Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

Originally posted by jaynkeel
reply to post by Southern Guardian

 

Please it would take all of 10 minutes out of anyones time

It will not take 10 minutes to kill this birther conspiracy or any other wacko conspiracy (anti-christ and co) that lies out there about this president. You know this full well.

Don't try to dramatize it.

I am the one dramatizing this birther issue? Ok.

And how many times in the past have people asked to see the long form from prior presidents?

Exactly. But hey, I get it. This one is different to you all. Gotcha!

reply to post by Southern Guardian


OK so you can pull my text and separate it and pull it apart to answer it and treat it like a joke. Gotcha. Now can you answer the questions asked?

reply to post by Southern Guardian

Exactly. But hey, I get it. This one is different to you all. Gotcha!

It is actually VERY different..
The last few Presidents came from very well known families in the US..
Their births were probably covered by TV, Newspapers and Magazines..
Pretty hard to hide the birth of a Bush or a Kennedy..

Obama came from nowhere..
We know so little of his or his families past..
I doubt his birth raised much attention on MSM like a Bush or a Kennedy..

reply to post by backinblack


Thank You Backinblack.

Originally posted by backinblack
It is actually VERY different..
The last few Presidents came from very well known families in the US..

Yep, it all depends on what you choose to believe and what you don't. The truth is, none of us here will ever no for certain about our presidents. We take what is given, we can choose to research, and we take what we have. You choose to believe what is there for the other presidents but not for this one, and you offer little more beyond your own assumption.

Their births were probably covered by TV, Newspapers and Magazines..

ah yes, probably you say. My point above.

WND is a Joke of a website. They have been spewing birther jizz since day 1.

I would ask anyone reading ANYTHING that uses WND as a source, to DYODD on them.

It is not just the birther issue, it is everything they ever write about.. It is filled with some of the most disgusting "journalism" i have ever had the displeasure to read. Big time lies from WND. Just do a search.

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by Southern Guardian

You choose to believe what is there for the other presidents but not for this one, and you offer little more beyond your own assumption.

Really?? There is abundant information out there on say Bush, Clinton or Kennedy..
There is next to nothing on Obama..
It's all locked away..

Tell ya what SG, we'll take turns..
I'll post information on the Bush family, you post information on the Obama family..
We'll see who runs out of information first...OK??

A grey alien riding nessie carrying the holy grail will appear before obamas birth certificate ever does...
Obamas birth certificate ( a real one ) has to be the most elusive item in the universe...

Originally posted by Expat888
Obamas birth certificate ( a real one ) has to be the most elusive item in the universe...

Except a quick search finds that it has been posted on the net.... so it is not elusive at all!

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by Expat888
Obamas birth certificate ( a real one ) has to be the most elusive item in the universe...

Except a quick search finds that it has been posted on the net.... so it is not elusive at all!

Ohh BS...It's an extract..
It's like saying there are 200000 original Mona Lisa's out there..
There isn't...

You need the ORIGINAL to see the full detail...

Originally posted by backinblack
Ohh BS...It's an extract..

It is a valid birth certificate, accepted for anything a birth certificate is needed for - something the birthers ignore!

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by backinblack
Ohh BS...It's an extract..

It is a valid birth certificate, accepted for anything a birth certificate is needed for - something the birthers ignore!

What does the long form have on it that the other doesnt? I havent looked at one since we applied for our last passports I think!

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by backinblack
Ohh BS...It's an extract..

It is a valid birth certificate, accepted for anything a birth certificate is needed for - something the birthers ignore!

Not quite right..

When the certification does include the names of the parents, it can be used in lieu of a long form birth certificate in almost all circumstances

"in ALMOST all circumstances"

You get what the "ALMOST" means right??

Also, the long form "original" has the delivering doctors name..

Originally posted by backinblack
Obama came from nowhere..

You say that as if he was summoned here from another dimension in a Skull and Bones blood ritual.

He came from the United States.

We know so little of his or his families past..
I doubt his birth raised much attention on MSM like a Bush or a Kennedy..

What does that have to do with these claims that he was not born in the Unites States?
Is that the default assumption when you know little about the past of a President?

It's not simply that people know so little about his family past, it's that they don't BELIEVE what he said about it.

If it was simply a matter of ignorance, just pick up a book he's written about his family/life or check out the many articles on that subject. TIME magazine has dedicated a lot of time and effort into bringing Obama's life story to the American public.

- Lee

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Southern Guardian

 

Exactly. But hey, I get it. This one is different to you all. Gotcha!

It is actually VERY different..
The last few Presidents came from very well known families in the US..
Their births were probably covered by TV, Newspapers and Magazines..
Pretty hard to hide the birth of a Bush or a Kennedy..

Obama came from nowhere..
We know so little of his or his families past..
I doubt his birth raised much attention on MSM like a Bush or a Kennedy..

edit on 19-1-2011 by backinblack because: (no reason given)

So what? This is a weak and lame rebuttal and is a textbook example of a strawman argument. Whether or not a president comes from a well known family is irrelevant. Are you saying we should value presidential candidates based on their families and connections? Bill Clinton's boyhood home was a shack compared to those of many of our former presidents. I highly doubt his birth was even announced in his local newspaper, let alone in any of the other major news outlets.

And actually, no, as a matter of fact the last few U.S. presidents did not all come from well known families in the U.S. Much like Obama, several U.S. presidents from the last 60 years were also born into less than notable or wealthy families and their births likely did not make the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, or the CBS evening news. Here's a short summary of some of them (all sourced from Wikipedia):

- Ronald Reagan (40th pres, 1981-1989) Born in a second floor apartment of a commercial building in Tampico. Ilinois.
- Richard Nixon (37th pres, 1969-1974) His early life was full of hardship especially after his family's ranch failed.
- Lyndon B. Johnson (36th pres, 1963-1969) Was born in a small farmhouse near Stonewall, Texas.
(Kennedy was 35th pres, just so you know)
- Dwight D. Eisenhower (34th pres, 1953-1961) To quote from Wikipedia: "Eisenhower's father, David Jacob Eisenhower, was a college-educated engineer but had trouble making a living and the family was poor."

So, you see, NOT very different at all.

And by the way, "Obama came from nowhere" is possibly one of the laziest "birther" attack statements I have ever seen.

Not suprised at all, when I saw the interview he was talking like he knew obama forever, like how do you just randomly know a baby that was born who wasn't special in any way at birth? called BS from the beginning

I'll betcha Sarah Palins got something to do with not being able to find it.

The birth certificate isn't there people. It's not there!

Originally posted by dolphinfan
Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

Well I guess this just proves Obama doesn't exist.

What I want to know is, what makes a Governor feel he can simply go into a citizens private records just to prove a fringe group of conspiracy theorists wrong?

He doesn't have a right to do this.
This would violate Hawaii's privacy laws.

Whatever crusade he is on won't go far, unless he is given permission to access the records.

Officials within the State of Hawaii have already said Obama was born there.
That should be enough for any rational mind.

Originally posted by Skippy1138
Yet Obama has spent thousands of dollars to prevent people from looking into his birth, his college years, on and on and on...
WHY?

This again?

Well at least it has gone from "millions" to "thousands".

Anyway...prove it, please.

Tell us who exactly is he paying, and how are they preventing people from looking at his birth certificate and college records?

I haven't spent a cent, and you can't see mine unless I allow you to.
You realize that, right?

You don't need "seals" or to pay money to shadowy powerful people that can hide records.

Guess someone should tell Obama he's wasting millio...I mean "thousands" of dollars.

- Lee

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by backinblack
Ohh BS...It's an extract..

It is a valid birth certificate, accepted for anything a birth certificate is needed for - something the birthers ignore!

How can the 'fathers race=African' be valid?

Who's the retard that made up this fake BC?

Originally posted by Intelearthling

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by backinblack
Ohh BS...It's an extract..

It is a valid birth certificate, accepted for anything a birth certificate is needed for - something the birthers ignore!

How can the 'fathers race=African' be valid?

Who's the retard that made up this fake BC?

Because Obama Sr is African??