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Thats IT ! Its Time to Put Up or Shut Up. The last Stand.

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posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 12:43 AM
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you can not provide evidence for eyes that are unwilling to see, so i would say there is no evidence that can been shown to prove just 1% possibility of aliens for those who are looking for 100% no doubt proof.
anything can be denied, so those who do not believe will deny. i do not believe any quality of evidence, photo or video is enough to prove it to those who do not believe.

at the same time it is impossible for skeptics to prove they do not exist, or visit. or prove to a believer that this is the case.

i know that there is something up there that people witness and can not explain as 'normal', this part, the u.f.o. part is real, i can tell anybody that and look them straight in the eye. however how are they suppose to believe that if all they see is hoaxes all over the web and have not seen something for themselves?

but maybe, just maybe people are not looking to prove it to anybody, but rather share information with those who 'know' or are looking for answers. i do not really get hung up on proving anything because i know it is pointless and seeing is believing, either you believe and see the possibility or you don't, the only way to prove it is for them to actually land or 'capture' one of these u.f.o's and put it on live t.v. or on display. untill then it will always be a fruit loop where trying to prove it is concerned.

why don't people catch them on film?

why are they always shaking and blurry?

it's a man in a suit

it's c.g.i. etc etc.

therefore video and photo evidence is not good enough or not to the satisfaction of the non believer. although why some non believer think believers just blindly believe is beyond me, i think many people believe due to what they have witnessed or experienced.


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edit on 30-10-2010 by lifeform11 because: grammer



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 12:44 AM
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Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
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You beat me to it, but isn't that kinda like 100% since the universe is infinite, it would mean there are unlimited amounts of possibilities thus it would be 100%. Unless of course you can prove the universe is not infinite which one cannot for obvious reasons.
Hey, i tll u what..Im not arguing with putting that at 100% or far over...thats real,what are the odds we are alone?

The odds that we are alone are impossible. The universe is infinite dude, which means the possibilities of life outweigh the possibilities that life does not exist. Just look at the life here on Earth alone....you actually think it stops there? I just don't think so...



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 12:47 AM
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Maybe i'll state it to you in other words: You shouldn't take lights in the sky to be definite proof of extraterrestrial visitation. Having said that, in the few cases that they MIGHT have been some form of craft, you should not immediately assume it to be of extra-terrestrial origin. Doing so is like stating a newfound species of sea creature is proof of poseidon's existence.



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 12:47 AM
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How about this site

revelations-2012.com...

How space ships be on cave paintings that date back 29,000 years ago?



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 12:49 AM
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I really hope its sooner then we think like as of yesterday,but yes scientist are finding and observing things ..atleast the scientst that are above ground,now the scientist that are 20 stories below the earth,i have no idea what they can bring to the table,super stoked to see one of them come forward out the blue...within the next couple of days lol.



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by Somehumanbeing
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Maybe i'll state it to you in other words: You shouldn't take lights in the sky to be definite proof of extraterrestrial visitation. Having said that, in the few cases that they MIGHT have been some form of craft, you should not immediately assume it to be of extra-terrestrial origin. Doing so is like stating a newfound species of sea creature is proof of poseidon's existence.


He is right, you shouldn't immediately assume it to be of extra-terrestrial origin, because that is just crazy, and impossible.



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
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This is my only 1% conclusive evidence.www.youtube.com...




For me,

this is irrefutable proof.



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 12:51 AM
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An infinite universe.

EDIT: Nevermind.. Misread what you said.
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posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by rajaten

Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
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This is my only 1% conclusive evidence.www.youtube.com...




For me,

this is irrefutable proof.



OK YOU MADE ME A BELIEVER



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 12:57 AM
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This is only my opinion, but to turn this into a competition between "believers" and "skeptics" and talking of percentages and points is absolutely ridiculous and farcical. Not even going to go into how completely juvenile you are being about this.
Bad form

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posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 12:58 AM
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we exist in a infinite multiverse the amount of life contained within reality is infinite. reality is fractaly structured the type 3 and above civilizations would be biological manifestations at our resolution. The logic created in all sentient life comes from experiances within this reality. As such we all share common experiances and because of the role experiance plays in the development of logic, something that i have coined, "the continuity of chaos" must be maintained for the education of others.

There i have just explained all of reality and everything that exists in it with very breif logic.



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by Wertdagf
we exist in a infinite multiverse the amount of life contained within reality is infinite. reality is fractaly structured the type 3 and above civilizations would be biological manifestations at our resolution. The logic created in all sentient life comes from experiances within this reality. As such we all share common experiances and because of the role experiance plays in the development of logic, something that i have coined, "the continuity of chaos" must be maintained for the education of others.

There i have just explained all of reality and everything that exists in it with very breif logic.


Now just run a spell check and it would be perfect.
~



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
reply to post by HumanMeatsuit

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You beat me to it, but isn't that kinda like 100% since the universe is infinite, it would mean there are unlimited amounts of possibilities thus it would be 100%. Unless of course you can prove the universe is not infinite which one cannot for obvious reasons.
Hey, i tll u what..Im not arguing with putting that at 100% or far over...thats real,what are the odds we are alone?

The odds that we are alone are impossible. The universe is infinite dude, which means the possibilities of life outweigh the possibilities that life does not exist. Just look at the life here on Earth alone....you actually think it stops there? I just don't think so...

So where in your brain has it ever told u a possibility of where life could be.."all humans are giving messages and signals in the brain in which the user of his or her brain thinks there just thinking to them selves",we all have them.
i ask that because it solved somthing i was working on in another subject..so thanks.
but have u ever gotten any signals?



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
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Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
reply to post by HumanMeatsuit

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You beat me to it, but isn't that kinda like 100% since the universe is infinite, it would mean there are unlimited amounts of possibilities thus it would be 100%. Unless of course you can prove the universe is not infinite which one cannot for obvious reasons.
Hey, i tll u what..Im not arguing with putting that at 100% or far over...thats real,what are the odds we are alone?

The odds that we are alone are impossible. The universe is infinite dude, which means the possibilities of life outweigh the possibilities that life does not exist. Just look at the life here on Earth alone....you actually think it stops there? I just don't think so...

So where in your brain has it ever told u a possibility of where life could be.."all humans are giving messages and signals in the brain in which the user of his or her brain thinks there just thinking to them selves",we all have them.
i ask that because it solved somthing i was working on in another subject..so thanks.
but have u ever gotten any signals?


Yes I have gotten a signal, just now, from you.



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 01:10 AM
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I have no evidence, and have seen no convincing evidence, that they do not exist.
I have no proof, and have seen no convincing proof, that aliens or UFO's exist.
So I must conclude that no aliens exist, who possess technology sufficient to reach planet earth.

They belong in the same category as unicorns. There are many pictures and stories of both of these creatures. While these stories are fun to think about, there is not enough evidence of the current existence on earth of either creature to concretely believe that they are real(ly here).



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 01:11 AM
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imperfections/lies always teach more than the truth/perfection.

If everyone had a perfect poker face would you still play?



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 01:12 AM
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You speak as if somebody doesn't believe every UFO sighting or video, then they don't believe life exists elsewhere in the universe.

Most people in todays world DO believe there is other life out there somewhere. Drakes equation tackled that question years ago.

Is some of that life visiting Earth? It is possible.

There hasn't been conclusive proof that has happened though, and that leads to silly little contests between so-called "believers" and "skeptics, or debunkers, or the blind, the sheep" etc.

Life doesn't just come in black and white like you seem to suggest.

Face it, without definitive proof whether life from elsewhere has visited Earth in ships, it is
speculation on the Unidentified.
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posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 01:17 AM
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I don't know, but STS-80 is pretty convincing that something extraordinary is going on up there. So much going on this video. If you let the video load fully, pause it and drag the progress bar across and watch all the stuff moving around... Interesting.




posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 01:19 AM
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notice that the floating particles dont appear untill the focus and incoming light is messed with....

somone has placed some sort of covering around the lens to block out certian angles of light. this caused the dust particles to come into focus which is the same things that happened with that tether incident.



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 01:21 AM
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When it comes to answering some of the basic questions in life it starts with "Is this the first planet or the last planet?

It seems humans are moving up from examining the earths and fossils and tombs and pyramids to the moon on to mars so on and so on. It will come out some where down the line...somewhere.

Its obvious in the history for some reason that maps where drawn and ancients could…distinguish a planet from a star just being bright with a clear and precise mapping and even naming and telling a stories about it as we as humans celebrate and even marvel at our signs or zodiac tendency’s.
Cant wait to get to that stage and era of time, hope I live to see when



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