe me, go to a FTZ, kick in a window...and then see which cops come to pick you up

I'm just repeating it because you refuse to accept reality

LOL holy crap, I can't believe how many times it needs to be said, since 1934 we've had this, people just find things and start freaking out and pass their misinterpretation as truth.

Glorious, I remember why i stopped coming to this site... I guess fear mongering is fun for some people.

So, reviewing the OP's links, much of what is written seems to give the idea that they are creating jobs. Yet, the OP states that China will in effect be increasing it's ability to more permanently overtake our jobs through substituting their slave labor on our soil. It might help the OP to better make his point by posting more links to support his conclusions (which I think may very well be right, but I would like to better verify it).

I was surprised that people were actually questioning him so vigorously and were "on the side" of China, until I perused his links. If they exist or are accessible, it would like to see more documentation of plans for the Chinese logistics of coming on to US soil for the express purpose of creating goods that we are supposed to purchase, or at least legislation authorizing and detailing their proposal.

It could very well be that I need to more thoroughly scour the OP's links, but a cursory run-through gives me the impressions I have referred to. What time frame are we talking about here?

I know my father mentioned in our Church he read of someone who had visited China and made friends over there. This person received a communication from one of his Chinese friends stating that lots of them would be coming over here and maybe he would see some of the again. That comment seems to allude to something like what is outlined in this thread.

Originally posted by MindSpin
Foreign Trade Zones have been around for a long time.

www.foreign-trade-zone.com...

The U.S. Foreign-Trade Zones program was created by the Foreign-Trade Zones Act of 1934.

And they aren't exclusively for China...you make it sound like these were set up recently and only for China to use.

And that is just flat out false.

Yeah. I looked at it in my state. Indonesians! Facebook accounts too. Except the only thing they post is who they are friends with>>>"all friends" have the same website link in their info...HUH? And they all post coded crap that google translator doesn't even recognize.

This is some fishy smelling carp...I spelled it right

reply to post by bigrex


I have responded to every objection and posted more links and quotes from the links, but the detractors refuse to address them and keep posting the same non sense over and over hoping it will stick. Read the rest of the thread or at least my posts on it, and follow the links, I posted the actual law too, and listen to the audio.

I am right on this one but to many Americans can't get past their mental laziness and denial unless everything is handed to them on a platter and even then they still just deny it. I hate to say it but after posting this thread if the response is any indication, we are screwed because there are to many lazy unpatriotic selfish worthless oxygen thieves in America dragging us all down into thier slimy pit of self absorbed hell while our once great country burns. Sorry but that is the way it is.

reply to post by auswally


Well. I think Australian's view the two countries differently and therefore have different views. Sure I'm sure a farmer will accept money for his land from anyone at the right price, think of the future when they have to buy powdered milk from a company and no longer can obtain fresh milk. Oop's they sold us out.

The Australian Government (based in Canberra, Australia’s capital city) is aware of the fact that some of Australia’s citizens are cautious about foreign individuals or companies buying residential real estate (defined as all Australian real property, including vacant land). It wants to ensure that the foreign real estate ownership it does allow is of benefit to the community and in keeping with the community needs. Therefore, the Australian Government insists that all applications from foreign citizens or companies to buy residential real estate (either already developed - such as houses and apartments - to be developed, to be redeveloped or existing only at plan stage) are put before the Foreign Investment Review Board (FIRB), one of its advisory boards.

www.australia-migration.com...


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