COICA law - say goodbye to internet freedom

Originally posted by iceblue20-12
Think back to g8,all the protesters and innocents detained in Canada.The world got to hear of this,your American brothers and sisters were aware of what was taking place,next time an event such as this will fall on deaf ears as the flow of information is monitored.They can do it in China,they can do it in korea, they can do it anywhere.

Not anywhere near the same thing. Let's not forget they were burning cars and destroying public businesses.Not to mention the behaviours displayed from these people represent a median age of about 20. You compare this to China a country that has amred personell approach people in groups of 15 or more for dispersment in protest of basic rights. Do you think that they were violating our rights and we needed you to know to defend us?! That's a laugh, I feel pretty safe in our country! Not totally but pretty safe... I mean hey...we are next door to the most POWERFUL COUNTRY IN THE WORLD...

The concern should be this is the new version of the movie" Wag The Dog." You won't be able to trust your news or the internet because they will be moulded to the same tune. Wow the power indeed. You'll have to start using carrier pigeons to pass on the conspiracy news!

I signed the petition and am spreading this around on Facebook. This stuff can be stopped if we all stand up by doing things like signing massive petitions and making it known to the general public - the general public of America, while not always the sharpest nails in the tool shed, get very angry when they realize their civil rights are going to be infringed. The only reason they don't get angry now is because they don't realize it's happening. So, tell everyone, ESPECIALLY your non-conspiracy friends. We do still have some voice that we can use to make stuff like this not happen.

way to go about apple xaax they should start with them first,im sick of theyr closed devices that i cant transfer a song or a photo,and theyr sick vision that people should pay a dollar for everything,we can just get it for free deal with it.

What some people fail to realize, mostly the people who are disconnected from our society by means of class or wealth, is that the internet is our modern world.

Less freedom means less progress. Less progress means less understanding. Less understanding means more fear. More fear means more hate. More hate means more anger. More anger means more violence.

Trying to control the internet is essentially a tyrannical act in disguise; it is the foundation for an elimination of free speech and open communication. Whether this is the agenda or not, that's the potential, and it is a very dangerous potential.

If you ask me, the internet is a bona fide miracle, and a miracle supercedes any decision made by any single entity.

The people should stand up and declare the internet to be the holiest of holy ground, and demand that it not be tampered with by the government.

yes but you saw what the g8 did to the canadians,who though they can just peacefully protest with theyr girlfriend, got jailed like animals.
our future is in the hands of hackers,and we all must protest by stop using some sites and spreading the message everywhere and writing thousands of emails flooding whoever we hate.

Originally posted by Stillalive
yes but you saw what the g8 did to the canadians,who though they can just peacefully protest with theyr girlfriend, got jailed like animals.
our future is in the hands of hackers,and we all must protest by stop using some sites and spreading the message everywhere and writing thousands of emails flooding whoever we hate.

You have no idea what you are talking about. See that is the crap you already see on your news. You live 4576 miles away from Canada. I was following the event closely... small majority of them were acting like animals... looks like...acts like... treat like! Protest doesn't mean take everything you are mad at and focus on one event to let it out. Like I said the median age was 20 years old. Hardly the group presenting a peacful demonstration. we hardly deal with the same kind of police brutality that a lot of other countries have to deal with. Besides, they were jailed, charged and released... not brought to a camp...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

"There over 600 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States."

So knock the Canucks but what do you have in store for you? Who do you trust? Will they block out the list of detainees in these prisons? Oh no they will not because they don't have to... National Security right! We'll let you out when we let you out.
Funny thing is I feel like they are treating you like children... this is the parental controls they are initiating. Next they will ban the "Double Down" sandwich at Kentucky because your eating to many of them and getting fat...fatter.
All sarcasm aside... if this event should actually take place and you are all blinded from the internet upon a major event then there will be anarchy amonst your conspiracist, independant militia groups and not to mention the plethora of on line gamers(he he)! I'll keep an eye open for the hoard of WARCRAFT geeks storming onto the lawn of the White House.

...has someone on here actually read the bill?... if so, can you tell me where it goes awry?...

...my understanding is - - - - (1) its about protecting copyrights by penalizing internet sites that allow infringement or encourage it... (2) it wouldnt affect you unless you're a pirate or you enjoy watching pirated stuff... (3) it doesnt have international applications... (4) i cant see how my rights will be limited by it nor can i see how i use the internet will change because of it...

...the "we're gonna be like china and iran" fear seems baseless - but - heres a link to the bill, just in case someone's in the mood to read it and, then, point out why the hype is justified...


www.govtrack.us...

okey first i read that one day some anarchist in canada were flaming cars. and the police didnt do anything.
the other day the police started arresting even random people and throwing them in jail
whats with thaT? maybe the anarchist were undercover cops.

second, yea im a pirate,and it affects me. since most of todays games didnt deserve their money,and i dont even play games anymore, but piracy is your last stand before jail

The RIAA and MPAA are a bunch of globalist you know THEYare backing this BS LAW.

I suggest everyone contact their senators and congressman and tell them THE NET must be FREE!

Did I tell you this was coming?

If you don't know what I'm talking about, ignore this post.

Look at the timing folks!

By the way, this is just the beginning.

You ain't seen nothing yet.

Someone had to have started this bill, is there a name or names? The usual zionist suspects??

reply to post by Wyn Hawks


I agree with you 100%.

On the other hand I can see where people will believe that this is a step in the wrong direction just because of other doors that this policy might open.

Later down the road they might decide, "People are still downloading pirated software and music! They are using email to spread the links to these horrible sites! Now we propose that all email must be filtered and every American will be assigned a government issued email address, ISP's are to cease.....etc"

well if they shut down the internet, then there will be nothing to keep us at home any longer, and nothing to keep us preoccupied, so then we can focus all our energy and attention on them.

good job washington, welcome to hell:")

This has everythingto do with wikileaks

Originally posted by Wyn Hawks
...has someone on here actually read the bill?... if so, can you tell me where it goes awry?...

...my understanding is - - - - (1) its about protecting copyrights by penalizing internet sites that allow infringement or encourage it... (2) it wouldnt affect you unless you're a pirate or you enjoy watching pirated stuff... (3) it doesnt have international applications... (4) i cant see how my rights will be limited by it nor can i see how i use the internet will change because of it...

...the "we're gonna be like china and iran" fear seems baseless - but - heres a link to the bill, just in case someone's in the mood to read it and, then, point out why the hype is justified...

www.govtrack.us...

Ok, I am Canadian, so I know this will not really affect me. Secondly I know exactly how to get around these kinds of filters and have my own DNS servers so this will for sure not affect me.

The only thing the USA has real control over is the .com, .net and .org name space. So they might choose to delist domains that exist in these areas. Two things will happen if this is allowed to occur. 1) people (even Australia) will start to use recursive dns servers out side of their country and 2 people will use the hosts file on their local system to get around the filters.

eg: host file entry to circumvent dns filtering
75.126.76.151 abovetopsecret.com
75.126.76.151 www.abovetopsecret.com

This entry will allow you to reach this site even if your dns server is blocked, dies or fails for any other reason. Of course this only works if the servers you are trying to reach are listening for this connection, but it will still work.

This will affect anyone who reads the news, researches on the internet or just uses it for entertainment. This is no more geared toward stopping piracy than the Aussie blacklist is about stopping child porn. Once the collective governments assume control over something they do not relinquish it. A quick look at the Aussie list shows they are blocking a lot of sites that have nothing to do with child porn, and once a site has been targeted it is pretty hard to say what might have been blocked. So in that respect it will affect a lot of people.

Remember...the worst thing about censorship is ################ and ####### !

..Ex

Originally posted by PsychNurse
reply to post by iceblue20-12

 

What's to think about... unless it is an American site then it will not have an effect on Canada, It will not be blocked from our Canadian servers. I don't believe Harper will stand for the US deciding what we can see and not see. I don't burn or download so I don't really care. and what's the connection... Aussie...Canuck? Hmmm... none.

edit on 25-10-2010 by PsychNurse because: (no reason given)

Harper's a conservative who, just like Mulroney did with NAFTA, will bow to any and all commands issued by the US.... Don't get me wrong, the Liberals, NDP and Quebecois are all a pack of conniving, lying snakes.....whereas the conservatives don't necessarily look out for Canadians interests when it comes to commands issued by our southerly masters !

Isnt this part of the reason why wikileaks is hosted in Sweden or the Nertherlands, Cause the Aussie owner cant get it hosted in America or downunder because of government control....?

i maybe wrong...? if i am some one please make the correction....

Originally posted by eNaR

Originally posted by PsychNurse
reply to post by iceblue20-12

 

What's to think about... unless it is an American site then it will not have an effect on Canada, It will not be blocked from our Canadian servers. I don't believe Harper will stand for the US deciding what we can see and not see. I don't burn or download so I don't really care. and what's the connection... Aussie...Canuck? Hmmm... none.

edit on 25-10-2010 by PsychNurse because: (no reason given)

Harper's a conservative who, just like Mulroney did with NAFTA, will bow to any and all commands issued by the US.... Don't get me wrong, the Liberals, NDP and Quebecois are all a pack of conniving, lying snakes.....whereas the conservatives don't necessarily look out for Canadians interests when it comes to commands issued by our southerly masters !

I can see why you don't like the Quebecois and the Liberals... Your from Western Canada. But times are different for the Conservatives now then when Mulroney was in office. The bowing we did kept us in the war this long. The amount of contraversy and accusations revolved around this war are the reason the Canadians are pulling out and going to Arctic to bolster Canadian sovereignty in the North. Starting with 600 infantrymen based in Quebec and Alberta will be the first to trade Afghan temperatures

Read more: www.vancouversun.com...

This is not the Mulroney Government. And please say "MY" not "OUR" Southerly Masters...

My only master is my wife!

Originally posted by Wyn Hawks
...has someone on here actually read the bill?... if so, can you tell me where it goes awry?...

It's about money, plain and simple, and you know what they say about money: root of all evil.
Copyright infringement is a big problem, and the studios do deserve to be paid, but we really need to think of the potential ramifications and future applications of this bill. Looks are deceiving.

Think of it as opening the flood gates.

Give them an inch, they'll eventually take a mile.