The Chinese are Coming, the Chinese Are Coming!!!

Originally posted by MrXYZ

Originally posted by hawkiye

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Shikamaru

 

The FTZ are still US soil, in no way is it China's soil...so you can relax

Just because you repeat something over and over does not mean it is true. If it US soil then things manufactured there would not be imports. Imports only come from foreign soil. Everything manufactured there is considered an import according to the law. Hence it is foreign soil!

ITEMS have a special status in FTZ, NOT people!! It IS US soil, and US laws apply, not Chinese law, not Senegalese law, not Sharia....US LAW! It is US soil

Don't believe me, go to a FTZ, kick in a window...and then see which cops come to pick you up

I'm just repeating it because you refuse to accept reality

PROVE IT.

I have posted the law, and quotes and an Audio, this has been researched the cops cannot come in there unless invited. ITEMS cannot be imported unless they are from a foreign country. All items from FTZs are considered imports FROM A FOREIGN COUNTRY. I have explained why your answers are retarded I will not do it anymore as as you just keep repeating the same non-sense over and over like the rain man.

Listen to the audio folks and read the page it is on republicbroadcasting.org...

reply to post by Cuervo


Sorry matey but in Australia "state" does not mean nation,I live in the state of Victoria in the nation of Australia,and yes we are part of the rest of the world,Do you think if the US was 50 or so independent nations you guys would be a superpower? highly doubtful i think,

May hit a nerve here but when you create so much debt, inevitably the debt collectors will come calling. Before the US of A would have just went to war and destroied all their creditors or distracted the masses and getting themselves out of a recession by killing and making bombs, but now they have woken a sleeping giant and its coming for its rightful territory. The great US of A is no longer the strongest on this planet, i'm afraid the days of the USA beating up everyone else are over and it has no choice to do this or face its destruction at the hands of China, because we all no if the USA and China go to war...big old angry Russia will be there to coax on China and aid them in whatever they need, be that tanks, men or a few thousand nukes!!!

The American Dream was only ever a dream, its time to wake up!

Originally posted by hawkiye
America while you slept you have been sold to China!

This made me laugh so hard I nearly s**t myself

How can the Federal government give to a foreign country something that is not theirs? They do not and can not own land, they are just a body that is in place to mediate with other foreign governments.

Why do we owe money to any one country or to anyone for that matter?

Money is a man-made "false idol" that provides nothing but control for TPTB to keep us in a form of fiefdom. Why do we need money is what I am saying, there is no need for it other than separating people into different classes. Money is what's is fueling most crime anywhere in the world!

What this is doing is just plain wrong and the Federal government needs to be removed now and replaced with "State" representatives as it should be.

I am done with listening to everyone complain about what the federal government is and has been doing and it's is time we stand up to them and take back OUR COUNTRY!

This is the final straw and it's time for you to all stop saying yea someone needs to do something. Let's do it now! Talk to all your friends and family, send emails to everyone you know and let's take it back from these people. Tell them to write their state representatives and Governors and demand that this be stopped, that the Federal government will not be allowed to do anything with their states land.

You can PM me anytime and I am 100% serious about this now! This can be done and there will be no way that with enough of us we can't return this country to the way it was and maybe other countries will see what we are doing and do the same.

We are all humans and live on this planet together and it's time we stop fighting. I guarantee that with all these blow-holes that have been destroying the world for far too long now are taken out of the picture then we can get along.

I think they never come that far.. Because the if you look at the history books the US has been founded by Europeans and later at the 1800 century the Chinese came in so if you look at that then you've already been invaded by the Chinese.

And I think If these American Chinese would have to choose I expect that they will choose the US so it could be insult to the majority of the Chinese thats living in harmony with other Americans to say that Chinese are infiltrating.

So I don't think that something like that will happen in my opinion. You can also look at it positive way maybe they can help the US to a better economy by creating jobs and new kinds of agriculture ?

We also have a lot of Chinese people in our country and I mostly find them very friendly hard working and social people.
No complains about them.

there are always good and bad people in every culture or race and trust honesty can win a lot good souls

Originally posted by jrmcleod
May hit a nerve here but when you create so much debt, inevitably the debt collectors will come calling. Before the US of A would have just went to war and destroied all their creditors or distracted the masses and getting themselves out of a recession by killing and making bombs, but now they have woken a sleeping giant and its coming for its rightful territory. The great US of A is no longer the strongest on this planet, i'm afraid the days of the USA beating up everyone else are over and it has no choice to do this or face its destruction at the hands of China, because we all no if the USA and China go to war...big old angry Russia will be there to coax on China and aid them in whatever they need, be that tanks, men or a few thousand nukes!!!

The American Dream was only ever a dream, its time to wake up!

Days of USA beating up everyone?
You forget we feed half of the dam planet.

So how do you think China and Russia will get these tanks to America? No mater what our economy is doing it is still the biggest and our military is the most powerful by far. China has a population of 1,331,460,000 and only a 7 trillion dollar economy. America has 311,000,000 and a economy of 14 trillion.
Then you forgot we have allies throughout the world. So go take your theory and present it to a kindergarten class because they are the only ones that would buy into it.

I am sick of these fearmongering threads made by people still clinging on to America being the biggest world power. Get used to it! China will be the next super power. Did you expect america to saty on top forever? History tells you that power shifts from one country to another. As for the link the OP has posted, seems like alot of twisting of words just so they can spread more BS.

reply to post by IncognitoGhostman


You know, when you say "why do we owe anybody anything" it made me sad for your understanding of history.

But you are right about the money thing, although money was vital for the past, but now we have the technology to replace about 97% of all human workforce on the planet, which we could not do 50 years ago.

I do not think china would be happy at all if we just told them "hey USA is becoming enlightened and wants to save the world by destroying money, so were not paying you the trillions we owe you"

I would expect a response something like this "you coward americans, ITS WAR"

America is not the top dog anymore, but our army is a bit more hardened than the Chinese armies, considering we have more combat exp, more technology in use IE advanced tanks, aircraft,squad equipment.

I think if China started the war, we would be on the defensive and face a massive naval invasion, followed by offshore bombardment followed by aircraft carriers, likely Russia will help China out.

I think our forces if used strategically could severely damage their front invasion, considering the invading force faces disadvantages to invasion by being away from home,stress, the food supply must be maintained to feed their massive amount of mouths, and the moral of the soldiers would fall dramatically I think when the first death toll starts.

Then if they even establish a foothold on our land, they would be constantly bombarded and pelted by aircraft and artillery, then that is not even including the peoples army that would amass wherever the invasion begins, that in itself is a major factor because there will be millions ready to defend this country with personal firearms.

I just hope that both sides are evolved enough to not consider using nuclear weapons, then it does not matter how many people each side has

reply to post by blangger

Days of USA beating up everyone?
You forget we feed half of the dam planet.

So how do you think China and Russia will get these tanks to America? No mater what our economy is doing it is still the biggest and our military is the most powerful by far. China has a population of 1,331,460,000 and only a 7 trillion dollar economy. America has 311,000,000 and a economy of 14 trillion.
Then you forgot we have allies throughout the world. So go take your theory and present it to a kindergarten class because they are the only ones that would buy into it.

You think that China does not have any allies? For a start, they have russia. Just them two countries alone, America would not stand a chance. Anyways, people seem to forget that it would not be a normal war, it would be a world war, and with the weapons we have, im sure it would be a war to end all wars.

Originally posted by blangger

Originally posted by jrmcleod
May hit a nerve here but when you create so much debt, inevitably the debt collectors will come calling. Before the US of A would have just went to war and destroied all their creditors or distracted the masses and getting themselves out of a recession by killing and making bombs, but now they have woken a sleeping giant and its coming for its rightful territory. The great US of A is no longer the strongest on this planet, i'm afraid the days of the USA beating up everyone else are over and it has no choice to do this or face its destruction at the hands of China, because we all no if the USA and China go to war...big old angry Russia will be there to coax on China and aid them in whatever they need, be that tanks, men or a few thousand nukes!!!

The American Dream was only ever a dream, its time to wake up!

Days of USA beating up everyone?
You forget we feed half of the dam planet.

So how do you think China and Russia will get these tanks to America? No mater what our economy is doing it is still the biggest and our military is the most powerful by far. China has a population of 1,331,460,000 and only a 7 trillion dollar economy. America has 311,000,000 and a economy of 14 trillion.
Then you forgot we have allies throughout the world. So go take your theory and present it to a kindergarten class because they are the only ones that would buy into it.

Yeah sure china has a smaller economy but you forget they are the ones that are prospering in these times while America is nearly on the verge of no return.

China has more personnel, more gold, more merchant marine personnel, a far bigger Army, a slightly smaller Air Force and Navy. The fact still remains that a War between the two nations IMO would leave the USA worse off in far more ways that one. You would be left with little economical power (not that your in good shape just now), the USA in my opinion would not be able to invade China, and i dont think China would invade the USA but even if the USA used its aircraft carriers next to China, Russia wouldnt be happy with it and i'm quite sure NK would be happy to help out China. I'd rather have the allies that China has in my opinion than those the USA has because if your reffering to the Allies of the US being the EU nations etc, i dont think they'd jump at the chance of WWIII, to be honest.



Too many times has the US allies helped them out and been left off in worse situations, just look at Iraq...the US isnt as favourable as it once was and i think the world has grasped that idea because the consumerist based economy that you have isnt being sustained at the degree it once was.

I think its funny how quick people are to doubt our own militarys intelligence...All this fear mongerings incredibly funny when it comes to China they may have nukes an icbm's and a bigger standing army, but our military's known that forever, thats why we invest so much in technology...Think about it this way they have 1 lol I repeat 1 possible stealth fighter thats untested and re-versed engineered from our old 4th Gen Fighter...We Have Hundreds of Stealth Fighters And Bombers possibly 6th gen prototypes..and god knows how much chemical an biological agents. Basically we can swiftly and silently destroy any country given a reason to engage in that typa warfare...(which I Hope Never Happens)

reply to post by Quasar_La-Zar


Good post but you forgot 2 important points. The chinese army may not have asmuch combat experience but they do have a desire abot them to be the next big thing and they know it, nationalism is a big thing in China. The second point you forgot is just how many nukes the Russians have and i'm sure that Cold War itch is just 'itching' to come back.

reply to post by ArieZ


Yes the US is still a major player but if WWIII doenst break out in the next decade i'd say that China will overtake the US and have just as sophisticated weaponary as you do. You may have Stealth Bombers but you cant take out a country the size of China without a retaliation. I hope it never comes to WWIII aswell but what i do know is that i'd rather have 22,000 nukes and over a million soldiers than a few stealth bombers!

Originally posted by hawkiye
I see the don't worry be happy crowd is out in force and have failed to answer the question below refuse to read the whole OP. What a sad day in America when her own people will try and rationalize her take over by a foreign power as we deserve it or there is nothing to worry about:

"So what is with all the "don't worry be happy" crowd? Are you telling me your ok with China building multiple bases in all 50 states? And that means more then one in each state. 3 are planned for Idaho. They will have thier own labor force and little if any American oversight or regulation etc. the only thing they will have is Customs is supposed to check what comes out onto American soil for sale and for duties. this is the same China that has sent us tainted products and baby food etc. "

Building bases? That implication is far from accurate.

Besides, MindSpin (amongst others) has already proven countless times throughout this entire thread that FTZs are not what you're claiming they are in the OP, and that there's absolutely nothing to worry about. You, on the other hand, have simply failed to produce any valid information related to this "Chinese takeover of the US" you think is occurring. Instead, you keep resorting back to your hatred toward some "don't worry, be happy" crowd. You keep telling people to read your links when it's quite apparent that they already have. You've been given direct quotes from your own sources that argue against the entire point you're trying to make. You should handle that first, before resorting back to being defensive. Or better yet, just show us something that can correlate your belief of a "Chinese takeover" with the facts that you've provided in your own OP. Just my 2c. There's some great information in this thread, regardless of the intent.

Cheers,
Strype

Very True...but I would think being the most fertile land and basically the worlds food supply they'd realize that Nuclear strikes would basically waste exactly what they're hoping to gain...I'd be willing to wager our military has a pretty advanced anti icbm defense system, but they have no reason to play they're trump card till needed.

Don't This open the flood gates for uncover companies like Triads?

China has more personnel, more gold, more merchant marine personnel, a far bigger Army, a slightly smaller Air Force and Navy. The fact still remains that a War between the two nations IMO would leave the USA worse off in far more ways that one. You would be left with little economical power (not that your in good shape just now), the USA in my opinion would not be able to invade China, and i dont think China would invade the USA but even if the USA used its aircraft carriers next to China, Russia wouldnt be happy with it and i'm quite sure NK would be happy to help out China. I'd rather have the allies that China has in my opinion than those the USA has because if your reffering to the Allies of the US being the EU nations etc, i dont think they'd jump at the chance of WWIII, to be honest.



Too many times has the US allies helped them out and been left off in worse situations, just look at Iraq...the US isnt as favourable as it once was and i think the world has grasped that idea because the consumerist based economy that you have isnt being sustained at the degree it once was.

edit on 31/1/11 by jrmcleod because: (no reason given)

America has over 8,000 tons of gold, China has just over 1,000 en.wikipedia.org...

"America has about twice as many aircraft carriers as the rest of humanity combined, and America's aircraft carriers are substantially larger than almost all the other's aircraft carriers.www.globalsecurity.org...

China has maybe one en.wikipedia.org... which is a old one.

Yes, IMO the whole world will be worse off if we did go to war with them.

Originally posted by hawkiye

Read the whole OP please before commenting people.

This is no joking matter folks, they will be given thier own sovereign territory to set up manufacturing at slave wages not hiring Americans but importing thier own slave labor from China. And it is tax free for them not you. This isn't about Chinese restaurants and junk shops folks this is serious treason allowing them to set up shop on our soil and manufacture here they won't need to ship weapons here now they will make them right under our noses. This is a trojan horse take over. Wake up!

Wasn't this the Illuminati's plan all along? To be able to have foreign troops in America to be able to take over America and kill the American people. All the while our own troops are overseas being killed so that they can't defend us here.

They created the perfect Trojan horse by allowing China to build small towns that probablly no one will be allowed in or out of, except for the delivery of food and other necessities. That is unless those are manufactured or flown in from main land China.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the US government pick up its pace on the anti-gun movement. Look for more black ops here to gear more people towards thinking guns are bad such as more school shootings, employees going ballistic shooting everyone, shootings on military bases, and they may even come up with some new ideas.

Neither should we overlook the idea that China is in economic warfare, and they just stepped up their game on that front. They have manufacturing plants over here, and sell their items so cheap that no one can undercut them. Will tariffs, embargo, and all that jazz still be enforced, or is the government going to look the other way on all of it? If China does this, will they continue to try to poison the American people? Also, it seems they will not have to submit to all the environmental laws. How much pollution will they produce? Will you even want to live near a place that produces so much pollution? Who wants to be the government will blame the American people and businesses on the extra pollution, and pass even more bills to suppress and hurt us.

I understand we need to take care of the environment, and we need to do what is possible. At the same time we don't need to be hurting our businesses and jobs to the extent that they will all practically have to disappear because the rules are too strict. If one wants to take over America, I'm sure they would make that a goal also.

It may end up that China is going to go to war with America on many different fronts. When exactly will all this happen? Who knows. Do I want to be around for it? No. Will I have to be? Yes, if in my lifetime. Is there anything I can really do? Not that I see.

Then again I do believe Armageddon is going to come, and no one is going to be able to stop it. I believe in the Bible and in Revelations when it says that the anti-Christ who is also known as the red dragon is going to rise up, and who can be able to stop him? Paraphrased of course.

reply to post by hawkiye


China is not a Communist country it is State Capitalist, like the USSR was and North Korea.