Global Warming is not only NOT a hoax, but it is about 10,000 times worst than your worst nightmare.

Originally posted by buddon
Global warming is plain fraud. Start here listen to this guy.

video.foxnews.com...

That figures. If you want the whole truth you must go to Fox News.
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Well done Piers Corbyn!
It looks like Al Gore and his liberal buddies have been completely ignoring the sun.

There is a direct relationship between the weather on our sun and the weather on Earth.

Less than a year left!

Originally posted by The_Liberator

Originally posted by Nathan-D
reply to post by The_Liberator

 

In my opinion, the earth is about to flip to a hot state and multiple positive feedback mechanisms are beginning to kick in that, combined together, will raise global temps by a few degrees in a matter of a months.

A few degrees in a matter of months. I doubt it will. Do you want to place any bets?

Happy to!

Tell you what....if in 2 years from today, the sh$t has not hit the fan, I will come back on here and post a new topic apologizing for being wrong and begging the forgiveness of all deniers. (I really will!)

If, however, in 2 years, the sh$t HAS hit the fan, I ask that you do the same!

Mark your calendar my friend because this is a bet that you will lose.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

Most current Co2 production is from the earths ocean. There is evidence that as oceans warm up they release co2, and that co2 rises in response to temperature change. THis destroys al gore and his fakers.

This is false. Stop talking about Al Gore, and start listening to scientists.

The ocean is currently absorbing some of the CO2 which is going into the atmosphere. It is a sink, not a source of CO2. That's why oceans are acidifying (this is an experimental fact, not an opinion or conjecture).

It is also true that as the oceans warm and get increasingly acidifed, they will be able to absorb CO2 less easily.

This means that future emissions will add even more to the CO2 in the atmosphere and global warming will accelerate further.

www.realclimate.org...

Of course global warming is real - the hoax is that man caused it or can do anything about it.

It's a UN globalist scheme to keep 3rd world countries impoverished & tax the hell out of industrialized countries & China laughs at us cause they want no part of it. But you have idiots like Algore & his minions running like the sky is falling. It's just naturally occuring earth changes - ive read we are actually headed for a mini ice age but whatever.

Peace

Heat islands prove that humans are heating the environment.
They found that the city of Houston at night is a full 10 degrees warmer than the surrounding area- completely due to human activity and environmental change (concrete).

Originally posted by mbkennel

This is false. Stop talking about Al Gore, and start listening to scientists.

The ocean is currently absorbing some of the CO2 which is going into the atmosphere. It is a sink, not a source of CO2. That's why oceans are acidifying (this is an experimental fact, not an opinion or conjecture).

It is also true that as the oceans warm and get increasingly acidifed, they will be able to absorb CO2 less easily.

This means that future emissions will add even more to the CO2 in the atmosphere and global warming will accelerate further.

www.realclimate.org...

Wow realclimate.org really?...

The website where Michael Mann, Jones, and the main proponents of AGW are directors of?...

The same website which gets web hosting and support for environmental issues from Environmental Media Services?... an organization funded "by Arlie Schardt, a former journalist, former communications director for Al Gore's 2000 Presidential campaign, and former head of the Environmental Defense Fund during the 1970s."

The same website which has the scientists who were caught in the Climategate scandal? where they confess to use all sorts of dirty, and illegal tactics to hide the truth about Climate Change and who do everything possible to stop discussion of Climate Change with real scientists?...

Originally posted by CB328
Heat islands prove that humans are heating the environment.
They found that the city of Houston at night is a full 10 degrees warmer than the surrounding area- completely due to human activity and environmental change (concrete).

edit on 6-2-2012 by CB328 because: (no reason given)

That is just a local heating... It does not affect the global climate in the least... This fact is corroborated when you get out of cities the temperatures immediately decrease...

This is the problem with the AGW proponents...every one of them is ignorant of everything that has to do with Climate Change, and CO2...

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by CB328
Heat islands prove that humans are heating the environment.
They found that the city of Houston at night is a full 10 degrees warmer than the surrounding area- completely due to human activity and environmental change (concrete).

edit on 6-2-2012 by CB328 because: (no reason given)

That is just a local heating... It does not affect the global climate in the least... This fact is corroborated when you get out of cities the temperatures immediately decrease...

This is the problem with the AGW proponents...every one of them is ignorant of everything that has to do with Climate Change, and CO2...

Who needs the truth when you have a religion called Global Warming?

AL Gore has created a cult of the weak minded.

It reminds me of a movie starring Kate Winslet. -- Holy Smoke! --

Originally posted by BABYBULL24
Of course global warming is real - the hoax is that man caused it or can do anything about it.

It's a UN globalist scheme to keep 3rd world countries impoverished & tax the hell out of industrialized countries & China laughs at us cause they want no part of it. But you have idiots like Algore & his minions running like the sky is falling. It's just naturally occuring earth changes - ive read we are actually headed for a mini ice age but whatever.

Peace

edit on 6-2-2012 by BABYBULL24 because: (no reason given)

Yes, global warming and cooling has been going on for millions of years.

Ice ages have been occurring about every 12,000 years. The next ice age is always

on the way.

reply to post by Eurisko2012


Except that of 9 of the hottest years recorded have ALL taken place since 2000.

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Eurisko2012

 

Except that of 9 of the hottest years recorded have ALL taken place since 2000.

That's because we have been preventing kinks in the jet stream with HAARP.

Guess what? It works!

Here it is in action over Canada.

Anyone would like to explain why all of the planets in our solar system are heating up...????? Not just our planet...

reply to post by booky


They're not.


Mind telling us why you just repeat the same debunked mantra?

Let me guess, you're denying anything that says otherwise to your current view that you pieced together probably because:


A. It suits your political views.

B. You took evidence and then pieced it together in some jumbled way and you cannot see it.

or

C. You only listen to those who you already agree with.

Since it has been debunked so many times, I highly doubt this was an honest mistake.

"Scientists" can't even make up their minds...and we're supposed to? To me, it's just ANOTHER scam by the man, to imprison and restrict us, on our own planet. Global warming isn't a problem it's just another meal ticket for the 'elite'.

This article was on Yahoo frontpage, this morning: Global Warming: Like "Weather on Steroids"

I think it should read: Global Warming: Like "Geo-engineering on Steroids" Follow the game, people! These "experts" plant seeds, and water them; with lots of B.S., to keep us IGNORANT (un-informed) of the truth. Do you think they're just gonna come out and say: "Oh that, that's just us spraying stuff into the atmosphere, that will cause rain, snow, tornadoes, etc; Nothing to worry about, we're just testing."

Oh wait, i know..."Global Warming" is a charity event. Give, so they can keep us "safe and protected" from Mother Nature. As IF we'd stand a chance.

Man, needs to get over himself. We're not as BIG as we 'think'!!!

reply to post by C0bzz


Having just read the link you provided it doesn't seem that the claim is debunked at all.

There is opposing discussion in the comments below the article which shows that the subject is still under debate.

reply to post by The_Liberator


10000X worse eh? Thats huge! Where are we going to find thermometers in that range!?

If "Global Warming" were not a hoax, then why would scientists have to fudge their data to prove it? ...The results should speak for themselves, should they not? I think scientists have done more DAMAGE to your cause than advanced it by manipulating data like this and getting caught.

...If "Global Warming" were not a hoax, why would it's proponents make a concerted effort to go away from the term "Global Warming" and now just call it a more ambiguous "Climate Change" instead. (and it USED to be called "Anthropogenic Global Warming" until they dropped THAT first part too)

If "Global Warming" were not a hoax, why do temperature models from the past 10 to 15 years show a global climate that has actually remained quite stable overall?

If "Global Warming" were not a hoax, why has the table been set so that the "1%ers" of this planet stand to gain the most monetarily from its' advancement? (doing even more damage to your cause)

Even Al Gore, the "inventor of the internet" himself, in all his "Global Warming" zeal leading the charge with his film "An Inconvenient Truth" (a documentary where many "inconvenient truths" were found "inconveniently false") has damaged your cause.

Listen. We all want a cleaner environment. Cleaner running fuels. More efficient automobiles. Cleaner air. A greener planet. Etc... Etc... Etc... Doesn't matter what side of the fence we're on regarding "Global Warming", I think most here would be lying if they said they didn't. But trying to get us there by alarming the world populace with false tales of a planet warming at an out of control rate is not the right way to go about it. Slapping an overbearing "Kyoto Protocol" on the developed world is not the way to do it either.

This planet's climate is changing. It's been doing it for millions of years. It will continue to do it for millions more. Back in the 70's they thought we were entering an ice age!!! It is the height of human arrogance and elitism to think we have anything to do with it one way or another. It is also not surprising as this is human nature. To add the word "anthropogenic" to any NATURAL occurrence on this planet is ridiculous to me. Are earthquakes anthropogenic? Hurricanes? Tornados? Volcanos? ...Did they all just start happening when humans came onto the scene? I'll go with probably not. In fact, there are UN-falsified records to prove it! Just as there are UN-falsified records of a planet which has gone through hot and cold climate cycles for millions of years more extreme than anything we're experiencing now.

I think most who are posting in this thread have their minds made up one way or the other on this subject, so there won't be any flipping of their beliefs on the matter, but I'll close by saying that the Earth is a pretty amazing planet ...Let's just sit back and enjoy the ride and it's surroundings instead of attaching alarmist agenda-driven theories to it's natural processes.

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Eurisko2012

 

Except that of 9 of the hottest years recorded have ALL taken place since 2000.

That's because we have been preventing kinks in the jet stream with HAARP.

Guess what? It works!

Here it is in action over Canada.

The producers of that video obviously have not the slightest clue about thermodynamics

Thanks for the comedy clip though

reply to post by MrXYZ


The cloud formation was so bizarre that they posted it on YouTube.

It looks artificial to me.

reply to post by Jubilation T Cornpone

If "Global Warming" were not a hoax, then why would scientists have to fudge their data to prove it?

They don't...you obviously don't know how modelling works. Here's a link to an independent study CLEARLY showing that you are wrong: [url=http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/a-case-study-of-the-tactics-of-climate-change-denial-in-which-i-am-the-target/]LINK[/ur l]

If "Global Warming" were not a hoax, why would it's proponents make a concerted effort to go away from the term "Global Warming" and now just call it a more ambiguous "Climate Change" instead.

Because the climate isn't warming everywhere...just over all if you look at the whole planet. For example: Climate change leads to more moisture in the air, which leads to harsher winters with more snow storms...which is EXACTLY what we're experiencing.

If "Global Warming" were not a hoax, why do temperature models from the past 10 to 15 years show a global climate that has actually remained quite stable overall?

Because they don't show them to remain stable...again, you are simply misinformed

If "Global Warming" were not a hoax, why has the table been set so that the "1%ers" of this planet stand to gain the most monetarily from its' advancement? (doing even more damage to your cause)

Because they ALWAYS profit the most from a bad situation...such as wars for example. Why? Because their funds allow them to get a head start. Carbon trading for example is a complete disaster because it doesn't actually fix the problem at all.

Even Al Gore, the "inventor of the internet" himself, in all his "Global Warming" zeal leading the charge with his film "An Inconvenient Truth" (a documentary where many "inconvenient truths" were found "inconveniently false") has damaged your cause.

Because sadly he's given in to sensationalism. The situation is really grave, he's right in that though. But he did blow some things out of proportion which hurt the movement. Doesn't change the fact that climate change is happening and entire countries will go under because of it. And it's also a fact that no other factor than human intervention is the cause given that no other identifiable factor has been found.

The whole "the sun is causing it" which nonsense comedy channels like FOX keep on repeating over and over again has been debunked a million times. But logic isn't high on their list of priorities if their masters would suffer from having to actually protect the environment while doing business.

Listen. We all want a cleaner environment. Cleaner running fuels. More efficient automobiles. Cleaner air. A greener planet. Etc... Etc... Etc... Doesn't matter what side of the fence we're on regarding "Global Warming", I think most here would be lying if they said they didn't. But trying to get us there by alarming the world populace with false tales of a planet warming at an out of control rate is not the right way to go about it. Slapping an overbearing "Kyoto Protocol" on the developed world is not the way to do it either.

Again, given that 9 out of the 10 hottest years ever recorded happened since 2000 it is not wrong to alert people and try to do something!

And yes, those figures are correct as the link I posted above clearly shows.

This planet's climate is changing. It's been doing it for millions of years.

As the data shows, not anywhere near the rate it's changing at now. The temperature increase we saw over the past 20 years normally took around 1,000 years for crying out loud.

Let's just sit back and enjoy the ride and it's surroundings instead of attaching alarmist agenda-driven theories to it's natural processes.

Yeah...tell the people in Bangladesh, Tonga, and the Maldives to "enjoy the ride". I'm sure they'll understand