Aztecnology = Biotechnology

Awesome thread stars for you my friend. There is alot to be said for Ancient
cultures and the knowledge and wisdom they had. It is a far cry from today
where everything has a price tag on it. I once read a story (can't remember the
name of the book) where a man went to the doctor because he had cancer.
The doctor said sign the release form and we will take samples of your blood
however not until the release forms are signed. The man signed the release
forms and the doctor ended up making a cure for cancer based on the mans
Dna.

What happens then is that the doctor ends up patenting the cure based on the
mans dna and ends up charging the man for using his own dna to save him.
Meanwhile the doctor ends up becoming a billionaire and the man ends up
broke because of the high medical bills and doesn't end getting a piece of
the pie because he signed the release forms. There is a moral here for sure.
We know we are in sad times when we can not even use our own bodies to
cure ourselves without someone attaching a price tag to that cure.

reply to post by Mr. D


Mr.D,

Can you be more specific please? There are many types of cancers and some can be cured and some cannot (at this time). The whole release forms sounds like this was something experimental and that this patient has gone through all treatment options that have not helped him/her and the doctor was basically telling him that this might actually kill you because this ( whatever procedure he was doing ) has not undergone clinical trials.

Name of the doctor would help and the hospital this was done would actually help. The blood test sounds very normal. It might have been something that the doctor was looking for, some overexpression of a gene that causes the particular cancer. As an example, there is a drug called Herceptin that is used for breast cancer patients who overexpress HER2 gene.

The reason I ask for this is because things like this can be checked out easy via publications on the net.

Originally posted by gsup1
reply to post by Mr. D

 

Mr.D,

Can you be more specific please? There are many types of cancers and some can be cured and some cannot (at this time). The whole release forms sounds like this was something experimental and that this patient has gone through all treatment options that have not helped him/her and the doctor was basically telling him that this might actually kill you because this ( whatever procedure he was doing ) has not undergone clinical trials.

Name of the doctor would help and the hospital this was done would actually help. The blood test sounds very normal. It might have been something that the doctor was looking for, some overexpression of a gene that causes the particular cancer. As an example, there is a drug called Herceptin that is used for breast cancer patients who overexpress HER2 gene.

The reason I ask for this is because things like this can be checked out easy via publications on the net.

It was experimental, I apologize for not remembering the name of the book
however it is more the moral of the story that stayed with me. It was explaining
how medicine is big business and that not even our own Dna is safe from
these people. I was trying to explain to David Grouchy that maybe it is better
to not disclose ancient technology and knowledge until society and TPTB
are ready for that information for the betterment of all mankind and not just
a select few.

The doctor probably had other patients that were part of the experiment that had the same type of cancer with the same type of mutations. Most likely this was some targeted therapy against a specific gene that was known ( to him/her aleast ) to cause cancer when it is over active because of a mutation. The thing he likely patened, and that is my induction from what you've said, is the therapy not someone's DNA. You can't really patent someone's DNA.

If you can dig up the guy's name, I can check out who it was and specifically what he did.

What a nightmare this thread turned into.

Here,
just use the wiki page.

wiki / list organisms chromosome


Grouchy out

originally posted by: davidgrouchy

Oh, and besides that. Did you know that only Mammals and Birds have warm blood? Did I mention the Aztecs were real good with breeding birds.

YESSS its all starting to make sense
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a reply to: mikegrouchy

I was just thinking pity the op has not been back in years then i figured it out on your last post nice thread .

I think there is a lot more to the Codex Selden pages than mere childrens 2d pictogrammes for those with the eyes to see ,




i never bought the bead counting taxman explanation

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: mikegrouchy

I think there is a lot more to the Codex Selden pages than mere childrens 2d pictogrammes for those with the eyes to see ,

Nice pic, and thank you for that. I'll be looking into the Codex Selden next.

Have you seen the declassified NSA document on the Venus Tablets?

It was discussed here on ATS back in 2013.


Mike Grouchy

a reply to: mikegrouchy

Thanks for the tip on those Venus Tablets

Those pictures above shocked me when i first came across them a month ago , Years ago i read the Cosmic Serpet by J Narby and did a little reading when i was young about the South American cultures that have come and gone from history .

The picture above tells me that they knew more about the creation myth than they teach in schools to the little mushrooms of today , seems they knew about Earth batterys well before Nathan Stubblefield and the axle thing looks like a magnet that Edward Leedskalnin might have understood , i used to set up the dodgems at the fair when they came to town when i was a kid , the red hooks remind me of those days in the picture along with the picture of flowers maybe softening rock but the Bart with the white electrical breaker on his shoulder < second top left was well ahead of his day for a savage primative who never knew the wheel

originally posted by: mikegrouchy

Have you seen the declassified NSA document on the Venus Tablets?

It was discussed here on ATS back in 2013.

You do realize that the "NSA document" is actually a hoax, right?

(for those wondering why, the supposed "NSA document" makes the claim in 1986 that "no one has yet deciphered the riddle of the Maya Hieroglypics" (seen in the first image at the link above) when, in truth, most of the texts had been translated by 1975 thanks to a breakthrough in 1952 by Knorosov. In addition it talks about how the Maya calendar is more accurate than ours, when in fact we had been synchronizing solar clocks and atomic clocks with leap seconds since 1972. The NSA is not THAT inept - they'd have known about the basic research simply by walking to a library and looking it up.

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: mikegrouchy
The picture above tells me that they knew more about the creation myth than they teach in schools to the little mushrooms of today , seems they knew about Earth batterys well before Nathan Stubblefield and the axle thing looks like a magnet that Edward Leedskalnin might have understood , i used to set up the dodgems at the fair when they came to town when i was a kid , the red hooks remind me of those days in the picture along with the picture of flowers maybe softening rock but the Bart with the white electrical breaker on his shoulder < second top left was well ahead of his day for a savage primative who never knew the wheel

....then why don't the hieroglyphs in the picture (right next to the images of the people and things) above talk about Earth batteries and so forth?

a reply to: Byrd

The only honest answer i can give you Byrd is maybe it is like the uk telievision show Catchphrase where you say what you see in the picture .

So much of their culture was destroyed by priests or soldiers and disease that was taken there maybe deliberatly , just like the blankets for the North American Indians aka genocide but one thing is for sure some of their cities were as big as modern day Metropolis or even bigger .

Yet so called scholars say the most stupid things about their culture , ie life was so easy for them they stopped having young when it could have been a enviromental disaster with water or a Velikoskian type one to befall them .

But for me i see bottom right a Frankenstein monster being born and a bit of genetic engineering going on but the brown mound next to him contains a force a tree of life

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: Byrd
Yet so called scholars say the most stupid things about their culture , ie life was so easy for them they stopped having young when it could have been a enviromental disaster with water or a Velikoskian type one to befall them .

Which scholars are these? I hadn't read about this. Can you give me a link?

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: Byrd
Yet so called scholars say the most stupid things about their culture , ie life was so easy for them they stopped having young when it could have been a enviromental disaster with water or a Velikoskian type one to befall them .

Which scholars are these? I hadn't read about this. Can you give me a link?

I've heard similar sweeping statements. Not by scholars but the likes of NPR, and National Geographic Magazine. They use the MAYA as an economics example and cautionary tale.


Mike Grouchy

originally posted by: mikegrouchy

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: Byrd
Yet so called scholars say the most stupid things about their culture , ie life was so easy for them they stopped having young when it could have been a enviromental disaster with water or a Velikoskian type one to befall them .

Which scholars are these? I hadn't read about this. Can you give me a link?

I've heard similar sweeping statements. Not by scholars but the likes of NPR, and National Geographic Magazine. They use the MAYA as an economics example and cautionary tale.

Mike Grouchy

Got a link? I'd love to see the context.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: Byrd
Yet so called scholars say the most stupid things about their culture , ie life was so easy for them they stopped having young when it could have been a enviromental disaster with water or a Velikoskian type one to befall them .

Which scholars are these? I hadn't read about this. Can you give me a link?

It was so many years ago Byrd that the names escape me now but i do remember reading and hearing that in documentaries and lol ing the joys of the early onset of vascular dementia

No Mandela Effect there

originally posted by: stonerwilliam

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: Byrd
Yet so called scholars say the most stupid things about their culture , ie life was so easy for them they stopped having young when it could have been a enviromental disaster with water or a Velikoskian type one to befall them .

Which scholars are these? I hadn't read about this. Can you give me a link?

It was so many years ago Byrd that the names escape me now but i do remember reading and hearing that in documentaries and lol ing the joys of the early onset of vascular dementia

No Mandela Effect there

I wonder if someone else might provide some links. I'm quite curious. I'm aware of the evidence for the drought, of course as well as for the other known sources (and it's not really a collapse of the whole civilization.) Were you thinking that these were far-fetched?

Homeostasis.

In this thread I am timidly submitting that the Aztecs & Maya were using a knowledge base centered on Homeostasis, not Empirical Evidence. Like so.



The ability of the body to regulate it's own internal operating temperature, to better adapt to the environment. It is the reason de etat of their world view. In my humble opinion. The reason mammals and birds are social.


Mike Grouchy

originally posted by: mikegrouchy
Homeostasis.

In this thread I am timidly submitting that the Aztecs & Maya were using a knowledge base centered on Homeostasis, not Empirical Evidence. .

So which of the translated texts are you using to support your idea? And what are the key elements of this knowledge?

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: mikegrouchy
Homeostasis.

In this thread I am timidly submitting that the Aztecs & Maya were using a knowledge base centered on Homeostasis, not Empirical Evidence. .

So which of the translated texts are you using to support your idea? And what are the key elements of this knowledge?

Well, I'm working on translations as fast as I may, I do have a working simulator of the Mayan calendar, and I have translated it into the ancient calendars of Greece, India, China, Norse, African, a whole slew of religions, and the modern calendar we use these days. But I have not, as yet, fully translated it into modern English. An act tantamount to a complete cultural hijack of the reader. It's just ... so different ... and so earth is the center of the universe, BUT

I can refer you to the modern science on the same topic.



It is called phenology.




Phenology is the study of periodic plant and animal life cycle events and how these are influenced by seasonal and interannual variations in climate, as well as habitat factors (such as elevation).



en.wikipedia.com / phenology