Comet Elenin is coming!

reply to post by C.H.U.D.

This is the main reason I will no longer be replying to your posts...

Earlier on in this thread I made this post, where I said:

Cometary material on the other hand is usually no where near as dense, and in some cases of similar consistency as cigarette ash.
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Note that I said of similar consistency. I did not say comets were made of cigarette ash.

It's blatantly obvious that:

1. You either have very poor comprehension skills

and/or

2. You don't care about facts, and you have to twist other people's words around in order to further your own agenda - trying to ram electric universe crap down everybody elses throats.

Either way, there is no point wasting my time talking to you any more.

PS. I made this post for the benefit of others, so everyone can see how pointless it is trying to have a discussion with someone like you. ATS is one of the few places I know where you can offer up your time and knowledge, only to be fobbed off in a manner which basically says "F**K you".

Unfortunately it is you that is in error here and not me. I am not 'ramming' anything down anyone's throat. I was inviting you to look at it but you insist on preaching your dogma without any backing evidence whatsoever. You have not supported your statements whereas I have supported mine as you requested. Your attitude to the EU theory is just exactly that which I would expect from mainstream astronomy and your puerile reply is a certain indicator that for some reason you feel threatened by a theory that gets at the roots of your dogma and typically you exhibit a complete lack of willingness to consider other possibilities. That is not science, that is dogma. What was it you said again..."trying to ram electric universe crap down everybody elses throats"....a most enlightened attitude I must say. The world will really go places with mindsets like that.

I do care very much about facts, rather more than you do it would seem since you expect to have your word taken as gospel. You challenged me to back up my words and I have. You have not backed up yours. You were not 'offering your time and knowledge' you were preaching and as you are aware if you can't or won't back something up on ATS, as elsewhere, then it has no substance.

Basically you accused me of having no knowledge and now you are accusing me of having poor comprehension skills. I would have thought it reasonably obvious that I was not inferring that you actually thought that comets were made of cigarette ash any more than I would think that you would consider I believed they were made of ice cream. Could it be that your comprehension skills are also a tad lacking?

I am pleased that you should consider making further comment for the benefit of others, but as far as I can tell you only see it as a pointless exercise having a conversation with 'someone like me', whatever that means, because you are unable to put over your point backed by evidence. You seem a little miffed that your word was just accepted at face value.

If you wanted to debate the nature of the universe and comets in particular I would be happy to oblige, in fact we could get into much deeper detail if you wish, however I get the feeling that reasoned debate is not actually your style.

reply to post by randyvs


Yes, obviously!

Then you do not stand alone. So much irony in the term Godsmack.

the term Godsmack? Can you elucidate?

Originally posted by PuterMan
reply to post by randyvs

 

Yes, obviously!

Then you do not stand alone. So much irony in the term Godsmack.

the term Godsmack? Can you elucidate?

I believe I can and may I compliment your elegant use of the english language. Always do admire.

In this case it seems self explanatory. Simply in comparison, a comet strike would be the equivelent of mankind being smacked or in another word smited by God. Purely hypothetical at this point I should add as to not draw any unwarranted attacks by the commoners. Js kidding. Hold yer fire!


ouch ! Upon review it seems I may have poked my nose in the wrong pue so to speak. Apologies to you Puterman. I hope I don't need to explain any further. Where is that emoticon for embarrased?

reply to post by randyvs


I see no reason for any embarrassment. Thanks for responding, I just had not made the connection. I am afraid I get a little lost with stargate2012 and the tribulations etc as it is way outside my normal envelope.

I have just checked that stats on Elenin again and there is no change. The last date of computation is still the 14th Jan.

reply to post by PuterMan


How are you getting lost with my theory?

Originally posted by randyvs

Troops coming home from abroad ? WTF?

edit on 18-1-2011 by randyvs because: (no reason given)

woww woww, the president in the movie is black, same as today.
very very strangeee. my head is going to blow

reply to post by Stargate2012


First let me say that I mean no offence by what I say in this post. I am not a religious person and to me the bible is a story book nothing more. The chance that quotations from John or Revelations have anything at all to do with the appearance of this comet are to me dubious.

I am perfectly OK with the fact that you and others on the thread see something in this connection and have your own beliefs. I said it before and will say it again, I would deny no person their belief and equally I expect others to respect that I do not believe. If you see a connection that is fine however, and I am not accusing you of this, I do get very tired of the Yahweh is coming to strike the sinners thing.

My father's family were/are all priests/scientists/military and my mother's family priests/teachers. (That is of course a broad overview) My father was a Church of England priest so of course I am not unfamiliar with the passages that you quote. I am very happy for you to make those connections on this thread as there are many others who are of a similar belief and persuasion to yourself. You may find this attitude somewhat strange in view of the 'argument' that has transpired recently on the thread, but the difference is that you make statements such as 'I think' or 'I believe'. This is very different from the 'this is a fact' type of statement when there is always the possibility that it is not a fact. I eschew dogma in all it's forms.

Why am I not a priest or a scientist, following in the family line so to speak? The reason is a very interesting insight into 'nature versus nurture' as it happens. I am actually adopted and a few years ago I found my real family. I have always been a practical person, tinkering with cars, doing DIY, making things with wood, whereas my (adoptive) father was just about the most inept practical person you imagine. A wonderful man but not a practical bone in his body. It turns out that I actually come from about 6 generations or more of builders! Is that nature over nurture? I really do believe it is. I am by trade a computer programmer as you possibly guessed.

Originally posted by Stargate2012
reply to post by PuterMan

 

How are you getting lost with my theory?

hey, ya gonna answer my question?
see my previous posts.

reply to post by undo


I don't see it.

Originally posted by Stargate2012
reply to post by undo

 

I don't see it.

Originally posted by undo
you might find this interesting

hmm, your handle is interesting. you aren't david flynn are you?

reply to post by PuterMan


You don't have to be a "religious" person for you to see the connections.

Ever heard of Paul LaViolette? He wrote a book called "Earth Under Fire". One of his chapters talks about the "Day of the Lord" and Judgement Day.His theory is that a Galactic Superwave hits Earth and the Sun, and tying it in to what Revelation says.



Basically it is taking Bible esoteric symbolism and making astronomy connections out of them. Lots and lots of astronomy/astrology connections in the Bible if you actually don't know that.

If you think the Bible is just some fabled story, some fiction book, then that is kind of sad, but to each of their own.

I say I think or believe because these are just theories. If you take the time to read my blog, then perhaps you will be more enlightened.

reply to post by undo


Oh no. I have emailed him with my theory since he came up with a very similar theory to mine regarding the 1260 day Great Tribulation period. He had it starting on Passover and ending on the Feast of Tabernacles. Mine is the other way around. Starts on the 8th Day of Feast of Tabernacles and ends on Passover. I never heard from Flynn and not even sure if he is still around.

Originally posted by Stargate2012
reply to post by undo

 

Oh no. I have emailed him with my theory since he came up with a very similar theory to mine regarding the 1260 day Great Tribulation period. He had it starting on Passover and ending on the Feast of Tabernacles. Mine is the other way around. Starts on the 8th Day of Feast of Tabernacles and ends on Passover. I never heard from Flynn and not even sure if he is still around.

yeah he's still around, from what i can tell. he usually goes to roswell ufo conventions. last i heard he was writing a book. i don't know if that was temple at the center of time or what. anyway, yeah, different approaches i'm guessing the placement of passover may have even further symbols in prophecies that could help detremine if it is end or beginning.

reply to post by undo


It is the end. The end of the Great Tribulation period.

The 2nd Passover I have determined, which is 30 days after the first, due to touching defiled or dead bodies, is when the Day of the Lord happens.

Remember, the Two Witnesses die. The bodies are likely touched. Passover is not kept then at that time, but 30 days later on the 2nd Passover. The Flood of Noah occurred on the 2nd Passover. 17th of Iyar.

1260 days

1290 days

reply to post by PuterMan

I have just checked that stats on Elenin again and there is no change. The last date of computation is still the 14th Jan.

I find this very worrisome to say the least. I mean WHY!

Stargate

Don't think I'm ignoring you at all.
I'm more in a state of shock and wondering where in hell you come from. Your the scariest person I know of right now.I know of the precision involved with the things you are saying and you are not wrong about any of it. Chills.

Originally posted by Stargate2012
reply to post by undo

 

It is the end. The end of the Great Tribulation period.

The 2nd Passover I have determined, which is 30 days after the first, due to touching defiled or dead bodies, is when the Day of the Lord happens.

Remember, the Two Witnesses die. The bodies are likely touched. Passover is not kept then at that time, but 30 days later on the 2nd Passover. The Flood of Noah occurred on the 2nd Passover. 17th of Iyar.

1260 days

1290 days

i will research your theory further and get back to you on it.
also, i'd appreciate your input on my thread linked in my sig (if you haven't already).

reply to post by undo


Ok, let me know what you think. Just have a little bit more tweaking to do. In my opinion it completely makes 100% sense. The two so-called witnesses begin on the Feast of Tabernacles and end, their deaths on Passover. Their bodies are defiled, touched, thus, 30 days later is when the 2nd Passover occurs. Just like 1260 days to Passover from Feast of Tabernacles, and 1290 days to 2nd Passover.

I believe possibly the 144,000 whatever they are, go through the "stargate" right at the end of the Great Tribulation period and before the coming Day of the Lord. The 144,000 are redeemed or "raptured" during the day of the firstfruits, which the firstfruits is the day Jesus was resurrected. So perhaps then Jesus went through this "stargate" as well?

I will look more at your "stargate" posts later.

reply to post by randyvs


Randyvs, so you are agreeing with my theory? You see all of the connections with it?

All I did to start really researching this and figuring it out was back in August I was intrigued with the date of Oct. 21st, 2011 (The Last Great Day) that Bible pastor Harold Camping has mentioned. What I then did for the hell of it was add 1260 days (42 months or 3 years and 6 months) to that date and I precisely arrived at Passover, April 4th, 2015 (Blood Red Moon).

Then I started researching when the two so called witnesses would begin their testimony of 1260 days or 42 months and it completely made sense from my research that they would start on the Feast of Tabernacles and end on Passover. Resurrected 3 1/2 days later on the Firstfruits. The 144,000 who come out of the tribulation are redeemed on this day too. Then, there is a half hour of silence when the 7th seal is opened up. That half hour of silence is 30 days. Then comes the 2nd Passover where the Day of the Lord happens on Iyar 17, the same day when the floods of Noah opened up.

Fallen angels. Satan = fallen angel

The General Epistle of
Jude
1

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomor'rah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
8 ¶ Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

The Shemini Atzeret Sabbath, the day after the end of Sukk'ot, is known as "The Last Great Day" because it is the final annual Holy Day that was God-established.

reply to post by Stargate2012


I believe your calculations make total sense. As for what may or may not come of them we are still waiting arn't we. I won't even know if we can trust any new info on this, you know ?