A Dream? A Warning? You decide.

Originally posted by truthseeker1984
Interesting and varied replies so far. Thank you all for posting.


I just wanted to reiterate, however, that I was not seeing Orion. Orion was only a point of reference. I was seeing a triangular constellation about 15-20 degrees East of Orion, and about 10-15 Degrees North of that point.
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-truthseeker

Only thing I could find that stood out on google sky was this:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/e0c338a69e56.jpg[/atsimg]

It's more or less 15 degrees higher than orion and about the same distance to the right of it.

Originally posted by an0maly33

Originally posted by truthseeker1984
Interesting and varied replies so far. Thank you all for posting.


I just wanted to reiterate, however, that I was not seeing Orion. Orion was only a point of reference. I was seeing a triangular constellation about 15-20 degrees East of Orion, and about 10-15 Degrees North of that point.
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-truthseeker

Only thing I could find that stood out on google sky was this:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/e0c338a69e56.jpg[/atsimg]

It's more or less 15 degrees higher than orion and about the same distance to the right of it.

That's it!

What constellation is that? That's for looking that up for me!



Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

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I can't find a name for that specific formation, but it looks like it might be part of Taurus.

Leftmost looks like it's Aldebaran, upper is Pleiades, not sure of the lower right one.

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I'm gonna have to go download some star charts and figure it out now. I'm starting to wonder what the significance was of the constellation in general. I think the constellation in the dream had far more importance than the message that came across.



Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

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What I find interesting is that I occasionally hear about Aldebaran and the Pleiades in relation to alien topics. Seems a bit coincidental at least that you fingered that area in the sky. Assuming you had no knowledge of those stars/clusters actually being in that location it becomes very interesting.

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No clue before now. I knew about those particular star clusters before, but not where they lie in the sky. My specialty is the paranormal, not ufology or even astronomy. Now I'm really going to have to do some research on this. I'm just a little more than shaken by all of this (and this is considering the fact that I deal with the paranormal a lot).



Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

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Excellent work, thanks for looking that up!

Taurus is a zodiacal sign associated with the god Marduk, of Babylon - in Egypt, Marduk was known as Ra.. Marduk/ Ra was the son of the god 'Enki'. There was apparently a big fuss over his 'destiny-determining time' for assuming lordship over his section of humanity, in Babylon, when he had to wait extra time before taking up his throne (it was down to a controversy surrounding the rules of succession that the gods adhered to).

Could the dream indicate that a 'destiny-determining time' is approaching humanity? A time when we will individually and collectively face experiences that lead one way or other to our respective destinies?

In the folklore I'm aware of, Marduk/Ra didn't particularly care for mankind. The fact that 'his' zodiacal symbol is associated with this dream is interesting. I'm still of a mind that the dream refers to a false flag event, and I would guess that Marduk/ Ra's sign is a reference to either:

a) The source of the false flag (a 'god' acting in tandem with the shadow government);
b) The actual source of the dream - a 'god' whose father, Enki, favoured mankind and may now be acting to warn us of deception in our midst.

Or:

c) My interpretation is entirely wrong and it's a genuine warning that aliens who don't like us very much are on their way to destroy/ subjugate us!

NB - for the benefit of the 'comedy guys' who may show up, there's always option 'd' - that we're all nuts for thinking dreams have any messages to impart. I don't subscribe to that option, due to my experience of receiving various beneficial messages in dreams over the course of my lifetime.


Incidentally, the 'gods' of olden times, imho, represent an extraterrestrial race who were questing across the universe, seeding civilisations, and in general just 'lording it up' (similar to the mythos of Stargate Universe et al - screenwriters often get their ideas from funny places...)

The possible existence of ET 'gods' (who may have been genetically similar to us) doesn't detract from the possible existence of an omnipotent spiritual "God with a capital 'G'.." - I'm still technically refining my worldview, and haven't quite resolved all of the different aspects of:

a) - my subjective spiritual experiences;
b) - my scientific awareness, and
c) - my understanding of the possibilities of ET gods in Sumer (and all over the world) in ancient times.

Science, Religion and Mythology all share different patches of common ground, and elements of "Truth with a capital 'T'.." Dream-work is an important tool in the quest for spiritual Wisdom, but also as a means by which to gain actual Knowledge and Understanding too (if we approach the interpretation carefully, as a resource to support further research in key areas).

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The triangle star formation you mentioned really resonated with me.
If I may share - I went camping about 2mths ago near a lake that is a popular fishing/boating spot for locals.
It's really quite isolated and about 2hrs drive from the nearest rural community...

That night my friend and I stayed up all night tending the fire since at that time in that region it was too cold too sleep,
so we just revelled in the pure unsullied starlight and that was incredible! The moon rose quite late, probably 3.30am or so... but we were in a bowl style gully completely surrounded by low ridges so if it was just low in the sky we wouldnt have spotted it, but anyways, I mentioned to my friend that I had never notice quite how many stars formed almost perfect triangles across the night sky... I had actually noticed it a little before but that night I thought it seemed like evry second grouping of stars were 3-4 clustered in a perfect triangle...
Oh, and when I stargaze I always find my bearings with the Southern Cross and Orion and I just really clicked with your dream.

Wag

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I've always felt a connection with Orion, and I think that seeing Orion in my dream, like I said before, was only a landmark for me to discover what the other constellation was. Thank you for sharing!

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Fly-

I have read some of those stories before. I find them quite fascinating due to the fact that I could almost believe that instead of stories, they were actually historical facts. Of course, once you add the religious spin to the whole works, you have a whole other heap of trouble. There are too many pieces of "evidence" out there to suggest that something bigger was going on in our ancient history than what the "skeptics" or "accredited archeologists" say is tangible and concrete. I don't believe that any of these stories go into the realm of pseudoscience or even fiction. I have a strong belief, if not just a "feeling" that these things actually happened, and were described to the best of the abilities of the people living at that time. The stories from these past civilizations resonate more with me than the "officially accredited stories." This isn't even to mention still unexplained stories from the Vedas, and from the Sumerian Civilization. Thank you for your explanation! I'm definitely going to do some heavy reading and researching tonight. I want to find out if this dream really meant something.




Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

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let me be the insane sob who will turn out to be correct soon enough!

grey's are the enemy of the "gods" the "gods" being the aliens who the greeks,romans,and vikings all worshipped!

blonde muscular thor type aliens!

the ones who influenced hitler to believe blonde hair blued eyed people were the perfect race!

Weird dream dude but all and all I think (as do others I see) your on to something Its interesting how you manage to even be able to point out the stars you saw in it, btw I remember reading about some aliens from that area but I don't remember who they were though.

Just a small question, What did this voice sound like to you? I've had some weird dreams in my times but often some of the weirdest things I remember often had this voice in them. It was a mans voice and often he would point out or say things that focused me to different things and all these were related to aliens directly or indirectly. The odd thing was it wasn't a gental voice or nice at all and often I felt like he was just testing me for his own reasons, which most of the times he was testing me... I think there is a connection with alot of these dreams and I'm thinking about creating a thread to try to find out more about this kind of stuff

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The fact that I could point out the stars in it is what concerns me, and fascinates me at the same time. The message of the dream was more relating to the stars than the voice on the television. To answer your question, the voice was a woman's voice. It was deeper, almost an alto voice, but it was very authoritative. It was almost commanding me not to trust what was "coming from there" referring to the stars.


I looked at my dream journal again, and I neglected to add a little tidbit at the end. After the droning of the woman's voice in my dream, the screen turned on. It was the face of one of my friends here on ATS. This member's eyes were staring me down as if they were warning me of something as well. I don't think it was that relevant to the dream, however. I think if you take the "warning" away, I think the important aspect was the star chart.



Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

Originally posted by truthseeker1984
In any case, my eyes keep getting drawn to a triangle shaped constellation.

Sounds like you are describing Canis Major, there is more to it than three stars forming a triangle, but those three stars outshine the rest, and on a polluted night, they might be the only three visible.

EDIT: Found a pic for you...........

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Betelgeuse is actually on Orion's shoulder while this triangle formation was East of Orion in the sky. I appreciate your addition, but I think we've got the constellation pegged down.





Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

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Hmm that is odd that you found that. It could be a sign that you were suppose to notice so that u'll remember the dream or at keast take it seriously- and that is weird how the voice sounds like that because that's how the guy was to me (if I were to try to label the voice I'd say he sounds like a scientist or tester from his tone) An event that is kind of similar to yours involved a subliminal message I think where I was told to watch this video clip and I felt like I should avoid looking at a certain spot but then I was told to watch is again and to "Focus more, do you see the sheep now?" right then I was face to face with this "sheep" with blue eyes and white hair (though it looked like a cartoon character) but had the eyes of a grey. Then I felt my head start pulsing and I felt like my head was being crushed then I woke up paralyzed and in pain (couldn't even scream) the weird thing is I could of swore I saw a figure flee the room for those seconds I was subdued and after it left I was able to move.

This was one of my 5 wake up calls that have happened last year in that these weren't "normal" dreams for me.
I feel like theres something I should remeber or keep but I can't pin down what it is but I feel its important, thats what your dream is like for you right?

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It's exactly what I feel when I have dreams like these. I remember them vividly. I always remember them for weeks or months afterward...that's why I usually write the important ones down. This was definitely one of the important ones. I'm going to do some reading tonight so that I can come up with something else concrete relating to this dream. I'm not letting this one go that easily. It's too important (or seems to be) to forget about it.




Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

reply to post by truthseeker1984


Peace to you to
I'm trying to do the same, idk why its just recently it seems really important for me to remember those heavy hitting dreams and so I'm using this drive to figure some stuff out...

Good luck on your research

Obviously it is referring to an alien race when they say "they." They are from the orion constillation from some star system. They are also malevolent, and to be feared by humanity.

It could always be your wild imagination like you said.


S + F!

Originally posted by truthseeker1984

My first thought was that Auriga is a triangle shaped constellation, and there are a lot of stars in it. Some of those stars have planets.
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The other thing I wanted to share which you may find interesting, even if it doesn't help you, is that just last night I had a dream about the stars in patterns, constellations perhaps, but I couldn't see them clearly. I have dreams of this sort quite often now, and the arrangements change before my eyes sometimes and sometimes they stay stationary, like they are constellations, but I don't know what they are. Anyways, here's the dream:

I was walking home from a place (not sure if it's relevant, but it was a church event where I wasn't welcome anymore, so I left) and there was ice on the road I was walking on, I started sliding a little and when I looked up at the sky I saw the stars in patterns and then saw a hand kinda floating along, it was translucent blue and I wanted to look at the stars, but it held my attention too much. However, I could still see the stars peripherally. There were a few people walking with me and thinking I was imagining it, I said, “ Do you guys see that too?” and someone said “It's the hand of God.” Next thing I knew I was in my old friend's house, she is a pagan. When I first walked in, I saw a lovely baby in a cradle and then I had a vision of her being deformed and strange looking. I told my friend I think it happened during Lughnasadh. Then we both laughed as I realized Lughnasadh was in August and it was winter time at the moment (like now) so it couldn't possibly have happened during Lughnasadh as it just happened before my eyes and it was still winter. It seems to me now that what I saw was a vision and it was going to happen at the time of that celebration, in August. The rest of the dream was us just hanging out and talking, catching up.

Obviously, my dream may have nothing to do with yours or anything at all, but I wanted to share just the same. Maybe it could cause something to resonate with you. So to recap: Auriga, Lughnasadh, deformed baby. Those seem to stand out to me.

This last year, knowing I and my wife have gone through some odd things. She told me one morning that we were taken and she was given a personal message while with these folks. These folks were as many describe, Nordics. This gal has no background in any of this, in fact avoids all of this as nonsense. If this is so, they are already here.

She tells me they were actually nice guys, tall and in fine condition, all handsome but silent and cult like. She even remembered they had blue uniforms. The wold they showed her was amazing with light emanating from within, not being reflected. I throw this into the mix as they seem to be concerned about our spiritual involvement from what she tells me even though she tells me I was there, but a little out of it as I don't remember personally yet can fill in details.

The ship if that is what it was, was sculpted in nature with many cubicles and inside these were beautiful items. IN case you wonder if this is credible, I learned to take her serious when her mind became a blank about it a week later including her telling me. This repeated three more times. Are they friends or otherwise, I suppose we have to follow our inner voice on this, but she wants to go to that world that was shown her from above the clouds, it was heavenly in her words.