whats up with all the pro-islam sentiment in the US... heres a little reminder of what were up again

Originally posted by WJjeeper
ONCE AGAIN this thread is not a racist/hate thread. this thread is just a reminder to all those who forgot what happened and is happening right now. call me a racist fear mongerer, i dont care. i just dont like the thought of the US becoming an islamic state. and lets be real our presidents name is "Barrack Hussein Obama". what REAL faithful "christian" changes his name from Barry to Barrack, because his father was a muslim? maybe Obama is really a muslim? makes NO sense to me.

edit on 29-12-2010 by WJjeeper because: (no reason given)

Niether religion should have anything to do with anything, they are both fantasies, people who believe in these fantasies should not be allowed power over the real & tangible.

the separation of church & state.

-B.M

Originally posted by Skippy1138
reply to post by recreateaplace

 

Point denied
You can't compare one nutjob killing a doctor to an organized movement who's aim is to eradicate everyone who's not Muslim......

You read the old testament of late? I'm not sure I'd press that point.

Originally posted by seedofchucky

Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
reply to post by seedofchucky

 

You have just backed up my claims for me - even with those selected verses - read them more carefully, refusal to submit to Islam = fighting Islam = legitimate target = the whole infidel world = what they have been doing for 1400 yrs!

You see how it violates scripture ? This is the problem with alot of muslims today , They hardly know there own scripture and religion. Its the preachers who bend it to suit there agenda . The quotes dont lie

Does Islam recommend or justify killing of disbelievers or those who decide to leave the religion? The answer is an emphatic "No". God makes it very clear in the Quran, that there is no compulsion in religion (2:256). Free will is one of God's precious gifts to humanity, and human beings cannot take away what God gave man. If someone does not wish to believe, they are to be left alone and not forced in any manner. A submitter's (muslim) job is simply to invite people to God's religion with kind enlightenment (16:125

www.submission.info...

Well I know the problem with a lot of western apologists for Islam is that they have been fed a whitewashed version of it by the muslims they talk to.

Take that 'no compulsion in religion' verse - are you not aware of the distinction between Meccan and Medina verses?

In Mecca Mo was all sweetness and light - trying to get the jews to accept him as their new prophet, he managed to recruit about ten followers a yr, until they ejected him.

He then went to medina where he preached jihad and intolerance and began bandit raids rewarding his followers with the booty,slaves etc - he attracted followers by the thousand!

The Meccan verses are ABROGATED by the later Medina verses - did you not realise that? - or were you just trying to pull the wool over our eyes?

reply to post by WJjeeper


Two sides to the story

I don't understand what your intentions are regarding this thread, there is always two sides to the story, are you suggesting the other side shouldn't be heard, and should be forced to mute?

Should only one side of the story flourish?

Mohammad mecca to medina

Originally posted by JohhnyBGood

Originally posted by seedofchucky

Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
reply to post by seedofchucky

 

You have just backed up my claims for me - even with those selected verses - read them more carefully, refusal to submit to Islam = fighting Islam = legitimate target = the whole infidel world = what they have been doing for 1400 yrs!

You see how it violates scripture ? This is the problem with alot of muslims today , They hardly know there own scripture and religion. Its the preachers who bend it to suit there agenda . The quotes dont lie

Does Islam recommend or justify killing of disbelievers or those who decide to leave the religion? The answer is an emphatic "No". God makes it very clear in the Quran, that there is no compulsion in religion (2:256). Free will is one of God's precious gifts to humanity, and human beings cannot take away what God gave man. If someone does not wish to believe, they are to be left alone and not forced in any manner. A submitter's (muslim) job is simply to invite people to God's religion with kind enlightenment (16:125

www.submission.info...

Well I know the problem with a lot of western apologists for Islam is that they have been fed a whitewashed version of it by the muslims they talk to.

Take that 'no compulsion in religion' verse - are you not aware of the distinction between Meccan and Medina verses?

In Mecca Mo was all sweetness and light - trying to get the jews to accept him as their new prophet, he managed to recruit about ten followers a yr, until they ejected him.

He then went to medina where he preached jihad and intolerance and began bandit raids rewarding his followers with the booty,slaves etc - he attracted followers by the thousand!

The Meccan verses are ABROGATED by the later Medina verses - did you not realise that? - or were you just trying to pull the wool over our eyes?

Deny ignorance here .


Mohammad Mecca to medina

Originally posted by Redwookieaz
I believe IMHO we have a great deal more to fear from our own oppressive government that uses a small group of Muslim extremists as an excuse than anything else.

There are indeed Muslim extremists and there will continue to be as long as the US government continues with an imperialist foreign doctrine. How would we feel if say Chinese troops were in the US, "to save us from our evil government?" I'm not saying I'm ok with terrorism but I understand the anger and ignorance that breeds the behavior.

Now with all that being said, most of these people are broke, uneducated, small groups, on the other side of the world.

The US government, which uses them as an excuse to take away my rights under the ILLUSION of better security, is right here, all around us.

I do not fear what these people, in their ignorance and frustration can do. I do fear what is being done in their name.

edit on 29-12-2010 by Redwookieaz because: fat fingers

This small group of broke, illiterate people your talking about were responsible for 20 out of 21 armed conflicts in the world when we went into Afghanistan.

Originally posted by filosophia
You can really tell how they dulled down on the propaganda. While this video is fake for many different reasons, the lack of resistance on the part of the prisoner, the editing a moment before his head is removed, the fake looking head with the extremely small amount of blood dripping out of it, however it is still more exciting then what they are pumping out these days: Bin laden decrying man made global warming. Sheesh. The war on terrorism is becoming the war of retardism.

Oh that's ok.

Google Eugene Armstrong then, if you want to be sure what happens.

Really, google Eugene Armstrong Beheading.

And then worry about it.

reply to post by ScepticalBeliever

however, compare the amount of damage terrorists and insurgents have done in total, to the British/American tag team combo on Afghanistan and Iraq..it's really nothing.

Anything they do is reaction to the extremist terrorist threat! They get all they deserve! - Long Live the mighty Coalition! You have your statement mixed up! These extremist actions have now spread to the US! Not only that Britain & France as well!. This is because the Western nations believe in freedom speech & the extremist muslim lack of tolerance to any other lifestyles than their own = Deadly mix! Extremist numbers are building & they hide among moderate & non practicing Muslims. it will be only for a while Extremist Muslims will be crushed!

so, obviously my thread has been turned into a social propaganda flame battle. ive been out of town working, sorry i havent replied to any questions or comments.

my purpose of this thread was to see the majority opinion on the issue at hand. im not a biased, racist, islam hater.

READ MY FIRST DAMN POST! Islamic FUNDAMENTALISTS! meaning the A-holes who DO act upon their screwed up interpretations of the quran, cutting heads off and what not. I know muslim people, im not scared that they may blow up a gas station or kill everyone in the area with a dirty bomb, im not even scared they may cut my head off with a dull serated blade... ha ha.

im fearful of an individual (or group of individuals), that may have the manpower and firepower to accomplish a certain set of goals to control the masses. whether its Islam itself or another backroom group of individuals that wants to use Islam as a method of control, it is obvious that the "resistance" (or whatever the "extremists" call it) is getting stronger and there are more and more political takeovers, corporate takeovers, and social takeovers made by these kind of people.... the "extremists".

if anyone has anymore questions i will try and respond as quickly and fairly as possible. And thank you all for the "colorful" posts, exactly what i was shooting for! Keep em comin guys!

reply to post by WJjeeper


So you advocate continuing to push an agenda of fear towards Muslims?

Did you read the name of this site? (Abovetopsecret) Did you read the motto of this site? (Deny Ignorance)

This isn't Red State, Conservapedia or any of those ridiculous right-wing nutter sites.

Refusing to engage in fear tactics against Muslims does not make one a support of fundamentalism.

In other words, despite what your math book told you, 2+2 does not equal 5.

reply to post by phatpackage


I think the person you quoted had a point.

We're not fighting extremists over there. We're protecting "assets" to the western nations.

When people do attack, it's because they don't want our sorry asses in their countries.

Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by WJjeeper

 

So you advocate continuing to push an agenda of fear towards Muslims?

Did you read the name of this site? (Abovetopsecret) Did you read the motto of this site? (Deny Ignorance)

This isn't Red State, Conservapedia or any of those ridiculous right-wing nutter sites.

Refusing to engage in fear tactics against Muslims does not make one a support of fundamentalism.

In other words, despite what your math book told you, 2+2 does not equal 5.

edit on 31-12-2010 by The Sword because: (no reason given)

another person twisting words to serve his own right self-righteousness. i never said you are looked at as an extremist if you disagree with my opinions... i just think your an idiot

Originally posted by WJjeeper
WARNING! Explicit material! probably offensive to most audiences!

www.liveleak.com...

Islam, a religion of peace.

well, maybe you should be reminded why muslim people are joining extremists in the first place:



and this is just the tip of the iceberg

talking about ignorance

US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies'

Twelve American soldiers face charges over a secret "kill team" that allegedly blew up and shot Afghan civilians at random and collected their fingers as trophies.

source

there is more:







etc...

Have you seen what the Irish catholics and protestants have done in the UK in their stupid war? We should ban all religious fundamentalists! When we look at the current terrorist threat it is necessary to understand it is fundamentlist in nature. Do you know how many moslems have setteled since the start of the 20th century who just go about their lives peacefully????

Is disagreeing with the OP being soft on Islam?

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Tony Blair's sister-in-law Lauren Booth converts to Islam after a 'holy experience'

typical war Criminal family member converts to Islam,

Islam is not a religion, Women became slaves yet men have the right more wives? thats pretty sick twisted actually.

I have already seen what Islam has done to Bosnia, I don' want it in Canada Nor America

reply to post by WJjeeper


I called you out on it. Obviously, you're going to run.

Then again, those with nothing better to say/do will stir the pot.

18+ Beheading Of Russian Conscript By Muslim Swine
WARNING!! GRAPHIC!!

This happened during the first full scale islamic jihad invasion into western nations in 1999 - Invasion of Dagestan. Yes, there was islamic invasion in 1999! So claims that islamic Jihad is only reaction to recent western invasions into Afghanistan and Iraq is simply false. Invasion into Dagestan also didnt have support of majority of local population, contrary to our invasions.

reply to post by The Sword


called me on what? all you did was cut out majority of what i wrote, and replied to maybe one or two sentences. im not running from anything, you just havent proven a logical point. all you did was start ranting and raving about conservatism, and right wingers fear tactics. like i said earlier, im non-partisan. and its up to you if you want to be fearful, this thread wasnt about starting fear.

IF YOU TOOK TIME TO READ THE FIRST POST, you would see I was simply trying to prod peoples memories of the unsightly happenings that islam brings to our daily lifes.