Comet Elenin is coming!

reply to post by gringoboy


Don't forget the "super solar storm" predicted anywhere from 2012-2013 (their estimates keep changing)

reply to post by MasonicFantom


The more accurate prediction in my opinion is 2015.

To compare the start of the Maunder Minimum to our current day minimum, I have marked where the maximum of Solar Cycle 24 would be in 2015 as 15 years after the peak of the preceding cycle. There is also a parallel in the way that the C14 count (reflecting the neutron flux and in turn the GCR flux) is climbing above the peaks of previous minima, as it is today with the Oulu neutron count. Neutron count tends to peak a year after solar maximum, so a neutron peak in 2010 is consistent with solar minimum in 2009.

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reply to post by Stargate2012
Kinda seems to me that No one knows what is going on.
I do however find it very interesting that the Mayans,. whom were said to be VERY exact in their
calender writings could possibly be wrong about any date,. as they were spot on with many astronomical events.

Here is a rough outline.

Oct 20th-21st, 2011 (The Last Great Day- Feast of Tabernacles) Two witnesses begin here

exactly 1260 days later = (Passover - Blood Red Moon- April 4th, 2015) Two witnesses die here

If the two witnesses bodies are touched by someone, Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread is not kept at that time but 30 days later.

Oct. 20th-21st, 2011 plus 1290 days = May 3rd, 2015 (The Beginning of the 2nd Passover and the 7 day Feast of Unleavened Bread)

Then there is the time code for the 1335 days which I think I just figured out

Here we have three additional elements. First element is that the disciples observe him rising. He doesn't just disappear, but first begins to rise. The Greek verb epairo means, "raise." The second element mentions that a cloud hides him from sight. The third element is a pair of angels who announce, "This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."

How does Jesus ascend into heaven? Into a cloud. Then how will he return? In a cloud. As Jesus relates the end-time events, he says, "At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory" (Luke 21:27).

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reply to post by Stargate2012


As I said before I like your figures. I just can't accept anything as far as a solid date for the return of Christ.
Even though I can say you could easily have nailed it. It's just that that is all about the mind of God only.
That is who will decide the timing of that event. It just goes to far in any case , you know? It's not for anyone to know. Only the Father.

reply to post by randyvs


Yeah I think I nailed it by figuring out the 1335 days. I could explain.

Here is the clue, the ascension of Jesus happened exactly 40 days after he died/resurrected. It was said that he would return in the same manner as he ascended.

The Acts of the Apostles
1
The Ascension
6 ¶ When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

I always find it funny how whenever something of a disastrous nature
or lives are saved, it is always has something to do with religion,
Couldnt it possibly be that It is NOT a message, sign,or some kind of symbolism of god
and that if a comet is to hit this planet that it WAS just a matter of time?

reply to post by Lil Drummerboy


Yes, indeed it could just be a matter of time, or of the wrong time so to speak. Earth has been hit by many objects in the past as the database of 172 confirmed hits tells us, and you can bet that not only are those only the ones that we can recognise but that there have been many many more in the history of this planet that we cannot see.

Whilst it is likely that this one will not hit, but I reserve my judgement on that, there are certain ones that will and a very likely candidate is Apophis.

It was found that small uncertainties in the masses and positions of the planets and Sun can cause up to 23 Earth radii of prediction error for Apophis by 2036.

The standard model of the Earth as a point mass can introduce up to 2.9 Earth radii of prediction error by 2036; at least the Earth's oblateness must be considered to predict an impact.

The gravity of other asteroids can cause up to 2.3 Earth radii of prediction uncertainty for Apophis.

And from Wikipedia

However, a possibility remained that during the 2029 close encounter with Earth, Apophis would pass through a gravitational keyhole, a precise region in space no more than about 600 meters across[6], that would set up a future impact on April 13, 2036. This possibility kept the asteroid at Level 1 on the Torino impact hazard scale until August 2006, when the probability that Apophis will pass through the keyhole was determined to be very small.

So sez the scientists!!! They are coming to get us!!! April 13th Fortunately it is a Sunday.

reply to post by PuterMan
Elenin has to clear the Ort cloud first right?
which "Could" mean a trajectory change..

reply to post by Lil Drummerboy


The Oort cloud was a reference I picked up in the original article which was incorrect. I had not looked to see where it was and just went with it. Elenin has long since passed there and the trans-neptunian objects. It has also passed any point where it might meet up with the Greeks or the Trojans (the collections of bodies fore and aft of Jupiter). My apologies for throwing you off the track there.

Currently it is just about entering the asteroid belt so I would guess that between now and the start of May is a period of risk from any black body that we have not spotted, mainly because the trajectory is so close to the ecliptic.

Then there is the Taurids - which are probably not a great danger. I am just not prepared to commit to there being no chance of a stray hit unlike our amateur astronomy friends who seem to think the science is settled.

reply to post by Stargate2012


Thanks Stargate...that's ALOT of information to absorb! I've read it, a few times actually. I think you're onto something...seriously!

Now I'm nervous.

reply to post by PuterMan
Something else I also find interesting,.
how is the orbit trajectory calculated?
And are they not in dependence of the suns gravitational pull to be assured the object will infact
move between the earth and the sun.
How can they calculate such exact path?

reply to post by makinit66


I know I am on to something. There are so many things that add up and relate. Here are a few.

1) Solar Max likely 2015

2) It is pretty clear and apparent the two witnesses begin on Tabernacles and die on Passover. Exact perfect match of 1260 days from those two dates.

3) Dragon casting its stars to Earth perfectly relates to the major Draconid meteor shower that starts on Oct. 8th, 2011 which so happens to be Yom Kippur.

4) The 1335 days has to do with the Son of Man returning and I will show you exactly how it adds up to even the date of Oct. 21st, 2011 again.

reply to post by Lil Drummerboy


I think the mechanics of orbital trajectories are pretty well established - even over many ceturies - but note the wording of the NASA piece about Apophis.

small uncertainties in the masses and positions of the planets and Sun

It does not take too many small uncertainties to stand a chance of making a big uncertainty I think.

reply to post by Stargate2012


What can I say ? You have the pieces together as well as anyone I've ever seen. I've been around on the subject for quite a while. You should think about taking the next step IMO and if you catch my drift. An amazing job.

reply to post by randyvs


Just purely as a matter of interest, if we take the beginning of the world as 4004 BC as some say, and the first 4000 years (or 4 days - a day is as 1000 years in Thy sight) then Jesus would have been born in 4 BC. Take then 33 years on, i.e his lifespan and then 2000 years, or 2 days, we get to 2029 AD

I think something was supposed to happen in 2029 - ah yes Apophis. Mm

reply to post by randyvs


Thank you my friend You mean, write a book about it? Or create a Youtube video?

Here is how the 1335 days add up. A quick draft of it.

Oct. 20th/21st, 2011 (LAST GREAT DAY) plus 1335 days = June 15th/16th, 2015

Remember, Noah went into the Ark on Iyar 14. Iyar 14 is exactly 30 days after Nissan 14 (Passover).

The great flood feel on Earth on Iyar 17th, or 30 days after Nissan 17th (Resurrection Day) Remember, 40 days after Resurrection day is the day of Ascension when Jesus went up in a cloud to the kingdom of heaven. It says in Acts, he shall return just as he went up. Meaning, the Son of Man returns on the cloud again.

So lets say, the two witnesses die on Passover, the bodies are touched, thus Passover and Feast of Unleavened bread is not kept at that time but 30 days later. This would take it too Iyar 14. 3 days later is Iyar 17.

Remember, on Iyar 17th, the floods rained on earth for 40 days and 40 nights. Going back, Jesus ascended on the 40th day after resurrection. Iyar 17th, or May 6th, 2015 plus 40 days and 40 nights = June 16th, 2015


The Book of Daniel
12

The Time of the End
7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever, Rev. 10.5 that it shall be for a time, times, and a half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

Acts 1

3 to whom also he showed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
4 and, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father,which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

The Ascension
6 ¶ When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. Mt. 28.19 · Mk. 16.15 · Lk. 24.47, 48
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

The Gospel according to
St. Luke
21
The Coming of the Son of Man
25 ¶ And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars;and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
29 ¶ And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;
30 when they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.
31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.

reply to post by Stargate2012


But what about the prerequisites?

Like the rebuilt temple for example?

It just seems like there wouldn't really be enough time in your timeline for all of the precursors, but maybe you can clear that up for me?

reply to post by daryllyn


Jesus was the temple. I don't envision at all the Temple, a physical new Temple being built before the end. Where are you getting a 3rd temple needs to be built?

reply to post by Stargate2012


Its a commonplace belief that many many people believe to be a prerequisite to the Second Coming. I am sure you are aware that this theory exists.

What scriptures are you getting your interpretation from?