'Prophecies' of a (Necessarily) Silent Messiah

reply to post by Michael Cecil
Michael Cecil,

The two Messiah's, one from beneath and the one from above. The one from beneath is the false Messiah and he will say a lot of things the whole world will believe and will do miracles to prove he is God. Note.

KJV. Re 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Re 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live

He commands to make an image, be a team player, to the first beast of the chap. verses 1-10 and his image beast also has 7 heads and 10 horns. The "he" in the verses above is also depicted as a "beast", yes he is the great red dragon beast, Satan. He brought about the first beast of the chap., it is our New World Order. The rule of it is an image of his rule...He gives the NWO it's power, seat and great authority (read of the first beast of the chap.)

. Re 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Satan is a Spirit entity and he speaks continually and most are hearing him today and following him.

The Messiah from above when He comes there will be no mistaking who He is, note what happens to Satan when He comes.

2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

The next verse lets us know which one is on the scene first so we will not be fooled, decieved.

2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

That day will be hotter than the day of Sodom and Gomorrah, Note, the next verse!

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

It will come to pass, His Word will not fail. Future History Truth. Scoffers, go at it!

Truthiron.

Michael,
Forgive my ignorance, but I am confused.

Are you referring exclusively to the first coming, which is what the Jewish people are awaiting?

Or the first coming, which the Christians believe was fulfilled by Jesus Christ?

The Messiah is also believed by the Muslims to be Jesus Christ, according to the Quran, Sura 3:42-48.

"[3:42] The angels said, "O Mary, GOD has chosen you and purified you. He has chosen you from all the women.

[3:43] "O Mary, you shall submit to your Lord, and prostrate and bow down with those who bow down."

[3:44] This is news from the past that we reveal to you. You were not there when they drew their raffles to select Mary's guardian. You were not present when they argued with one another.

[3:45] The angels said, "O Mary, GOD gives you good news: a Word from Him whose name is `The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary. He will be prominent in this life and in the Hereafter, and one of those closest to Me.'

[3:46] "He will speak to the people from the crib, as well as an adult; he will be one of the righteous."

[3:47] She said, "My Lord, how can I have a son, when no man has touched me?" He said, "GOD thus creates whatever He wills. To have anything done, He simply says to it, `Be,' and it is.

[3:48] "He will teach him the scripture, wisdom, the Torah, and the Gospel."
www.submission.org...

If you are referring to the Christian Second Coming, obviously if you are not a Christian, you do not believe in this event... despite the various theories advanced by many regarding this.

By the time any Messiah returns the people will have been taken up by the Anti-Christ and a NWO, which means "no Christ".

The Messiah and the Christ might very well be separate in the affairs of Man; within we can find Christ, but clearly there is a Creator Force that we have yet to reckon with, our Lords.

The masses will reject the Return of the Messiah because they do not have Christ within. By the time this happens any true believers would be so obscurely placed, in hiding, or imprisoned, so any "conversations" by 'Him' will likely be on the end of a "whipping rod". Man and Demon alike will scatter like the wind but they will not get far.

The population to serve under the Return of Christ (within), by way of our Lord and Savior, will be greatly reduced. We will all get the chance to breathe this life again if we so choose. Otherwise there is another realm, and alternate Universe/dimension, or existence, that belongs to the Demons who have driven us to this Madness on Mother Earth! There will be Hell to pay!

So I doubt the quality of the conversation from the Messiah will be anything less than frightening! I am happy to know I will not be witness to this.

Regarding coming in the sky "on a White Horse", it must be remembered that "White Horse" is very likely to be an ancient metaphor for something else.
For example, Native American Indians calls the Train for "Iron-Horse". Now, Is the train a horse? No, but that was the closest word they could find to describe the vehicle.

The same will probably be the case for Jesus, hence the texts saying that at first he will be rejected and believed not to be the true Messiah returning when he is "Coming with the clouds in great glory", together with millions of "Angels".

Now why could that be, that not even people of his own religion will recognize him and start fighting him?

Could it be that He and the Angels will arrive in... Spaceships and Spacesuits? After all, ALOT of Christians teaches that Alien Visitors are Demons and must not be trusted, and that they will account for what is called "The Great Deception" when they arrive in spaceships and claming to be the Gods and Angels written about in the Ancient texts.

If this is what alot of Christians actually believes, and that, when this happens, they must be fought off and not trusted- then could this also be why it says that when Jesus arrives from the heavens, he will be fought off and not recognized?


And in regards to the question If it would change anything; Ofcourse it would! If this indeed would be the case, then it would devastate the whole beliefsystem for alot of Christians as it will contradict everything they have ever brainwashed themselves aswell as others to believe.

Personally, I cannot really see why this would be so devestating for some people, as absolutely nothing else would really happen than what is already written and what the religious people waits for; That beings will return from the sky and say; "Howdyho! Here we are again! Missed us?"


Religion always manages to shoot itself in the foot, doesn't it.

Originally posted by BobbinHood
If fundamental Christianity were the only true version of Christianity, you might have a case, but that is where your argument falls apart.

My argument does not 'fall apart'.

The differences between liberal and conservative Christianity are merely superficial.

Neither the liberal nor the conservative Christians will acknowledge that Jesus was murdered for teaching the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'--the consequence of which would be to recognize that Mohammed was Elijah and John the Baptist 'raised from the dead'.

NO Christian believes that.

Michael

Originally posted by Nightchild Religion always manages to shoot itself in the foot, doesn't it.

Not good enough for me.

But, if the monotheistic religions were to acknowledge that the Doctrine of "resurrection" is a Doctrine of 'Rebirth', they would be shooting themselves in the HEAD.

And they know it.

So, I don't expect them to do that.

Michael

Micheal, you are focussing on the wrong aspect on the issue of the Messiah returning.

You are relying on the texts written by others who had prophecied on the returning of the Messiah, BUT NOT on the reasoning he is returning.

The Messiah 'died' once on Earth, and to his personal view, an 'untimely' one which He cried and pleaded with our Creator for more time on the night before His betrayal as well as on His last breathe as a mortal on the cross, for He knew that there was so much more to be done to help humanity, as His love for us is boundless as our Creator had for us.

As He had surrendered His will to our Creator, and our Creator who created us and knows us fully well, mere uneducated and kept dumb infants back then in the new A.D., and thus issues came to past as recorded, a necessary and purposeful sacrifice as many now today will realize, with greater maturity.

While the sacred texts will claim to know what He will say and will become dogmatic truths, it will be His power of love which will be felt by the many to know the truth, of which the detractors will then become the minority and powerless to sway minds, for His purpose of return is to save the worthy ones, flawed as they are, and espacially children, as many as possible, as He views human lives as precious and thus his willingness to give up His free will while in mortal form, and He will come during the direst straits we humanity had sailed into.

He lives in your heart and you know it well, for you had studied the sacred texts for years, not just out of mere knowledge, but a thirsting to know the truth, which is self evident if you but silently focus and listen with your own free will of the Being who died for us all so that we may all be free. physically and mentally....

Originally posted by Michael Cecil
Now, the reason for this should be obvious: That is the job of the Jewish and Christian theologians in the first place: knowing what the messiah will say when he arrives or returns. That, after all, is why they have been paid so many trillions of dollars over the past 2500 years or so: because what they are claiming is a Knowledge of Truth fully equivalent to the Knowledge of the messiah. So, in reality, this messiah can never say anything other than what has already been said by either the Jewish or the Christian theologians…

Actually, that's not so. The Jewish sages understand what Messiah will bring into being on the Earth (peace and unity and the reality of Ha'shem which is the name they use for GOD - it means "the name")...but not HOW Messiah will do it. They just trust that GOD will make it happen because he said he would.

Christians aren't so trusting, even though they feel that their faith is somehow better or stronger than that of the Jews. But christian theologists don't like the unanswered questions so instead of just waiting and trusting, they try to fill in all the blanks with their own imagination. And so we have this mess.

Which, of course, means that there is no real need for the messiah to arrive or return in the first place; since, allegedly, the Jewish and Christian theologians already know what he is going to say; which is why there are no Prophecies of the messiah saying anything different than what these religious ‘authorities’ are saying in the first place.

But nothing is accomplished by what they say. Except more confusion, that is. They don't know WHAT Messiah will say but they know what Messiah will do. Like I said, they just don't know HOW.

If the Jewish messiah were to arrive tomorrow—or, even if Jesus were to return, literally, on a white horse out of the sky tomorrow—it would make absolutely NO difference whatsoever to this civilization.

Why not?

Because, eventually, after getting off his white horse or whatever, he would actually have to SAY something.

And, at that point, the fox would be amongst the chickens.

Only in the realm of christianity...the Jews are not like christians in this respect. They have no "anti-Messiah," just Messiah. To them, ha'Satan isn't the "devil" of western religion but simply an agent of GOD for the good of man. The hidden good in what at first appears "evil."

What if this messiah were to contradict even one of the fundamental doctrines of either Judaism or Christianity—or even one of the fundamental beliefs of the Jews or the Christians?

No doubt there will be many incongruencies. But if GOD sends Messiah, then GOD will prove same. And the Jews will be more open to it than Christians. I guarantee it.

What if he were to say that he had been here before--more than once?

That shouldn't be a problem. Christians believe that their Messiah is returning to save the Jews. And the Jews don't have the issues with reincarnation and such that westerners do.

What if he were to affirm that Mohammed was a prophet, for example?

It would likely change a lot of things. For the better, too, not worse.

What if he were to contradict even one of the ‘universally-recognized-as-the-Absolute-and-undeniable-Truth’ interpretations of the Revelation of John vomited out by tens of thousands of televangelists, Ph.D. theologians, or ‘do-it-yourself’ theologians?

What if he were to say something that was, in the least degree, ‘off script’ about either the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Gospel of Thomas, the Treatise On Resurrection, the Holocaust, the scientific method, the Eastern religions, Greek mythology, or the whole subject of consciousness (for example, the findings of the Jungian analysts); things which the Jewish or Christian theologians do not understand because they are completely unacquainted with that language?

What if? I think it is not even a question - this will surely be the case, just as you've described. Messiah is coming with truth for everyone. People will just have to adjust their perspective to be a little wider.

The conclusion would be both obvious and necessary:

Even riding a white horse out of the sky is not sufficient proof that one is the messiah.

In fact, any messiah who contradicts even so much as one of either the fundamental doctrines or beliefs of the Jews or the Christians—even a messiah who arrives on a white horse out of the sky—is, in fact, nothing but a false messiah; riding a white horse out of the sky being merely another “lying wonder” to convince “even the elect”.

There is no "false messiah." There is only Messiah. The white horse thing isn't all that important at all.

In other words, even if the messiah were to return on a white horse out of the sky—but then deny or contradict anything said by either the Jewish or the Christian theologians—those religious ‘authorities’ would COLLECTIVELY decide to wait for the NEXT messiah arriving ‘on a white horse out of the sky’ who did NOT contradict anything said by either the Jewish or the Christian theologians.

Michael

There is no "next" Messiah. There is only one arriving and only time and GOD can prove authenticity to the world. There's nothing that can change it; whether or not people believe at first has no bearing on the outcome. Which is that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess.

Truth cannot be manipulated or altered - it is underneath all the surface appearances and is stronger than the ideas of men, even holy men. GOD's the one sending Messiah...so nothing is uncertain except the time of appearance/recognition/declaration.

Originally posted by Michael Cecil
NO Christian believes that.

Michael

My friend,

I apologise for not catching this earlier. I became distracted with other topics. While I do not consider myself a Christian because it puts my beliefs in a box that the label cannot contain, I do consider myself a follower of Christ. As such, I believe in the doctrine of "rebirth" and I believe Christ taught this doctrine metaphorically in his lessons.

Here are a few:

Luke 5:37,38 No one puts new wine into old wineskins, or else the new wine will burst the skins, and it will be spilled, and the skins will be destroyed. But new wine must be put into fresh wineskins, and both are preserved. No man having drunk old wine immediately desires new, for he says, ‘The old is better.’"

This is the doctrine of rebirth my friend. When one dies what ever he has learned in this life was true for this life, this moment in time, this moment in the awareness of Mankind. It is tainted information because it is clothed in the skins of that era, the cultural norms, the pains of living, fighting, and dieing. Regardless how painful this time period is and what wine was created by it, those things are to advance man to the next stage. When a man dies, he forgets. He dumps the old wine to begin life a new in a new skin. The generation still alive is happy with the old wine, it is all they have drunk. However, this new wine being cultivated in a new skin is the wine for the next generation. This is evident in the progression of Mankind, how each generation rebels against the previous.

This is life. It is a progressive consciousness. We are all constantly being reborn until the wine within us is the purist, finest wine possible.

Luke 5:36 He also told a parable to them. "No one puts a piece from a new garment on an old garment, or else he will tear the new, and also the piece from the new will not match the old."

Here we have it represented again. Each of the great prophets are reborn and each time their message is a bit more refined. Moses brought the Ten Commandments, Jesus brought two, Muhammed brought those two to the Arab people. Law makers expounded on the commandments of these two prophets, yet as they were expounding, they strayed from the core message. Now we are entering a new age, the Age of Man and to progress through it, we must get back to the fundamental root of our laws. That fundamental root, that law that each prophet carried, the seed of the mustard tree is very simply Love. It is Love which united tribes into nations and it will be love that unites nations into a world. The only thing that keeps us divided are the wine skins of old. I am making a new wine, and weaving a whole new garment. The wine is joy and the garment is love for all.

Luke 16:19-31 "Now there was a certain rich man, and he was clothed in purple and fine linen, living in luxury every day. A certain beggar, named Lazarus, was laid at his gate, full of sores, and desiring to be fed with the crumbs that fell from the rich man’s table. Yes, even the dogs came and licked his sores. It happened that the beggar died, and that he was carried away by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died, and was buried. In Hades, he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and saw Abraham far off, and Lazarus at his bosom.

He cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue! For I am in anguish in this flame.’

"But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that you, in your lifetime, received your good things, and Lazarus, in like manner, bad things. But now here he is comforted and you are in anguish. Besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, that those who want to pass from here to you are not able, and that none may cross over from there to us.’

He said, ‘I ask you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house; for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, so they won’t also come into this place of torment.’
"But Abraham said to him,
‘They have Moses and the prophets. Let them listen to them.’
"He said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’
"He said to him, ‘If they don’t listen to Moses and the prophets,
neither will they be persuaded if one rises from the dead.’"

Here a rich man dies at the same moment as Lazarus a beggar. In their lives Lazarus suffered greatly and the rich man lived in luxury and could have eased Lazarus' suffering. He did not though. When they both died, Lazarus moved on to greener pasteurs, the rich man who could have aided his suffering now sufferers in his next. The only way to learn to releave suffering when you see it, is to suffer yourself. Which is why the story concludes with Abraham telling the rich man that not even one raised from the dead could convince another how to act. They must learn it for themselves. Prophets came and they would not even listen to the Prophets.

Why is there so much suffering in the world right now? Because we are doing nothing to end it. It doesn't take much more than genuine love and affection for one another.

Luke 12:16-21 He spoke a parable to them, saying, "The ground of a certain rich man brought forth abundantly. He reasoned within himself, saying, ‘What will I do, because I don’t have room to store my crops?’ He said, ‘This is what I will do. I will pull down my barns, and build bigger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. I will tell my soul, "Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years. Take your ease, eat, drink, be merry."‘ "But God said to him, ‘You foolish one, tonight your soul is required of you. The things which you have prepared—whose will they be?’ So is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God."

Here a rich man stock piles his treasure. God calls him foolish and demonstrates why. He calls his soul from him and asks him who his treasure is for now? He was storing treasure to please his body rather than share his treasure with the world around him. Had he done that, the next rebirth would have found him far wealthier for all would have prospered off his wealth ensuring his next rebirth would be better than the last.

So while Christians may not believe in the doctrine of rebirth, this does not mean that Christ did not teach it. It all depends on your point of view and your understanding of his parables. Just because many say they do not teach one thing, does not mean another cannot find that understanding on their own.

Christ is the Messiah, and as far as I am concerned, he is alive already. He lives in all who understand his lessons and who live them. Jesus is just a name given to a body. The Spirit, the soul is eternal.

With Love,

Your Brother

This is an interesting thread. It's normal to see Christians presenting Jesus as a character who was promised in the Christian OT. Being Jewish the Messiah concept is much different and I have to admit I don't know where Christians get their information on the concepts in the text.
Messiah (Chabad Study)

Originally posted by Sectumsempra
This is an interesting thread. It's normal to see Christians presenting Jesus as a character who was promised in the Christian OT. Being Jewish the Messiah concept is much different and I have to admit I don't know where Christians get their information on the concepts in the text.

My friend,

The Messianic concept of Christ is Jesus the original teacher melded with the cult of Mithra and Apollo. If you study the cults that were blended with Christs teachings, you can see where they deviations are with his original message. For example, Christ is not God, but the son of God and the son of Man. Deifying him was done by the Catholic Church to grant authority of his church to the Emperor. Thus he became the son, the father, and the holy spirit and the Emperor became his direct representative on Earth. This power later shifted to the Popes.

We are all Sons and Daughters of God, Sons and Daughters of Man, but none are God. As his children we all have a right to the Father, we simply have to seek him out. In seeking, one discovers he is far grander than anything that can be described. So grand, that no man has seen him in his entirety. Have learned everything there is to know about this existence? Absolutely not. This existence IS God as a whole. He is within us and without us. We are his children. What is Gods name? He does not have one, God is beyond a name. Even the word God fails to convey the concept fully. The problem with assigning words to God, is that we soon end up deifying the word, YhWh, Allah, Jesus, Brahma, etc. None of these words adequately express the whole. None ever will for we will always find new things we have not learned about yet in this existence.

We are here to learn more about God, this existence. Everyone of us carries a bit of knowledge about him and have equal right to express it, to share it, to learn from it, and grown from it. The only way we come to do this in peace is to recognise that we are all a family here to learn from each other. They only way to peace is to love one another as a family. Combined we can do far more than when we use our resources to fight one another. Jesus planted the seeds of Brotherly Love. That was his messianic duty. He demonstrated how much to love one another with his life. That was his messianic duty. Christ accepted all into his fold and taught his disciples to do the same. That was his messianic duty. Christ judged no one, not even his murderers for he loved them. That was his messianic duty. For peace to come to this world, we must learn from him by living as he lived, that is our messianic duty. If we want heaven on earth, and it is our destiny, we must be willing to love one another.

In the messianic age, Man will know the Torah without having to study. The torah is lessons on how to love one another. Perhaps its time we start living what we want to see.

With Love,

Your Brother

reply to post by IAMIAM


It's great that you are showing respect. But still I'm not going to follow any forum of teachings of Jesus or associated with Jesus in any form or size. The Messiah concept in Judaism is very different then the Christian concept. Jesus never and could never be the Messiah.

The HUMAN Jewish Messiah will accomplish the following prophecies - ALL of them with no "second coming"' * The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26) * Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4) * The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17) * He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via King Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10) * The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2) *****In other words - this must all be accomplished in a human lifetime***** * Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4) * Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9) * He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10) * All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12) * Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8) * There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8) * All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19) * The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11) * He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7) * Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5) * The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23) * The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55) * Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9) * The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot * He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9) * Jews will know the Torah without Study (Jeremiah 31:33) * He will give you all the desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4) * He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9).

Sorry to say but Jesus never fulfilled any of the Messiah prophecies.

Originally posted by Sectumsempra
Sorry to say but Jesus never fulfilled any of the Messiah prophecies.

There are more than one people with their version of a "messiah". You are limiting your scope to one people, one nation, one tribe. The messiah will redeem all Mankind, he will heal the divisions between us, and he will restore the law of the prophets (all of them).

He will not be Jesus, for that is but a name, but it will be Christ's doctrines for it is Christ's simple truths that are the root of the various faiths among the tribes of Man. Of course, many will not even recognise these truths for they have been buried in the various cultural trappings found in the various tribes of Man around the world, but with a little honesty and the truth will shine forth.

Time is short. We will both see soon enough.

With Love,

Your Brother

reply to post by IAMIAM


Of course! But the Messiah will be someone in the future. Because the Messiah has not been born as of yet. We also have to wait for Elijah. I'm not looking for a savior I'm looking for a leader the promised one.

A Prophesy...

The following statement I make, I do not make lightly or with any type of jest; it is as serious as any imagined "beast."

The "beast" in Revelations, I think, is the "Concurrently Converging Technologies," The "Deluge of Information," "The Objectification" of people (using graphical and text-based interfaces and exchanges,) and combined-effects of "Multiple Paradigm Shifts," occurring at once or close-enough to "infiltrate into public ideology," seems to be par-for-the-course afflicting humanity around the globe, these days.

The "skill" of how to check information in "Cyber-Space," especially validity, is a lacking skill, but easily understood. With evermore-increasing cascades of information and data, the easier it is to "file" people into the "object" category, which could seem to demote a person's "ascribed status" to one of "achievement," but many factors would certainly exist in any study around this topic.

In our time, being "subjective" when dealing with a "collective" mind-set which seeks to find data, with-out looking, will fall into the ditch or fountain; and this comic side-effect is directly in reference to the "Blind Leading The Blind" parable of the Bible. Who says the "Man Upstairs" doesn't have a sense of humor!

"Back on Earth," our "Data" is just data, nothing special; but it's when the data is organized as "Information," that it is useful.

All the rest, is just nonsense or place-keepers.

Imagine, if Jesus were to step-foot back-on Earth these days, would innovative technology and communication or social-media replace "Hell-Fire and Brimstone?" One could wonder, or not.

Originally posted by Sectumsempra
Of course! But the Messiah will be someone in the future. Because the Messiah has not been born as of yet. We also have to wait for Elijah. I'm not looking for a savior I'm looking for a leader the promised one.

As far as saviors go, I advise people to save themselves by forgiving the pain this world has caused them and learning to love one another all over again. Likewise with leaders, it is time to accept the responsibility ourselves. I am a Man, free born, I am King of my domain and my domain is my will and the body which houses it. Stop waiting for someone else to do the work. Stand up and be your own King. I do not see one single subject in this world. I see Kings and Queens who have abdicated their throne.

If you want freedom and prosperity for you, wake the rest of the Kingdom up and lets unite to declare our sovereignty. Then, work together to ensure each Kingdom the world over has what it needs to flourish. We are Gods children. We are expected to love and care for one another.

Are you your Brothers keeper?

With Love,

Your Brother

reply to post by IAMIAM


Well I'm still sticking to my views on the Messiah concept the same with you. I just cannot wait for the promised one. I can even taste it! I do feel I am an individual I guess in your view your own king or queen.
Messiah 101
Click the link! ^^^^

Originally posted by Sectumsempra
Well I'm still sticking to my views on the Messiah concept the same with you.

I would have it no other way my friend for they are good and noble and based on a love for all.

Originally posted by Sectumsempra
I just cannot wait for the promised one. I can even taste it! I do feel I am an individual I guess in your view your own king or queen.

Yes, you are an individual. I will wait patiently for you to discover that YOU are who you have been waiting for. When you are ready to make your dreams of the Messianic age a reality, I will work with you to achieve it, just as I would all my Brothers, Sisters, friends.

With Love,

Your Brother

P.S. I am still going through your link. You may find the one at the bottom of my posts of interest.

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I will have to check that link out then! If you're ever in Sacramento, California we should hang out. I have a great idea of getting people of various beliefs to learn to coexist.

Imagine I to be, as a spark of light; fast as time, to measure eternity's arch.
Scattered in height, but breadth does leap, the great illumined sparks and seek!
Reckoning further as to become finite weights, drawing of thought itself will make.
Light!