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1. You alleged there has been 'AfroAmerican' bigotry in this thread. I asked you to provide one example. You haven't. Why? Because you can't, because there isn't any. So you delierately made it up. You lied. You are a liar. Why? To deflect and as a pathetic and underhand attempt a labelling people a racist and bigot. Pretty damn low in my book and downright contemptuous.
2. 'Christian TransAtlantic Slave trade. What relevance is there between that and the topic under discussion? Deflection again. An attempt to play on people's emotions and link those that have concerns with extremist Islam and the slave trade. Absolutely pathetic.
And I really fail to see what relevance your wife has, what ethnicity she is and what she has to say unless she is signed up as a member and chooses to contribute to the discussion, hopefully in a far more balaced and reasoned way than you have!
And for the record; I don't have a problem with the people, I have a problem with the belief system and how it is used to control and manpulate people, how it is barbaric and repressive and restricts personal freedoms.
I don't expect you to even attempt to understand the basic but all important difference.
Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
Christians ran the TransAtlantic Slave Trade and my comment is relevant as a response to allegations of violence from Muslims.
Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by ollncasino
You are quite correct.
Slavery also has a very long history in Africa and beyond, since well before the 'coming of the white man'.
And it's ironic that Christian White Abolitionists were at the very heart of the fight to outlaw slavery.
But I didn't want to derail the thread which was why I was hoping he would have started a thread on the subject.
I hope you are as quick to condemn the Muslims who enslaved 17 million Africans, 1.25+ million white Europeans and still enslave 800,000 Africans to this day.
Originally posted by destination now
weirdly enough, the only name calling is coming from ilovecatbinlady...he seems determined to call everyone who disagrees with him a bigot and a racist, the rest of us are just trying to have a civilised discussion...
Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
I think the difference between Western slavery and slavery elsewhere is that the Christian West adopted a dehumanizing racist form of slavery. African slavery was about the absorption of small tribes into large one.
Originally posted by destination now
reply to post by Kram09
weirdly enough, the only name calling is coming from ilovecatbinlady...he seems determined to call everyone who disagrees with him a bigot and a racist, the rest of us are just trying to have a civilised discussion...
Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
Christian West TransAtlantic slave trade consumed more that 300 million Africans
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply.
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions.
After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues.
At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare.
From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and ***ya, the tax placed on infidels.
After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim
100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word. Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.
Originally posted by ollncasino
Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
Christian West TransAtlantic slave trade consumed more that 300 million Africans
Wrong again.
Refer to my above post.
Scholars put the number of Africans enslaved by white people at 12 million, while the Muslim Arabs enslaved 17 million. Plus 1.25 million white Europeans.
Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
It is permitted to libel Muslims but not Jews in the West.
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia [rabies] in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. ...The fact that in Mohammedan law [sharia] every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities—but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.”
—Winston Churchill (1874-1965) British Prime Minister
Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady
Wrong as usual. Where do you get you data from?
I suppose you will be wanting to call Churchill a bigot?
"Someone once asked Churchill if he had seen the film Carmen Jones, which starred Dorothy Dandridge. Winston replied that he didn't like blackamoors and had walked out early in the proceedings."
"When he was told that there was a very high mortality among Negroes from measels he growled 'Well there are plenty left. They've a high rate of production'".
"Churchill was irritated by Harold Macmillan's 1960 'Wind of Change' speech. 'Harold should not have gone to Africa encouraging the black men.'"