Radical Islam - The Biggest Threat to your Freedoms

reply to post by Haydn_17


Way to miss the point.

Well done.

Originally posted by lnr42

It's time you addressed the issue and eradicated the threat from within your own communities yourself.

Perhaps you are right.

The Pew report in 2006 found that

81% of British Muslims thought of themselves as Muslims first and British second.

Only 7% thought of themself as British first.

69% of Spanish Muslims thought of themselves as Muslims first and Spanish second.

Only 3% though of themself as Spanish first.

66% of German Muslims thought of themselves as Muslims first and German second.

Only 13% thought of themself as German first.

46% of French Muslims thought of themselves as Muslims first and French second.

42% thought of themself as French first.

pewglobal.org...

reply to post by 46ACE

Yup propaganda produced for the "ignorant"... Warning graphic: You think having tea with these bastids makes you better than me?

Who said I was having tea with anyone?

I stated that the OP is full of despicable propoganda for the ignorant

Thanks for proving me right.

reply to post by lnr42


What has the military conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq got to do with the Islamifiication, or perceived Islamifciation depending on viewpoint, of Europe and the USA?

Are you saying that the only reason there is a threat from radical and extremist Muslins is because of our involvement in those countries?

reply to post by ollncasino

The Pew report in 2006 found that

81% of British Muslims thought of themselves as Muslims first and British second.
Only 7% thought of themself as British first.

69% of Spanish Muslims thought of themselves as Muslims first and Spanish second.

Only 3% though of themself as Spanish first.

66% of German Muslims thought of themselves as Muslims first and German second.

Only 13% thought of themself as German first.

46% of French Muslims thought of themselves as Muslims first and French second.

42% thought of themself as French first.

This is the nature of faith. What puzzles me is why Pew feels the need to scrutinies Muslims in Europe when it is a polling company based in the US that does political surveys. What would be interesting is to discover who commissioned the survey. An American group of some kind instructed Pew to only examine the faith of Muslims in parts of the world they have no business in trifling.

Ask a Born Again Christian if they are with Christ or the US first.

Ask a Jew if he is a Jew before being an American first.

You can conduct such agenda oriented surveys to create mayhem. There is something or someone in the US that is working overtime to drive a cleave between peoples.

reply to post by Freeborn


No.

You stated that Muslim communities do not do enough to stand up to the the radical element.

I asked what you were doing in light of the various atrocities 'your people' are responsible for.

Star and flagged OP.

To those screaming and yelling "Racist bigot!" haven't seen the realities of Islam. I never had a single mean thought against Islam before I moved to Norway. It's easy to embrace ignorance, try denying it for once. Political Correctness is ignorance and you all are full of it.

Originally posted by lnr42

Do you agree with the wars we are currently embroiled in? Do you believe everything the UK gov does is right?

Its really odd, the one thing that almost all brits and the radicals have in common is these wars we have planted ourselves in and that we should get the hell out. As for our wondrous governments,

Dear oh dear

Initially I actually thought Blair was going to be promising but he just rolled over to play puppy for Bush, to hear Bush Bush sitting there on mic by accident calling over Tony Blair his favourite leader of his staunch allies the British by shouting "Blair, come here"....

I don't think it's the Islam / Muslims we have to worry about. The Zionist Jews are the real threat in this world. Things like terrorist bombings etc. are probably false-flag and the hostile actions Israel has committed against the US are always kept quiet. Please look at the USS Liberty incident in 1967, you will see that Israel can do what it wants. I'm not saying every Jew is a threat, it's a very small percentage of them: Zionist Jews.

reply to post by Mclaneinc


I'm confused why you're getting all overly defensive about a comment I made. It wasn't a reply to you, nor did it specifically mention you.

You just inferred what you wanted from it.

I'm just here to have a discussion, not to try and insult people.

reply to post by lnr42


And what has that got to do with this thread?

Start a thread on that topic and I'll gladly contribute and give my viewpoint.

Unless you think there is a direct corelation I suggest you stop trying to muddy the waters and discuss the matter in hand!

I stand by what I said; whilst recognising that the view of the radicals and extremists is not representative of the beliefs of the majority of Muslims the self same majority of Muslims do not do enough, for various reasons, to counter the spread and acts of these radicals and extremists.

Originally posted by Haydn_17

My Goverment doesnt want to kill me
My Goverment wont force me into religion
My Goverment has a fair law system
My Goverment has fair punishments ( No cutting off hands here)

Islam = 1200AD Law system

Just a few amendments, Sharia law = 1200AD

Your Government DOES want to kill you and has done to many poor soldiers sent to a war that only the US government want for obvious reason, both UK and US people want us out asap.

Your government does force religion on you but in a more gentle but unwanted way.

Certainly a fairer law system no doubt, still stacked in favour of the well off and those in power tho.

And yes, thankfully we don't do some of that sort of stuff but the number of times I've heard people scream about castrating paedophiles can make you wonder how far off we are

my biggest concern was the very first video posted. This was the labour government justice minister speaking, and he actually said that he hoped that one day the British parliament would consist entirely of muslims and that they would all embrace the faith...inshallah..

Sorry, but that's terrifiying...

Originally posted by Kram09
reply to post by Mclaneinc

 

I'm confused why you're getting all overly defensive about a comment I made. It wasn't a reply to you, nor did it specifically mention you.

You just inferred what you wanted from it.

I'm just here to have a discussion, not to try and insult people.

Well its fair to presume you read all posts before making comments, yours and the other guy came quite a few after my post so it's quite fair to presume I was lumped in with everyone, if that's not the case then fine but it's would have been easier to exclude me from the comments in the post.

Fair yes?

I'm not here to deliberately insult either, I'm actually trying to put a fair side of the thread over and am trying to correct ideals on both sides.

I

reply to post by destination now


Something none of the apologists are able to counter.

reply to post by Mclaneinc


Thank you for your very well balanced posts, which should have given anyone without a full understanding of the reality, a good insight into the truth. I think with your background it would be difficult for anyone to read the information you presented and still take a totally opposing view to the OP. It would seem however that they did not read your posts in full or it is doubtful they would still be waving the bigot/racist etc card at you.

Was going to make a scathing comment about why they have yet to reply, but I won't descend to that level...

Originally posted by destination now
my biggest concern was the very first video posted. This was the labour government justice minister speaking, and he actually said that he hoped that one day the British parliament would consist entirely of muslims and that they would all embrace the faith...inshallah..

Sorry, but that's terrifiying...

Hey, I think religious minorities exerting the power of their votes to get their tax money spent on them is good. It is very astute that British Muslims should get as many Muslims into Parliament as possible.

I believe the Jewish community has done the same thing in the US and even a foreign country pays for the Israeli Lobby. I don't think British Muslims would tolerate foreign entities hijacking their political interests but Muslims should start asserting themselves and use the law to break the backs of bigots and religious hate mongers.

I believe "inshallah" means if God wills it. Yes if God wills it bigots will be outlawed.

reply to post by Freeborn


precisely....and this is hardly media manipulation or dodgy sources...These are his words, his beliefs and his hopes. I too will be interested to hear what the apologists have to say.

reply to post by Ilovecatbinlady

I believe "inshallah" means if God wills it. Yes if God wills it bigots will be outlawed.

yes that's exactly what inshallah means and if you live in the UK you will be living under Sharia law in an Islamic state and if you are not muslim you will be persecuted. Is that good for you?

And I'm not so sure that over a billion pounds in tax money should be going to Islamic countries, I think we need that for ourselves at this moment in time!

reply to post by destination now

yes that's exactly what inshallah means and if you live in the UK you will be living under Sharia law in an Islamic state and if you are not muslim you will be persecuted. Is that good for you?

No I don't think so. Religious persecution is what Christians do but not Muslims. Can you say H O L O C A U S T? A purely Christian endeavor and what about the very Christian Inquisition and the cross carrying Conquistadors? There is also the Christian Xe mercenaries that engage in homosexual bonding and child rape?

I live in the UK and Sharia law does not apply to me but it should apply to bankers to go to prison and to implement a ban on usury.

I think you are a rabblerouser by the way.