jared lee loughner- errie comment on someones myspace page about a weird bird!

reply to post by stu030273


ssshhhhhhh
turn off your caps lock, you're too loud

Reptilian birds eh?

cool

www.abovetopsecret.com...


A some what more coherent thought about dreams....but at the end he goes back to the double speak...

reply to post by Iamonlyhuman
Mind Control is very evident here. He even talks about some of the technique that is used on his video. They start with '___' or MDA or both, Sleep depervation until a person can appear awake, (to the point you wouldn't know they were asleep) then the hypnosis which done while a person is in this state has no defense against whatever they are told to do or say. They are then given a trigger that will instantly put them in this state, Music,a picture but seldom words. And insane person that was going to kill would not be capable of picking a target and being about to reach that target, they would just shot at random. Patty Hearst went through this, I was married into the family and her Aunt Elizabeth Campbell told me what they did to her. It was never in the news. The subject will be able to carry out anything the controller wishes after 72 hrs without sleep and can be controlled until up to 180 hrs. after that the subject starts dreaming while still appearing awake, then appears to be psychotic and rambles. The Key to this is finding the 50 year old man he was seen with. The authorities have a picture of him and if they wanted to find him so bad they would make it public. He was probably the controller.

The one thing that stood out to me was the list of books that he loved. I get a kick out of people blaming Sarah Palin. I don't like her, but I highly doubt this guy was listening to anything Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, or any other conservative talking head was saying. In fact, I'd bet his news source was MSNBC and the likes of Olbermann and Maddow.

His books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno

reply to post by snowspirit

sorry mate was that too deep? just freaks me out a bit though he mentions not to be afraid of the stars n that!

This guy made a couple of weird post here on ATS. Both contained ramblings about the year and date and then had a bunch of numbers. Here is one of them:


What is wrong or right with the current date?

How is the current date right or wrong?

Why is or isn't this the date?

When is or isn't the date ending or beginning?

Today is July 7th 2010.

Why is the year infinite in the date?

Example:
Today is July 7th 201062010654843578465784151015954324841895498201065484357846578415101595432484189549820106548435784657841510159543248418954982010654843578465784151015 954324841895498201065484357846578415101595432484189549820106548435784657841510159543248418954982010654843578465784151015954324841895498201065484357846 578415101595432484189549820106548435784657841510159543248418954982010654843578465784151015954324841895498201065484357846578415101595432484189549820106 548435784657841510159543248418954982010654843578465784151015954324841895498201065484357846578415101595432484189549820106548435784657841510159543248418 954982010654843578465784151015954324841895498201065484357846578415101595432484189549820106548435784657841510159543248418954982010654843578465784151015 954324841895498201065484357846578415101595432484189549820106548435784657841510159543248418954982010654843578465784151015954324841895498548435784657841 51015954324841895498

This will or will not continue in year for how long?


What are the viewers thoughts of a infinite year?



And then this one:

If 987,123,478,961,876,341,234,098,601,978,618 is the year in B.C.E. then the previous year is 987,123,478,961,876,341,234,098,601,978,619 B.C.E.


These numbers he posted may or may not mean something. Reminds me of the movie Knowing.
Could there be a message contained in these?

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I don't understand why the keep closing threads that make that connection? Are they being told by the FBI to do so? I am confused as to why threads would ever be closed. Doesn't ATS believe strongly in the freedom of speech and expression.
I never believe in censorship myself. If there are too many threads like this why don't they just explain why they don't want more threads about this. We are all intelligent if we get a reasonable explaination as to why threads are being closed then we don't have to speculate.

reply to post by navy_vet_stg3


The book that stands out to me is One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest! I like some of the same books - classics. But then I'm not 22 years old, far from it.

reply to post by IamAbeliever


Maybe he is is saying time has no meaning really. We just think it does. In his post he may be making a point about time and how it is infinite but why do we attach a number to it. This means trillions of years from now this date could go and on and on like in his post?
This seems like something you have to read between the lines.

Originally posted by dalloway
Okay, if someone already posted about this, I apologize. The if/then language patterns Loughner uses in his writings are a form of deductive and inductive reasoning known as conditional proofs. The format is used in theoretical philosophy. I took a class in logic and philosophy in my undergrad degree in which we were taught how to write them. The proofs themselves are known as syllogisms. They normally consist of three parts: a major premise, a minor premise, and a conclusion. Wikipedia has a decent entry on syllogisms here:

en.wikipedia.org...

Syllogisms also have a root in mathematical proofs, which have a similarity to sentence diagrams. We know that Loughner is very interested in language and grammar. He almost surely is familiar with diagramming sentences. I think it was the second Youtube account of his in which the posted video clip had something that looked like a sentence diagram. Here is a link to a .pdf file on diagramming sentences from the Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar:

www.ateg.org...

I thought it was important to get this nailed down and put out there for use in further dissecting this incident and figuring out what was going on in Loughner's head.

edit on 9-1-2011 by dalloway because: fix typo

edit on 9-1-2011 by dalloway because: another typo

I'm quoting myself above. I have something to add. Even his alleged ATS profile pic looks like a sentence diagram:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by dreamseeker


Probably because until the relevant authorities confirm that the shooter WAS in fact the poster in question, it is merely speculation.

No amount of comparisons between his Youtube rants and posts at ATS will EVER prove that they are one in the same - unless of course the poster has specifically stated their name, which did not happen.

FYI I think there is a connection, but until the authorities find out more it's best to let the topic lie - moreso in honour of those who died and their family and friends.

reply to post by IamAbeliever


Well it is repetition of numbers. I see a lot of the same sequence of numbers in the overall sequence.

repetitive , mantra like ,
almost hypnotic

have not gone throu all his ramblings but much of it reminds me
psycoactive induced "therapy" gone wrong ,
as somone else mentioned mk ultra isnt even that far fetched

question i have is more in the direction,
is it self inflicted hypnosis or
is this the doings of outside forces , ..

who knows mabye tomorrow i have a better picture of him
theres a structure to every bark

So ive been looking thru the postings that people believe are his...Well he dosent believe in Christianity and thinks its all a sham...He thinks Stephen Hawkings is a fraud...He feels that the current wars we are fighting are "war crimes"...Seems he dosent believe in aliens or UFOs....I dont know what to make of him to be honest...sometimes his thoughts are well thought out and coherent and at times just seem to be ramblings...

Originally posted by stu030273
reply to post by snowspirit

 

sorry mate was that too deep? just freaks me out a bit though he mentions not to be afraid of the stars n that!

Oh that's so much better, quieter
I don't thing there's a connection to the guy in the landfill.
The stars part was interesting, it makes you wonder what, if anything, he might have known or found out about. I don't think they even have a motive yet.

Someone on the news, Fox or CNN, also said that he was somehow in contact with the congresswoman's office in 2007, and that he was invited to where this shooting all went down. They often speak before they're sure of what they're saying though, so I don't know what to make of that statement.

Here is his ATS signature for those who would like to ponder.....

Stick Figure!
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more than a couple he actually has 130 posts dating back to 09 I do believe...Ive read thru most of them and have become more confused as to what he is trying to convey if anything at all...It seems as if he dosent believe in ANYTHING at all...or in h is replies to people just wants to confuse...

Originally posted by oswego
reply to post by BenIndaSun

 

also we need to verify about 65 days ago or more that a comet was seen near Arizona because he claims the bird came from a comet.

OK Phoenix AZ being almost on the 33 degree parallel and this bird is sounding Phoenix-like. In Metaphor at the least. This has got me thinking, a lot.

Weird stuff guys. I just thought I'd mention the congresswomans husband is an astronaut with NASA. It seems to be getting weirder.