A Dream? A Warning? You decide.

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reply to post by truthseeker1984

Hope this helps:
Suggested Interpretation: The subconscious mind operates in a covert manner, so to speak, yet its effects are very real and current. There are times when the subconscious set out true warnings in a precognitive sense. This is not the case here. This dream is wholly symbolic and testifies to the growing fear within you regarding recent events in your life. The beautiful space scene is symbolic of your subconscious mind. You are unaware of what is formulating in it yet you have a very curious interest in knowing the unknown of it. The triangle is reminiscent of a love triangle. You have fidelity towards one and desire toward another. Though this has been kept “secret” from you it is affecting you daily and tugging you apart. This is not necessarily a human relationship; it can be a career-oriented one and you are standing at the cleft of the abyss wondering what to do, which choice to make, which path to walk. The choice is already made within you, you just must retrieve it and bring it into full consciousness. The two parts of you that squabble about decisions are refusing to come into agreement and this is creating stress for you though you continue to be unaware of its(the stress) source. The “voice” is a warning to select the appropriate course of action. Pure subconscious symbology here. You are not being warned of imminent extra-terrestial invasion, you are being warned that a choice made solely from your mental field (logic) will not be a positive experience and will take years to recover from. The choice is not yours to make. It is an intuitive discovery which must be gained from the source of guidance within you. Logic creates a barrier in such situations such as this one as it is based in the ego rather than in the natural guiding force that all of us have to access whenever we can slow down enough to hear the voice. Having said that there may not be words spoken within you; the answer can manifest as a knowing, from a phrase in a newspaper, or spoken by someone which triggers the answer. This initially requires being in the neutral zone. That is the place without judgment. When we are neutral we cannot judge. When we are neutral the intuitive force is freed logic is set in its place and intuition flows forth. If you are accustomed to being surrounded by noise: people, music, TV and such then you need to turn it all off and go silent within yourself. Do not think. Just merge with your inner self and ask for the guidance to assist you to choose the appropriate path. The guidance is not always immediate and there cannot be failure it may be that you will need a few days or for the info to reach your awareness. Sitting in silence and quieting the mind is absolutely necessary on a regular basis. It need only be 5-10 minutes at first. You will be amazed.
Your Interpretation: There is a way for you to interpret this yourself. Have several sheets paper available and a few pens or pencils then itemize each object, everything you recall in the dream. Example: the bay window; the bolted chair; the TV, the east and the west walls; the floor ; your angle to these; how you look; the constellations; surrounding space; you get the idea. Free your by scribbling on one page. Do not think. You want to disengage from logic, from the mental field. Then jot down each item and intuitively write. It is a brain-storming which delivers the hidden meanings from your subconscious mind. Turn off your phones and be sure you will not be disturbed during this procedure. It is very enlightening.

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If this is all true, which I'm taking your word for, is absolutely insane! Too bad you didn't recall those events. And its even weirder that she forgot about it.

reply to post by Elderlight


Thank you for your thoughtful post. Being someone who does dream interpretation quite often, I can agree with 99% of what you have stated. My 1% of doubt comes with my personal experience with these types of dreams or visions. It is hard to describe in words the way that my entire essence feels after having a vision such as this. Like I stated in my initial post, I don't often post about dreams, if at all. I only post those that I deem as very important, and I share with the community at large to help me come to an overall consensus of what it could have meant. I really appreciate your insight and interpretation into this dream, and I've added it to my list of possible meanings for it.

Welcome to ATS!




Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

reply to post by Elderlight


I will agree that your interpretation is an excellent 'classic' symbology interpretation.

However, as per the OP, sometimes a dream is more than a personal crisis resolved - the subconscious is rather blunt when the meaning is clear...

When there is a sense of 'universal gravitas' associated with a 'cosmic-scale' dream, it is often the case that a genuine message for the benefit of more people than the dreamer alone can be incorporated in the symbology.

Maybe the fact that the OP takes the time to record dreams, values the messages they contain and is a member of a colaborative alternative forum (ATS) - maybe for these reasons, the collective unconscious (or as an alternative, some sort of entity) has utilised the positive approach of the OP in order to pass on the message to those that need to hear it.

I'm going to respectfully stand by my interpretation of 'impending false flag' as a message for the benefit of the community members with whom the OP has shared the information - though the dream could equally have many layers of meaning, including the ones you stated. In my experience though, the subconscious tends to refer to 'relationship issues' in a much more blunt, uncompromising and clear manner.

'Love triangle = Three stars in the sky' is a bit too vague - especially when combined with the over-arching theme; that a message is being imparted, regarding a cosmic-scale event to affect humanity at some future point. I firmly believe that by delving into this line of enquiry, the OP will have further dreams, clearly confirming or refuting that interpretation.

Here's a page from an excellent site (back on track with the reason I came to make a post in this thread tonight) which describes a new view of the Mind/Subconscious mind, as per mathematical models pertaining to multi-dimensionality of the universe and everything in it (our minds and thoughts included!)

A New View of the Nature of Mind and Thought

The Soviets (and doubtless the Americans too) have actively researched the implantation of thought and imagery in the subconscious, through the use of scalar electromagnetic signaling, and have reported positive results in causing certain images held in the subconscious to rise up into the conscious mind. This information (from an excellent and thought-provoking body of material in the site itself) lends credence to the idea of entities (motivations unknown - hopefully good) perhaps passing messages to humanity via (our) unconscious products of the dream-state.

If such entities are positive, and - as necessitated by the 'technology/spirituality' of such beings - telepathic also, then there's no reason to suspect that they could not impart multiple-interpretation 'layered' dream sequences to conscientious dream-students. Such students would faithfully record the dream - and, if the 'vibe' necessitates, go on to share those dreams with others in their immediate social setting (one vector of knowledge transfer would be a thread on ATS).

These layered dreams would provide the possibility of meaning on several levels - 'personal', 'group' and 'universal' as examples.

Just some food for thought anyhow... I've started to question the validity of some of my dreams as possible manipulations by external sources with malicious intent (see the notes on Soviet research on the page I linked - the groups I suspect are human in origin). But that's a whole other story. The positive (in my experience) outweighs the negative in this universe, and no matter how bleak our future (or our dream-life) appears, there's always a route through the chaos. I subscribe to a belief in an eternal and almighty Spiritual God - the source of all realities. Trust in that Source (faith in God) helps me to distinguish between truth and lies, positive and negative influences etc. We are all very privileged to have access to a means of sharing this information; indeed - that we have a life of relative peace within which to investigate our dream-life, philosophies and metaphysical theories is a blessing also.

reply to post by truthseeker1984


You are very welcome. The interpretation is not a personal mental feat for I went by inner GodCore guidance. It is a difficult task to bypass the mind/ego for it lusts for complete control but I have been practicing for years and have attained some ability to go into the neutral at times. The latter part about brainstorming really does work. Everyone interprets dream symbology according to their own experience, ergo, for me to attempt to cypher it would be lacking in accuracy to a great degree. The intuitive writing allows the subconscious to offer up its own personal meaning. For instance, should I dream of a raw almond it is a symbol of life, however, I know of a woman who's grandmother choked to death on an almond therefore it is a symbol of death to her.
I very rarely indulge in dream interpretation but, for some reason, your dream intrigued me. Happy to have been of service.
E.

I have no clue about the constellations and what not, but the TV, chair, etc remind me of dreams I used to have as a kid.. I used to have tons of nightmares all the time about really stupid stuff like Freddy Kruegar and The Gremlins, just because of the fact that I watched them late at night when I was too little to understand what was going on in the movies... but anyway, to get around the nightmares, I would close my eyes and picture a "dream machine" which was basically this big chair I sat in with a whole bunch of monitors all around it, covering the walls. Each one of the monitors was a different dream, and I could sit down and go through all of them one by one until I found the one I wanted to have. What's even more weird though is it actually worked for me, I stopped having nightmares all the time; however, I also had a lot of Deja Vu (I'd have some really weird dream that made no sense, then it would end up happening in real life) I know this sounds like a load of BS or something I'm taking out of a movie like 12 monkeys, but this stuff was going on in my head almost 30 years ago, way before 12 monkeys was even a movie.
That movie also has nothing to do with dreams but instead focuses on time travel. I'm just trying to create the imagery of the "wall of monitors". Anyway, just thought it was kind of funny.. any chance you've had any dreams like this at all too?

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Thank you for your thoughts.

Elder

I recently read a series of books called "Ringing Cedars of Russia". A very interesting set of books that I had heard about and felt a very strong desire to read them. 2 days later as I was posting a comment on youtube about a woman that goes by the name of jessicamystic1 video, I had replied to a post where a woman spoke of the series of books and I had replied stating how much I wanted to read them. Another 2 days past and someone contacted me offering to share the series via skype. To say the least I was elated. I have never felt such a desire for any book, much less a series. I began to read the set of 9 books and was totally enraptured by every word. After finishing the set, my mood was of both sadness that I could not read more, the other that I had felt elated by the message given.
The reason I bring this up is because in one of the books (sorry to say I don't recall which one) the character gave warning of aliens coming to the earth and would offer service to help us through this difficult time. However, it is a guise for them to take control over the planet earth. She said they would go to the Russian military and request to be taken to their leaders (not exact wording). The original series of books were written in Russia and may be the reason that she spoke of them going there, though who knows they could go to each large nation at the same time. These were human, not reptillian or any other type of humanoid. The difference being they were devoid of emotion. Their world they came from looked much like earth, with the exception that everything was ulitarian and everything was based on logic and science. She emplores the readers not to fall for the seduction of being saved by an alternate race.

If you have not heard of this set of books here's the basis to the story line.

Vladimir Megre was an entrepeneur. He would sail his ship up and down the Ob river in the region of Siberia, selling the locals items they needed and buying items from the locals that the city dweller's needed. On one trip he met 2 old gentlemen that were trying to convince him to go into the Siberian forest to chop down a 500 yr old Cedar tree. The tree is supposed to hold such energy that it promotes a connection spiritually and astounding health attributes for physical illness. However, they said he could not sell what he gathered from the tree, it had to be gifted to anyone that would accept it. Being a business man, the offer was not exciting for him and he flatly told them no. After returning to Moscow his curiousity of the cedar oil that was mentioned in the conversation (being healthfully benefitial) sounded like a great entrepenueral adventure. After doing a little research, he decided it was definitly worth his time and effort to go cut down the tree and make some easy money. He returned, but did not find the 2 old men, instead he found a woman waiting for him. Her name is Anastasia. Anastasia took him to the forest for 3 days and began to teach him many things. During those initial 3 days, she told him he would write a book and in it, he would be assisting her in helping people reconnect to nature and their own natural innate gifts. Anastasia was not reared in a city, nor even a house. She grew up in the forest of Siberia, where she now resides with her 2 children. Vladimir is the father. This experience changed him, but his life was not meant to live in the forest and he continues to live in civilization. The series tells another story of our history, a solution to our social/ecomical/eccological/spiritual issues. I would highly recommend anyone to read this set of books.

I'm not one that lives in a purely esoteric state of mind, I feel we must first learn about our bodies, then our earth and then to discover the universe and beyond. We can not hope for someone else to save us from our plight. Who would have us in our current state of mind, without knowing we have no achieved the ability to function as a unified humanity. At this point, we are only useful to be controlled to any other civilization.

So, in conclusion, I would say to trust your feelings that those who may come are not to be trusted to free us from our burdens.

I would like to post a dream I had. I have never been one to have cognitive dreams. I am not one of those people that have those dreams that come true later. However, this dream was far different from any I have ever had before. It was as real as any day I have lived in my waking state.

It began with me walking through what looked to be an industrial type building. There were work stations lined down both sides of a walk way that I was on. Each station appeared to be set up for hair, nails or make up. No one appeared to be in the building and I was drawn to voices some where beyond my view. I came upon a group of approximately 7 people. They were clustered in one area, some watching 2 people who were apparantly taking something that they didn't want anyone to know about. The others were watching out for anyone that may catch them in the action. They noticed me immediately and I could hear them via telepathy weighing out thier thoughts as to whether they should shoot me right off, or try to decide if I could be trusted. No one spoke a word verbally. I spoke up and said to them "Look, whatever you're doing, if it's part of the revolution, I'm on your side". Everyone breathed a sigh of relief and one man spoke up and asked if I had a car because theirs had broke down. I said yes and one man said "Great, but let me drive in case we run into any problems" and I agreed. We were driving down a 2 lane road, it was far from the city I would think, because the sky was enormous and the stars were big and bright enough to touch them. The air was chilly and I took a canvas that I kept folded in the bed of the truck and covered myself to break the wind as I laid down in the bed watching the stars above. Suddenly, I saw a round UFO and new it was not one of ours. I saw it shoot a beam across the sky that went out in the shape of an arrow that appeared to be some impulse of electricity or something like that. The next thing I saw was a bridge above me, as we were driving beneath it on the road and when we immerged from the other side, I saw a fleet of trianglular ships now engaged in a fight with the one circular ship. I knew in the dream that these were from our government. Suddenly, a police officer on a motorcycle that could fly via a propulsion device, but had 4 tires folded flat into the bottom of the air bike flew down to observe us. He made his decission not to engage with us and flew off back to his current position out of my line of site. Next, another ship flew down and followed us and I had the distinct impression that we were being scanned. Which, I think were from the one's on the government side vs. the extraterrestrial side. It then flew off and left us alone. The guy in the front got nervous I guess and yelled through the back window of the truck that we were going to head back. Upon returning the building was full of people. The stalls were filled with tech's doing hair, nail and make up. I saw my 2 sisters and my daughter sitting and awaiting there turn. We had a short conversation where they invited me to join them to get our toes done. I gave an excuse that I had something else to do and I would talk to them later. I walked down the path way I had originally with the feeling intuitively that all the nail/hair/make up artists and customer's were there as a cover up and were all on the side of the revolution. As I came to the end of the path I heard a deep, serious voice of a man telling someone "Look, I'm just here asking you some questions not to arrest you! If you want to cooperate fine, if not then yeah I'm gonna arrest you and take you in". I stopped dead in my tracks and turned around and headed back towards my girls were hanging out. I had realized that I needed to find my glasses and found them sitting on a table near them and left. Then I woke up.

This dream felt like it took hold of me. I could not forget a single detail of it, even though now it's been over 2 weeks ago since I had it. I can never hold onto my dreams in such detail and I dream every night, all night. I always enjoy my dreams, never being one that has suffered from nightmares or monsters. It's always felt more like my second life and I go there happily each night waiting to see what I did while I was asleep.

Through my studies in life I have learned that prophetic dreams are not always based on the current life we are in. Sometimes, they are and other times they are of other life times. Considering that I have never seen a motorcycle that can fly, I'm half of the mind that I will not see this in this life time. Maybe, that's merely my hopes. Take it for what it's worth. For me, I am still boggled by the physical reality feeling of it and the ability to recall it totally after so much time as passed. As, I said before, I do not have, nor have I ever had dreams that I hold total recall of all the minute details. I can still see the articles on the work stations, the lights in the ceilings, the details of the craft and the feeling of the cold, wind blowing that brought me to a shiver.

CosmicEgg, I found your post profound, beautiful and very much along my own line of thought on this entire topic. Just wanted to let you know that.

This is an interesting dream and I believe it is pointing to the TIME the so-called 'aliens' will be arriving.
In Revelation the Fifth trumpet is telling us of vampiric dragons (the aliens) and there is a clue as to the timing.

This triangle could be the Summer Triangle. Altair, Deneb and Vega are the three stars in this triangle.
Altair is in the constellation AQUILA. Deneb is in The SWAN and Vega is in LYRA(Harp)..
And it appears in the northern hemisphere during the summer months.
I've put a link to a good picture of it here.
stargeezeradio.com...

Before the dragons turn up, John sees a flying eagle. (Which is in the Summer triangle.)
In Rev 8v13 "Then I looked and I saw a solitary eagle flying in midheaven". Midheaven is where the stars are.
So five months during summer.

Believe it or not this is referring to an actual star;
WIkipaedia says;
"The name Altair has been used since medieval times. It is an abbreviation of the Arabic phrase النسر الطائر, an-nasr aṭ-ṭā’ir (English: The flying eagle). The term Al Nesr Al Tair appeared in Al Achsasi Al Mouakket catalogue, which was translated into Latin as Vulture Volans[17] This name was applied by the Arabs to the asterism of α, β, and γ Aquilae and probably goes back to the ancient Babylonians and Sumerians, who called α Aquilae the eagle star.[18] The spelling Atair has also been used.[19] The Koori people of Victoria also knew Altair as Bunjil, the Wedge-tailed Eagle, and β and γ Aquilae are his two wives the Black Swans."

(This could be another thread-Have you noticed about the Black Swans-Australia has just been hit by 2 natural disasters and they have Black swans.)

The Lie about the Aliens is that they are coming from Orion, no they are from underground, from their prison; 180 million of them and they are Nephilim =human hybrids that are cannibals and vampires. See Genesis 6

What IS coming from Orion is Nibiru/Destroyer, 'the Sun with healing in his wings' and is the Sword of Orion that is going to free Earth, once and for all, of the Nephilim & fallen angels.

They have been using UFOs to get around in this dimension.
BUT not all UFOs are from the earthbound demons (Satan was left with 20 million and he was cast down from Heaven after 1260yrs after Israel left Jerusalem, via the Star Wars between Michael & his angels and Satan & his fallen angels).
Some UFOs are back-engineered from USA, some are from Agarta/Shambala (North and South Pole in Earth's navels) which are Messiah believers. And yet others are Nazis that have a base at Antartica.
So if you see one Claim the blood of Jesus over you and say Yehovah at them, they run. (I personally can vouch to this.)

So don't trust UFO occupants at all unless they say they believe Jesus came as the Messiah & is coming again.
If you don't then wear iron.

Great dream though.
I am always having prophetic dreams as are my two teenagers.

I dreamt in Jan 2010 that a hotspot was under my shed but it wasn't burning down. A voice said you need to get more food. I went with my partner to the supermarket and bought some more food but another hotspot appeared in one of the aisles and the supermarket had to be evacuated. This time people got burned. We had bought our food just in time. This happened during a heatwave, as my partner was wearing shorts (this almost never happens).
So the first hotspot was the Iceland volcano that happened exactly on my birthday, and the next one will be during a heatwave.
Still waiting.

this sounds like its striaght out of the arthur c clarke novel childhoods end. aliens come to earth in massive space ships and no one gets a chance to see or speak to them except one man who is chosen as a diplomat to relay their messages. he gos into a large empty room with a two way mirror he cant see past and talks to the aliens. when he finally gets a glance at the other side of the mirror he notices how big the chair is that the alien sits in.

you should look it up

Some years ago i had quite a vivid dream involving visitation by some strange beings who opened up my living room floor and showed me the spirial galaxy with amazing hubble like detail and scope. I wish i could remember all the dialouge but the only thing I do remember them saying to me is "beware of the sixth dimension" before they left.

Back then when i had the dream i had no awareness of multiple dimensional realities or theories.

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...i have this old book - your horoscope and your dreams - 25,000 interpretations of the predictions of the sun, moon and stars and of the messages received in sleep - by ned ballantyne and stella coeli - franconia publishing - copyright 1940, 1958, 1966, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972...

...my daughter stole it, errr, uh, borrowed it for a while (years) but i finally got it back... i dont believe in any of this but its interesting and fun - kind of like putting puzzle pieces together... so, since i dont have anything better to do tonight, i'm gonna type up what the book says about keywords in your dream (even if they dont seem to apply to your dream)...

...ready?... okay, here we go...

...room... to dream of opening a door and going into a room is a warning not to trifle with the affections of one of the opposite sex... if the room is furnished, the omen is that someone will be jealous of you... if unfurnished, you are likely to be sued... if you dream of occupying a small room and being slowly suffocated, you will have a narrow escape from a major catastrophe...

...bay window... it is an augury of pleasant hours ahead if you dream of looking out of a bay window... if one or more of the windows are broken, you will change your address...

...television... to dream of seeing an important public event on television portends greater activity and more profits in your business... it is bad luck to dream of seeing a hanging or electrocution by television...

...chair... to dream of sitting in a comfortable chair is a good sign... if the chair causes you discomfort, the sign is not propitious...

...bolts... you may expect that formidable obstacles will oppose your progress... if the bolts are broken or old, you will not succeed in your expectation...

...buttons... if you dream of sewing colored or shiny metal buttons on any kind of a uniform, you will win the love of a rich and handsome person... a young man having this dream has a good chance of receiving an appointment to a fine military school... cloth buttons or those that have become tarnished are a portent of poor health and money losses... to lose a button from a garment is an indication that you will suffer embarrassment...

...evening... if your dream is concerned with a summer's night luminous with moonlight, it signifies a case of love at first sight... if you see the evening star in the sky and make a wish, happiness will be yours and the future will be very rosy...

...sky... a dream of a colorful sky either at sunset or sunrise portends a hectic love affair that will come to nothing... a sky that is laden and gray is a prediction of making a good friend who will stick by you through thick and thin...

...star... to dream of a certain bright star predicts that through the help of a friend of the opposite sex, you will be able to achieve an ambition of long standing...


...nothing on constellations, night, triangle, geometric shapes, voice or warning... if you think of any other particulars, let me know and i'll look em up... now i'm gonna read the rest of the thread and see if anyone guessed the same thing this book did...

Originally posted by asher
this sounds like its striaght out of the arthur c clarke novel childhoods end. aliens come to earth in massive space ships and no one gets a chance to see or speak to them except one man who is chosen as a diplomat to relay their messages. he gos into a large empty room with a two way mirror he cant see past and talks to the aliens. when he finally gets a glance at the other side of the mirror he notices how big the chair is that the alien sits in.

you should look it up

Very interesting asher. I haven't really read much Arthur C. Clarke, and to be honest, haven't heard of this story before you mentioned it. The dream definitely had a very large chair in the middle of the room, as you can see from my original post, and what I perceived to be a television screen. I'm almost certain it was because it wasn't built into the wall. I felt more or less that it was hanging from the wall.

Thanks for the book recommendation! I'll definitely look it up!


Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

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Wow Wyn! I'm flattered by all the time that you took to write all of that down! I own a few different dream interpretation books and none of them even touched on the subject of this particular dream. The interpretations from your book don't exactly fit the bill either, sadly, but it does answer some of the questions I've had about interpretation of other dreams that I have had in the past. This particular dream was just far too intense to push aside as a regular night time fantasy.

I really do appreciate all the work you put into the interpretation, and I have copy/pasted it into my dream journal. It might be useful for dreams I may have in the future.


Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

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...you're welcome... didnt take me long... i'm a real fast typer... besides it was fun... was surprised to find "bay window" - really didnt expect that... next time you're at library, see if you can find that old book... its never been accurate for me but its still kinda neat...

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Hey man,

I was having a conversation about outworldly experiences with my girlfriend, and the significance i felt of it all, even though i know not much about these things. Anyways, about a year ago she had a dream of these men standing above her from space, they were telling her and other people around her about the constellation of Orion. At the time she said that she couldn't fully remember it all, but the one thing that she definately remembered spot on, was the man telling her, "you MUST remember Orion, it is VERY important, do not forget this". She said it was like they couldnt stress how important it was, and kept telling her that over ánd over again. There were 2 men, and they were dressed in blue.

Now this is coming from someone, who has absolutely no prior knowledge of constellations, aliens, or whatever reptillian conspiracy that's out there. Funny enough, about 20minutes after she told me about it, while pondering about it staring blankly into the distance, my eyes coincidentally was looking at a deodorant called Orion.. I know it sounds dumb an all, but for me this wasn't mere coincidence, because i had never seen nor heard about this brand before - as dumb as that sounds. It was around this time too, that i was already delving into these paranormal or spirituality stuff, which i have had some profound experiences - but that's offtopic.

So here we are talking about this stuff again, and my girlfriend came across this thread, which to me, sounds awfully similar - well in the message that was given. Coincidence? I do not know. Your dream just makes it all the more significant. Earlier on i was just watching a video on UFOlogy - about bits of automatic writings, when put together with other bits from other writers around the world create some kind of story that begins to make sense. Who knows?

Anyways just thought i'd join the forums to share this