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So with you it is all semantics and the question at hand means nothing because you can not answer it.
Originally posted by Helmkat
Originally posted by Battleline
reply to post by Helmkat
A good point "forced" may be a wrong choise of words at least for you.Why is that children are being taught in various school's that Gay sex is normal when the majority of parent's do not want there kid's subjected to this at a young age.
If the minority "puts" some thing on the majority without consent of the majority or really not even haveing a say in the matter then what is it?
The old adage of "gay's in the closet" is just plain stupid,it has not been that way for many year's now.
Sex education in schools is really a whole different subject if you ask me. If you don't like what your school is teaching there are many avenues people can take to remove their children from the class.
Anyway I think the issue is again terminology. In this case the use of the word "normal". When I see "normal" used as you and many others have it seems to imply that any sex that does not end with the potential for procreation is not "normal". That is a very antiquated view of sex from where I sit, teenage boys must be very "abnormal". What about Hetero couples who use the rythmn method? is that abnormal? What about couples where one or more partners are infertile? Their sex can never lead to children, where does this notion of "normal" fit with them?
Normal is a trap that wants to narrow the spectrum of human sexuality.
Originally posted by G.A.G.
Walking through the grocery store, back in the mid 1980's as a single dad with his only son... 5 years old he sees two guys holding hands and asks me, Daddy, why are those two boys holding hands? WHAT? Because I have no clue about the gay lifestyle, I was dumfounded and at somewhat of a loss for words
Originally posted by G.A.G.
I could have said that they are fags, but a 5yr old knows little about words "love or fags"
Originally posted by Helmkat
•In behavior, normal refers to a lack of significant deviation from the average.
That's one definition I guess but it is obvious you will continue to spin away from the question with semantics and push the idea that two wrong's make it right.
Originally posted by Helmkat
•In behavior, normal refers to a lack of significant deviation from the average. The phrase "not normal" is often applied in a negative sense (asserting that someone or some situation is improper, sick, etc.) Abnormality varies greatly in how pleasant or unpleasant this is for other people.reply to post by Battleline
There is no sex act that I am aware of that Homosexuals practice that is not also practiced in the Heterosexual community.
Thus the only difference is Gender match up.
I would say that is not a significant enough deviation from the "average" to warrent as abnormal, especially when you take into account bi-sexuality.
Originally posted by Helmkat
Well at least we know where you stand, even if I disagree with you lumping Homosexuals in the same camp as pedophiles and beastiality.
Originally posted by SevenBeans
Originally posted by Helmkat
•In behavior, normal refers to a lack of significant deviation from the average.
A man rejecting every woman on earth because he prefers to only pursue other men as sexual partners is a very significant deviation from the average. Come on people... it IS abnormal (not that there's anything wrong with that).
Originally posted by Battleline
There is no sex act that I am aware of that Homosexuals practice that is not also practiced in the Heterosexual community.
Thus the only difference is Gender match up.
I would say that is not a significant enough deviation from the "average" to warrent as abnormal, especially when you take into account bi-sexuality.
Originally posted by Helmkat
See but the argument is wrong. I am Gay but I have had sex with women. I know men who are Gay but are married to women.
You want to make something that is every shade of grey into something that is black and white. Not going to happen.
Originally posted by Battleline
That's one definition I guess but it is obvious you will continue to spin away from the question with semantics and push the idea that two wrong's make it right.
Originally posted by Helmkat
•In behavior, normal refers to a lack of significant deviation from the average. The phrase "not normal" is often applied in a negative sense (asserting that someone or some situation is improper, sick, etc.) Abnormality varies greatly in how pleasant or unpleasant this is for other people.reply to post by Battleline
There is no sex act that I am aware of that Homosexuals practice that is not also practiced in the Heterosexual community.
Thus the only difference is Gender match up.
I would say that is not a significant enough deviation from the "average" to warrent as abnormal, especially when you take into account bi-sexuality.
Good debate but no answer..................moveing on.
Originally posted by SevenBeans
Originally posted by Helmkat
See but the argument is wrong. I am Gay but I have had sex with women. I know men who are Gay but are married to women.
You want to make something that is every shade of grey into something that is black and white. Not going to happen.
So?
Most gay men reject women as potential sexual partners because they aren't attracted to them. The fact that you've had sex with a woman means nothing and my point stands. You're apparently not sexually attracted to women, only to men, which is abnormal.
Originally posted by Helmkat
And to you Abnormal automatically=Wrong.
Originally posted by G.A.G.
reply to post by SubPop79
You could have said "because they love each other." Or I could have said that they are fags, but a 5yr old knows little about words "love or fags"