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White House Insider: Pelosi Willing to Help Take Obama Down

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posted on Nov, 1 2010 @ 07:58 PM
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I guess you are missing what I am actually asking for. Yep, I see sources and links. I have been going through them as I have been reading the thread. Unfortunately, I am not exactly running into a slew of proven "predictions." Which in and of itself would be fine. However, since the claim is made OVER AND OVER AND OVER again that this should be believed JUST BECAUSE of all these proven predictions, why should I have to go back and start fishing for myself to find them. I do not see all these wild predictions. I see sources about the main topic that are worth discussing. I did not ask anyone to pinpoint for me anything that the thread was actually about. I am specifically asking for someone to just make a case for this claim of accuracy that has been made on every page in this thread. I am sorry if you do not see why I am asking but making the claim over and over and over and over again while I am not seeing it for myself kind of makes me want it laid out for me or else shelved as some sort of proof of accuracy. Peripheral references to claims of truth buried within yet more claims hardly seems like something that should be repeated on every page without at least an attempt to distill it.



posted on Nov, 1 2010 @ 07:59 PM
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I guess I have to go back and find where he predicted these things, check when he actually predicted it, then find other predictions to check their accuracy for a complete picture, then compare it to any other breaking stories of similar content at the time? Seems a lot easier to just stop repeating it on every page if you cannot actually point it out.



posted on Nov, 1 2010 @ 08:04 PM
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Here, from one of the first comments on the article in the OP

3.) To the insider-In the future it would give you more credibility if you gave more information than we already know bc it is simple logic in politics that all you have stated would come to pass, so may I suggest you give us a real scandal to prove you really are the next Deep Throat?


I am just saying, on its face it is an interesting story and all. Seeing the claim that this comes from a 100% accurately predicting source no less than 5 times makes me want a little more meat, dates, overall accuracy, etc.



posted on Nov, 1 2010 @ 08:45 PM
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Could someone give a brief description of what was in the second installment by the insider. I looked back over my notes, but seem to have missed this one. Thanks.



posted on Nov, 1 2010 @ 08:45 PM
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Anyone have any idea on how many policies she has Authored? I only see her as a moderate in the media, any idea why she would want Obama out of power?

The Clinton party has assisted Obama more then her, are they behind this?

In the end I will vote for the policy authors who help the people in their policies and keep the politics clean for progression.

How do they consider this move at this time productive? How are their interest more important then helping people in the mainstream right now?

It doesn't make sense unless he is removing an inequality that the Congress has enjoyed and labeling him an "Idiot".



posted on Nov, 1 2010 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by schuyler
It's really too bad the attacks against this information are so lame. I really wish someone with some actual smarts would address the issue with some intelligence and acumen instead of just call names and pretend to be superior. These guys are doing more harm to their own reputations than anything else. I've just copied all the Insider articles over, except for the second missing file, and I also began reading some of the comments. (Hey, spoon, you're Jack Hammer over there, right?) A couple of things strike me as important.


There is no information. All it is is a supposed "insider" and clueless thoughts that Clinton and Pelosi talking to one another means they're cohorts...

How do we even know this "insider" is real? All they have is the word on an "insider." I'd make a safe bet this insider is just a fake person this website created so people the OP and Schuyler actually believe it's real...



posted on Nov, 1 2010 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by jjkenobi
Wow, that is interesting that he is the only candidate in the last 3 elections to not release medical records. Add to that the sealing up of his Harvard documents and the conspiracy gears in my mind hum to life!


I think it should be illegal for a president to be able to seal ANY records. Seriously, if you are running for the office of the POTUS, everything should be viewable.

Normally, I think people should be allowed privacy, but for this position....sorry, no privacy allowed.

Isn't there a law stating that those records have to be released? I mean, seriously!

If he has a history of a diagnosed medical condition, whether physical or mental, we should at least be able to know about it. It doesn't mean he should automatically not be allowed to become president (because I myself was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and I don't believe anybody should be discriminated against because of a medical condition), but it should be known....just in case!

I for one, told all my employers about my condition (until I finally got a cure with homeopathy, and now I work for myself), just in case I had another "manic episode" - so they can be aware. Informing my employers of my medical condition did not cause me to get fired, nor did it prevent me from getting raises. In fact, all my bosses were very accepting about it, even after those few times I had to go to the hospital. (The world, thankfully, has come a long way in the acceptance of "mental illness.") But, I let them know! And likewise, I think that Obama should be require to let people know, if he has a previous diagnosis.

If I did ever run for office (not that I ever would) I would damn well be sure to let people know...before I got elected.... just in case. Because it's the responsible thing to do. Just like someone with diabetes should tell their close friends and associates that they have diabetes in case they suddenly go into a diabetic coma, or have an insulin overdose....you want your close buddies to be able to watch out for you, and keep an eye out for you, and let you know if they think you are showing signs of becoming ill.

And also, high stress can have the effect of worsening almost ANY medical condition, whether it is mental or physical.....heart conditions, diabetes, bipolar, anxiety, depression, etc.. So, that should be another reason why every candidate for POTUS should be required to reveal their medical records released. People should know what to look for.

Besides, you have to be at least a little crazy in the first place these days to run for the office of POTUS, if you think about it! Personally, I'll lay money on the fact that probably every president of the US probably has a history of narcisissm....narcicissm....narcisism? (I know I spelled that wrong!) or "delusions of grandeur."



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posted on Nov, 1 2010 @ 09:38 PM
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Looks like Nancy has plenty of dirt on Obama.
Maybe she should change her name to Pelosi Galore.



posted on Nov, 1 2010 @ 09:41 PM
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Oh now I see. Some accusatiosn are made and then people on ATS believe them because the proof is the fact that there is no proof. This place is getting more fun every day.



posted on Nov, 1 2010 @ 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by The Sword
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Sounds like more rubbish/disinformation from the fright-wing.

Seriously, do you people really believe this garbage? If you do, then the National Enquirer is a credible news source.



"Seriously"??

Well if that's the"national enquirer"
how does the Wall Street Journal grab you???:That's all Jerry springer drama. Here's What went wrong ( from inside the belly of the beast):

Requiem for the Pelosi Democrats
Veteran Democratic Rep. Brian Baird says that job creation should have been priority 'number one, two and three.'.
online.wsj.com...-DF5C-40D2- A2D6-34158620D746%26articleTabs%3D

Article on the honorable Ms. Pelosi and 4 videos.It's not quite as "dramatic" and over the top, but there definitely is some kind of a "falling out" going on. Go ahead Keep backing this flea circus; call the "dissenters"color full, creative,but mostly derogatory names.Think it makes us want to come around to your point of view??

The"Fright-wing" is gonna require a humongous mother ship of an apology after this porta potti is tipped over and all the blue is washed off whatever falls out; .Thank God; Aqua-bhhuda, allah or mickey
mouse the communists are being kicked to the curb with nary a shot fired.

After: " if we hit a wall we'll pole vault over it, a fence we'll dig under it; but we'll pass it" And "We have to pass the bill to tell you whats 'in it but you;'ll like it. smirk smirk"...Aplause (not). Pardon me for giggling my fuzzy posterior off.


edit on 1-11-2010 by 46ACE because: Schpelling and punctuation

edit on 1-11-2010 by 46ACE because: redundancy.



posted on Nov, 1 2010 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by jjkenobi
Wow, that is interesting that he is the only candidate in the last 3 elections to not release medical records. Add to that the sealing up of his Harvard documents and the conspiracy gears in my mind hum to life!



Interesting ;I believe Hilliary's thesis was locked away by her college during her primary run too..Hmmm
what IS it about these hardcore leftist they are all afraid to share? Sunlight disinfects alot.



posted on Nov, 1 2010 @ 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by Curiousisall
Oh now I see. Some accusatiosn are made and then people on ATS believe them because the proof is the fact that there is no proof. This place is getting more fun every day.

Exactly my point...

Why don't I just create a news website and say I have an "insider" who claims that the government is covering up extraterrestrials from the public, and that Obama is going to revealed as a shape-shifting Reptilian by Timothy Geithner and Joe Biden, because Biden wants to become president, and the aliens are going to help us if Obama's not in office!

Some of you may be wondering how that makes any sense..

But that's my point. Is this what we take as evidence?



posted on Nov, 2 2010 @ 12:00 AM
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Yet another thread on the eve of an election created to convey uncertainty and confusion in a closely contested race for election/re-election.

THIS POST WREAKS HEAVILY OF THE DARK SIDE. Trust it not. Be swayed by it not. For the DARK SIDE it is.

You know this in your heart when people resort to this low level of sensational and unfounded attack.

QUESTION what side you are on if YOUR SIDE STOOPS TO THIS LEVEL.

Are you of the LIGHT or of the darkness..........?



posted on Nov, 2 2010 @ 02:51 AM
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Originally posted by The Sword
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Sounds like more rubbish/disinformation from the fright-wing.

Seriously, do you people really believe this garbage? If you do, then the National Enquirer is a credible news source.


So true the lunatic fringe right wingers would rather see everything go down the tubes for this country over this bitterness of losing an election and power. Does not matter if it were Mary Poppins or Jesus himself as a Democratic president, haters will hate Oh remember George Bush jr?

Yeah that guy right? What a disaster and mess he made only to dump the workload all on Obama. Everything we are seeing is a result of those 8 years of Bush tyranny. No wonder why the Republicans lost intentionally with that joke ticket of Mccain and Palin. You cant be serious Palin really? Of course they have no idea or any concept of how to fix the damage done by the Bush regime. They focus all resources on slamming Obama and fabricating propaganda like birth certificates and these tabloid articles when they cant come up with solutions or actually WORK to keep things rolling smoothly. It's disgusting and appalling how useless and counter productive these Republicans behave. Not to say dems are much better but this is out of control.

WE employ these people both Dem and Rep nothing gets done but bitching and moaning. Us taxpayers are wasting our little money we have left on these actors pretending to be our representatives. Dont act like we forgot GW right wingers. No you are not quite forgiven for those 8 years. I wish Obama to succeed as i tried with Bush but as long as this madness continues in the MSM and abroad the economy will lag and the Republicans and Dems will act like the bloods and the crips. But the republicans are the antagonists none the less. And Obama may lose next term and if so the Republicans will run it in to the ground whatever is left and give more to those big fat CEO's and invent a new worthless war founded on more lies.

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posted on Nov, 2 2010 @ 02:59 AM
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yep, I can def believe Pelosi is capable
of internal political sabotage such as this.
And I also have suspicions that Pelosi is
the WH insider who is claimed in this
thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
Obama outed as gay thread

It makes perfect sense to me
given the political nature of this
debacle.



posted on Nov, 2 2010 @ 05:02 AM
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Originally posted by sp00n1

White House Insider: Pelosi Willing to Help Take Obama Down


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Pelosi news. Speaker preparing for departure from Congress, but going to burn bridges as she does so – namely all those leading to the White House. Speculation she will assist in clearing way for Congressional investigations against Obama White House in coming year. In effect, Pelosi willing to help take Obama down. Quote from within her office that came back to me as follows, “How that -expletive- idiot ever got elected is beyond me. Well let’s see how he does without me around
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I dont believe this for a second, I think SHE is more evil than him.
(second line)



posted on Nov, 2 2010 @ 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by Monts
I think people need to try and think about whats really going on behind the scenes from every possible viewpoint.
There has been so much negativity spread through the mainstream as well as alternative press about Obama for quite a while now .... as well as a lot of so called "conspiracies" that he is not american-born, he is gay, or whatever it may be.
You always have to keep in mind that disinformation is a classic tactic that the elites can, as always, use against the public by means such as their control over the media.
Could it be possible that there is another motive for taking out Obama?
Could it be that these "stories" about Obama are being fabricated, i.e. a conspiracy to take out Obama?
If they weren't true, and the media was fabricating the story, it wouldn't be the first time that a story has been fabricated by the people in charge in order to get what they want... remember those "weapons of mass destruction" that surely existed?
Maybe Obama has gotten himself wrapped up in something that he can't escape...
Maybe Obama getting elected wasn't the original plan of TPTB... and as not being there choice... they use him for what they can and then get rid of him?
All these questions are just that- questions; not truths or actual reality.
But they are questions that I think everybody should at least consider...
As for myself, there is simply not enough information at this point to draw any conclusions.
So for the time being... I'll keep from condoning any kind of judgment and keep an open mind.


You are the only one to really make this point. For the rest it seems to be some happy times because their team is about to get in power. I don't believe this "he's gay"crap for a minute, but Pelosi-Yea, she'd turn his butt out. I don't need some magical insider to tell me that. The problem here is if the Democrats lose the house (which they will), she will be out of a job. So what does it matter right? She'll have no power. Nor do I understand why people are so hellbent on her anyway. She voted for 90% of what Bush introduced.

I do believe the end goal is to get a Warmongering Neo-Con back in office. Obama is just a break for the populace before we go back into the fire.



posted on Nov, 2 2010 @ 09:45 AM
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I've always thought he looked Gay. That must be why he hasn't released his medical records.

Humpty dumpty sat on a wall ....

Couldn't happen to a more deserving jerk than OB....



posted on Nov, 2 2010 @ 09:45 AM
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Obama aint getting much love in here.

Heheh ive always found american politics a bit complicated, you would have thought that when obama got elected, he was americas savior, and now hes already on his way out, with some back door politics or a scandal.

Ouch poor guy, im sure all he really wanted was to make a change, maybe he tried too hard, or got all messed up with all the real bosses in washington, telling him different, maybe he just became a face to a problem thats been growing for years, first non white american president, i dont like to say africain amercian, cause isent he just american, i thought.

I feel for the guy, but hey maybe hes really evil like the MSM say eheheh, i dont know.



posted on Nov, 2 2010 @ 09:50 AM
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What with all the corrupt associations and the aliegations made about Obama in the very begenning of his campaign I lean towards there being truth in some of this.this will be the perfict storm if any of it can be proven but that I doubt because I belive it goes to so many of the elites in this country,I Doubt we as common people can comprehend how involved and corrupt this will be in all levels of our government...........THIS could be what brings down America.

I love the way the progressives "eat"there own when there in the throws of defeat,shows you why socialism/communism does not work,to much hate and anger to create a means to an end for there agenda.




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