Smoking causes gene damage in minutes

Inhaling smoke is not good for the body, if you need a study before you believe that then all I got to say is wow. However I am a strong believer that most of the problems associated with tobacco besides the obvious lung damage from inhaling come from chemical additives. I also believe that dip and chew cause their problems from the additives, it is a face the some chewing tobacco actually contains fiberglass that is meant to make tiny cuts in the mouth to deliver the nicotine to the user.

While smoking is obviously not a safe practice there have been many lifelong smokers who have made it to their 90's. Go figure how that happens.

Originally posted by anumohi
when i was 12 years old my child psychologist prescribed me cigarettes through his acting psychiatrist, for the calming affect, other than the use of chemical drugs, and my parents signed off and Ive been addicted ever since. this is the influences of big tobacco and big pharm. i personally feel that they should pay me $100,000 for every year ive smoked, plus pay to get me smoke free.

Well i would imagine that if you indeed were prescribed cigarettes by a psychologist that you would be able to sue for there abouts the amount of money you mentioned if not more.


have you looked into it with a lawyer?

Originally posted by SyphonX
You're inhaling and exhaling actual smoke. Into your lungs. When would this ever be a good idea?

It sounds bizarre but there is at least one medicine that works best when smoked. An herb called mullein, when smoked or consumed in a tea, acts as an expectorant. It will promote the release of mucous from the lungs.

I will attest to it working incredibly well in my case. I was the victim of some inept campers and inhaled quite a bit of smoke from burning plastic in my sleep. My roommate was sharing a tent with me and suffered as well. For the next 2 weeks our lungs felt heavy, and we had odd phlegm production. I found out about mullein and smoked some and instantly could breathe much easier. The next day I smoked quite a bit more and did some light cardio. Everything cleared out and I felt back to 100% normal.

It is still an odd thing to me, that smoking a plant can help with asthma.

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they're all long dead, I'm over 50 now so i cant really go anywhere with that

Originally posted by anumohi
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they're all long dead, I'm over 50 now so i cant really go anywhere with that

I have no idea what legal requirements are as far as keeping of medical records though would there not be a chance that it would have been written down somewhere? that would surely be all you would require to begin a lawsuit again the psychologsts estate.

This really irks me!

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The fertilisers they use on the tobacco plants contain some radioactive materials. Also, the preservatives they use on the dried tobacco is full of carcinogens that become potent when lit. Damage to the lungs and such is going to occur whenever any plant material is smoked, with high levels of CO and CO2 inhaled

Originally posted by Beyond Creation
Two sides to every coin (tounge-in-cheek)..

The advantages...


* You will always have something to do with your hands.
* To avoid headaches later in the day, always have a cigarette first thing in the morning.
* If you work with explosives, you have a handy method of lighting the fuse.
* Smoking is a good career move if you want early retirement and would like to use up your sick leave.
* On New Years Eve you don't have to go out to the fireworks. Just dip your cigarette into a jar of ground up sparklers.
* Amuse your friends and be the life of the party by blowing smoke rings.
* Always discard your butts in flower pots and garden beds as it helps fertilise the plants and keeps insects away.
* Occasional house fires will help keep firemen employed.
* By buying cigarettes from corner stores, you help support local businesses and help retain the fabric of our society.
* At the beach, children can use the butts to decorate their sand castles.
* Annoy neighbours you don't like by staying home and smoking heavily.
* You will always have a good reason for loitering - "Officer, I'm just having a cigarette".
* Always smoke when you are pregnant. Your smoking helps the unborn baby prepare for the air pollution in the real world.
* When your neighbour's kids are too noisy, trigger their asthma by breathing smoke on them.
* By smoking heavily, you get out of boring work and will have plenty of short breaks during the day.
* Develop your cool image and fun-loving personality by being a smoker. Non-smoking is for wimps and wusses.
* You will have a good reason to paint the ceilings every three years.
* Why celebrate world no-tobacco day once a year, when every day can be celebrated as a pro-tobacco day.
* You will know when it's time to throw out your old lounge suite by the number of burn marks.
* Smoking is an adult custom. Add years to how old you look by smoking heavily.
* If you run out of smokes late at night, help the taxi industry by getting them to deliver your smokes to the door.
* You can demand more services and benefits from the government because you have paid more in taxes.
* Help keep the bush fire brigades trained and ready for any emergency by throwing lighted butts from your car window.
* Keep your weight down by smoking cigarettes instead of eating them.

nsma.org.au...


Peace

You forgot the main one, save money! We'll die sooner and save money

Originally posted by keelan55
Smoking is turning into a real problem.Smoking is one of the worst thinges you can do because it damages you're body.I really don't know why some people smoke all it does is pumps chemicals into you're body and Damages you're lungs along with other thinges But, once you smoke it is hard to quit the habit.If people want to smoke and risk there long term health then that's fine with me but,smoking has consquences.

Smokings not hard to quit, I've quit 7 times

Originally posted by Jinglelord
I'm surprised that on a website such as this nobody has brought up the possibility that this study is false...

I don't believe Cigarettes are as bad for a person as we are being led to believe. What we don't hear because we aren't listening is that lung cancer, emphysema, and other ailments associated with smoking are really showing a very small percentage increase among smokers. Big pharm and the other AMA would have you believe that 100% of smokers wind up dead because of smoking.

In addition the statistics about the number of people who die every year due to smoking have to be complete BS. How do they know? They don't.

Again, I am disappointed. I certainly hope for your sakes you don't listen to the medical establishment blindly in other issues...

Noam Chomsky believes the government are going after smokers because it's become a working class drug. And governments traditionally demonise substances used by the poor.

Not quite sure they're that petty but if you want a conspiracy you can start there

exessive breathing leads to lung cancer

air is corrosive

sky is falling

endisnighbetterstayinbed

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I starred your post just because of your name

People, People..

Quit being so concerned about us smokers health. This has been drilled into us since the first puff. And I can say that the majority nof us smokers do respect and try to abide for the non-smokers. Smoking is not the only thing that you need to be concerned about. How about your job, can it be hazaerdous to your health? Do you live in a duplex, apartments, townhouse or condo? Close to a commercially zoned area?

Well check these out. You won't find many stats on these tho probably because these issues are too vague. You can't control it. There's no money to be had. If you weren't paranoid before, I bet you start to wonder now..

www.epa.gov...

Biological contaminants include bacteria, molds, mildew, viruses, animal dander and cat saliva, house dust, mites, cockroaches, and pollen (see more about Asthma triggers at www.epa.gov/asthma). There are many sources of these pollutants. Pollens originate from plants; viruses are transmitted by people and animals; bacteria are carried by people, animals, and soil and plant debris; and household pets are sources of saliva and animal dander. The protein in urine from rats and mice is a potent allergen. When it dries, it can become airborne. Contaminated central air handling systems can become breeding grounds for mold, mildew, and other sources of biological contaminants and can then distribute these contaminants through the home.

n homes, the most significant sources of formaldehyde are likely to be pressed wood products made using adhesives that contain urea-formaldehyde (UF) resins. Pressed wood products made for indoor use include: particleboard (used as sub-flooring and shelving and in cabinetry and furniture); hardwood plywood paneling (used for decorative wall covering and used in cabinets and furniture); and medium density fiberboard (used for drawer fronts, cabinets, and furniture tops). Medium density fiberboard contains a higher resin-to-wood ratio than any other UF pressed wood product and is generally recognized as being the highest formaldehyde-emitting pressed wood product.

Exposure to radon in the home is responsible for an estimated 20,000 lung cancer deaths each year. Radon is a health hazard with a simple solution. Read "A Citizen's Guide to Radon".

EPA's Office of Research and Development's "Total Exposure Assessment Methodology (TEAM) Study" (Volumes I through IV, completed in 1985) found levels of about a dozen common organic pollutants to be 2 to 5 times higher inside homes than outside, regardless of whether the homes were located in rural or highly industrial areas. TEAM studies indicated that while people are using products containing organic chemicals, they can expose themselves and others to very high pollutant levels, and elevated concentrations can persist in the air long after the activity is completed.

www.pueblo.gsa.gov...

unionsafe.labor.net.au...

en.wikipedia.org...

pediatrics.aappublications.org...

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Natural tobacco is a medical herb. It can be used and smoked without much concern.

However, industrial tobacco is laced with countless dangerous toxic chemicals. Many of them to increase the addictive qualities and increase sales.

Yep...and then they sell you the cure in gum or patch form...


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However, I have heard many times before, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is indeed true, that it is illegal to grow your own tobacco plants without permits and also the safer more medically useful strains of tobacco are illegal completely.

Yep...also true...basic human rights are being taken from us because of greedy corporations.

Quick, lets bring in the, I do not like what you are doing, so lets make it illegal police. Whether you agree or not with smoking, it is still a choice, a personal freedom that unfortunately I take part in. We are heading toward a Demolition Man style of living. If it unhealthy it is illegal. Look at soda and how it is linked to diabetes. While you may not agree with it, it is still a choice, freedom of choice will be completely gone from everything becausse of the health police. So please when you want to bash someone's personal living habits or style, remember I do not like coffee and it wires people up too much so we should ban it. Freedom is nothing to play around with, for everybody that bashes the simplist of freedoms, remember the next stop could be soda or candy bars, or those lovely little debby cakes that everybody loves.
P.S. I had a smoke rolled and ready to fire, I had to put in my two cents.
Please think about our personal freedoms, while not everybody enjoys it, it is still a freedom.
This is not directed at the op, just a general idea of where these health studies could lean towards.

Star and flag. I've never been a smoker, but everyone I know pretty much smokes. My parents, grandparents (they quit) and everyone in between including friends, girlfriends etc. And I never heard anyone of them say, "Boy this stuff is great!". In fact, the opposite. Time and time again have I heard, "I wish I could quit" or "this stuff is driving me broke". But they couldn't quit. (Only my grandparents did, my grandfather because of his lungs, my grandmother because she wanted too. She has a very strong willpower!)

Although I don't smoke, I do use smokeless tobacco like chew, Swedish "snus" and Oliver Twist. Unlike chew and snus which is placed between the lips, Oliver Twist can be chewed. And I'm afraid of what this stuff is doing to my health, but I just can't quit. In fact, I've gone over to the stronger brands.

I just don't have the will power, and this stuff is a serious crutch for me right now in this part in my life. And I suspect smoking is the same for many others.

Why does the US Surgeon General require a notice on cigarettes that they MAY cause cancer.....

When the Federal EPA waivered the TCE (trichloroethylend) pooled up and sitting in the bottom of the Guam Water Aquifer (water table).

That will definitely cause cancer...but the Federal Government waivered it...because they can't afford to clean their mess. Shouldn't the US Surgeon General then require the Cancer statement on Guam water?....Pepsi bottled there for example?

There's worse things than cigarettes the Fed turns a blind eye to....usually because it doesn't want to use it's own money to clean a mess it created.

Wouldn't that make the US Surgeon General a political propagandist? Federal Government can't officially endorse a product...but they are reverse supporting a product...hypocrisy?

The greatest cancer threat we face IS the Federal Government.

KEEP THEM LEGAL.

1.Good the people that are dumb enough to smoke them are not doing this planet any good, let them die.

2. Its a choice, any drug being marked illegal is un American. All drugs need to be legal. No more gangs profiting off of it, no more killings over it.

Originally posted by liejunkie01
Quick, lets bring in the, I do not like what you are doing, so lets make it illegal police.

ha haaa Fantastic!

If I'm one to believe studies (or take them with more than a grain of salt) I really think we should be focusing on obesity, liquor, and general corporate pollution as health hazards. But instead smoking is the villain.

The last 2 effect society as a whole rather than the individual who chooses to use and a 3 pack a dayer will outlive an obese person almost every time not to mention be in the hospital less.

I wish people would actually read studies and seek to understand before they jump all over these types of scare headlines!

Here is link to another press release of the same study

www.orlandosentinel.com...

Notice what is said - the scientists ADDED Phenanthrene to the cigarette smoke. It WASN't there in the first place.

Further, the study notes that the carcinogenic PAHs are in ALL smoke - like when you cook your food, when you light a barbeque, when you burn a candle, when you burn wood in a fireplace or in the car emissions when you burn fuel to run the car!

In short PAHs are ubiquitous to the environment! The dosage of PAHs in cigarette smoke is so low that it is measured in picograms (parts per trillion). Smokers are not exposed to PAHs anymore than anyone else Folks

And as for worried about DNA mutations - just remember that the human race - since time began has burned organics for heat and to cook food. Our entire race evolved in the presence of smoke! Our respiratory systems are designed to filter out particulate - including PAHs. The average molecule size of smoke is too large to be inhaled too deeply into our lungs.

And here comes the kicker - mucous in our lungs traps chemicals and particulate so that it can be easily coughed out. Smokers contantly irritate the lungs causing more mucous to be produced and protecting smoking from chemicals and particulate like PAHs from actually entering our lungs and causing these genetic mutations.

The basis for my opinion is this - since about the 1960s - when the smoking rate in our population started decreasing and we began heating our homes with cleaner sources of energy like electricity and natural gas - the asthma rate has increased by about 800 %. Scientists are unable to account for this enormous increase in asthma and allergies in children and talk about an almost evolutionary shift being the cause. However, study after study shows that children in households where the parents smoke have less asthma and less allergies.

So for all you non-smokers - you just keep puffing away on your asthma puffers (at $100 per month) and carrying your epi-pens all provided to you courtesy of Big Pharma (who funded this garbage study BTW) and I will keep getting the pleasure and benefits that smoking a natural healing herb provides. Smoking has been part of the human culture for hundreds of years and I notice that the human population is now about 7 billion.

BTW - since nicotene also controls TB - you all can have that disease too!