David Wilcock blog on Disclosure 10/23/10

Originally posted by DoomsdayRex

Originally posted by polarwarrior
You might wanna cheak your facts there again, that thread and c2c interview is from OCTOBER

Wow...you might want to go back and read the links I provided.

Yep here is the link you seem to think is from march.

Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
Wilcock did in fact predict Disclosure in '09, specifically citing it for the end of the year. As evidence by this thread from March 2009 about his appearance on Coast to Coast.

But I keep getting october?

Why does he mention pete in this "march" interview?

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Rahjian.....

Even Stanley Fulham

.....who is a lying con artist & hoaxer.....

prediction of the Oct. 13th siting came true.

Umm.....

No.....it didn't.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

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Something happened over midtown NYC that day. You are a hardcore skeptic just like Rex. All I see you do is try and debunk things on every topic. You guys seriously concern me, like you have an agenda to take down anyone who believes in Wilcock and Greer without any open-mindedness. I'm not saying they speak the truth, I'm saying they shouldn't be ignored.

Originally posted by Rahjian
Something happened over midtown NYC that day.

Balloons?

But even if there was a sighting of a genuine unknown over NYC that day, that wasn't Fulham's prediction. He claimed the aliens (Futurans? Or am I confusing that with a Godzilla movie?) would make appearances over the planet's principle cities. That did not come true.

Originally posted by Rahjian
He talked about events rapidly speeding up from 2009-2012, mainly in the form of natural disasters. Look at all the earth quake and hurricane and tropical storm and volcanic activity that has been going on.. and signs are pointing that it is getting worse. And all the wild political action.. with the economy on the verge of collapsing, China ready to collect from the US, all the recent news about aliens and the UN and Nasa involvements.. the CNN officers coming out saying UFOs deactivated nukes. This is exactly was he was projecting was was going to happen.

There is way too much in those videos to take them point by point, but I will say a lot of his physics is bad and many of his predictions were made by other people (often in the mainstream arena) before him or are based on confirmation bias.

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Rahjian.....

Something happened over midtown NYC that day.

Yes.....some balloons were released.

You are a hardcore skeptic

OK.....could you please do something for me here?

Please reply & tell me what you define as a "hard core skeptic"

Once I'm sure of your meaning, I shall reply.

And.....this is not a trick question. You might be pleasantly surprised by my reply.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

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Exactly.

It is just that: a theory and one that is unproven.

As I said, there are many pieces to this big puzzle that we call "life" and it's our goal to make sense of each piece and see how it fits within the bigger picture.

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you make a LOT of unproven accusations, and name calling. consistent attacking. claiming people who disagree with you are "not open-minded" and "ignorant". I hate to call someone a government dis-info agent....buuuuuuuuut if it walks like a duck...

I use to really enjoy David. But his posts of late just turn me off, ya kno, rub me the wrong way. I feel like he's an egomaniac! everything is "I" and "Me" and blah blah "look how wonderful i am"

In my opinion, DEFF not the reincarnated Edgar Cayce.

NOW he was a wonderful man

My friend,

Originally posted by cluckerspud
reply to post by Spiro

 

Pleasure to be here. No hard feelings.
Leaving ATS would be the hardest thing to outside of getting over my fear of the dentist and spiders.

Yes, sorry for being a tad hasty in my last post to you, had a hard day at work and took it out in cyber space lol

No hard feelings indeed my friend, cyber hug

Be safe be well

Spiro

Originally posted by TruthWizard
you make a LOT of unproven accusations

I was wrong about the time-frame and I admitted to it. Beyond that, I have not been wrong about anything regarding Wilcock or his behavior. Could you please point to an unproven accusation I have made?

Originally posted by TruthWizard
and name calling. consistent attacking

I did call someone a liar, you are right. Once when someone purposefully twisted what I had said. And the other time, I was wrong and admitted to it. I made the mistake of wanting to be right and got wrapped up in it.

Unlike Wilcock, I will gladly admit when I am wrong. I will not make excuses for it.

Originally posted by TruthWizard
claiming people who disagree with you are "not open-minded" and "ignorant".

Only in response to accusations of being closed-minded and ignorant for not agreeing with a particular viewpoint.

Originally posted by TruthWizard
I hate to call someone a government dis-info agent....buuuuuuuuut if it walks like a duck...

And you call people you disagree with "government dis-info agents," apparently.

Prove it. Or better yet, instead of talking about me, talk about Wilcock and his "mistakes".

ive watched many a willcock presentation. My spider sense immediately goes off and there's something about him I don't like. However, I watched a really long presentation he did and parts of it align with other theories coming up to 2012, especially the disasters/speeding up theory. I find Willcock and Greer equally troublesome. Quite often their presentations start well and by then end have gone off into a fantasy world. Willcock can contradict himself many times in the same presentation, which doesn't really fill me with confidence; plus have you seen the interview where he's on a couch wearing a long yellow scarf? I'm sure it's done on purpose to look like some kind of religious cleric... (if it's fashion, the guy is seriously off the mark!)

For now, I occasionally like the odd thing he posts but take it with a pinch of salt.

The way the 'disclosure event', was described was that above more than one major city a ships would uncloak, stay for a short while and then disappear again. Apparently it was to alert us to the growing level of CO2 in the atmosphere. This didnt happen, a few blurry videos and im none the wiser and i haven't seen any video evidence or heard about any incidents of any significance to back up the claims that were made. I wanted it to happen as much as the next person but now because I am sayingit didnt i keep getting called a debunker! Do people lose all sanity and logic when it comes to the subject of aliens?! I joined this site to look for proof that aliens exist because i believe they do but all i have met so far is hostility and abuse when i have supposedly debunked something.

What he said would happen, didnt happen. Thats the sad truth of the matter.

We can't just look at every video, picture, etc and then expect it to be real and definitely of E.T origin because then we would be as bad as the hoaxers making the videos. We should all be working together on this forum to find out the truth. I understand that some people are very passionate but you should not let that cloud your judgement.

To prove a vidoe or picture is real you have to rule out every other possible thing it could be, how will we do that unless we question it?

Originally posted by ceetee
However, I watched a really long presentation he did and parts of it align with other theories coming up to 2012, especially the disasters/speeding up theory

Some of his data is suspect. For instance, in his 2012 presentation he mentions tornadoes are increasing. In fact, they haven't. The number of reported tornadoes has indeed increased, but this is function of better technology in spotting tornadoes and increased capability of the public to report them. The number of tornado warnings has also increased, but in three-out-of-four cases it is a "false alarm". Source

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yes, this is the problem I find with Willcock. He speaks with conviction and the listener is supposed to believe what he says as truth, however when you actually look into some of his "facts" you find they aren't quite as he describes.I remember his view on the 2012 event being negative for humankind, then by the end of the lengthy presentation he'd changed tack and was describing the "enlightenment" as the most important thing to happen to us in our history. Nice of him to cover both angles there

So Wilcock is at it again, spreading his own mix of New Age disinformation. Remember the Norway Spiral (the one over Russia) and Dr Pete Peterson?

Originally posted by Rahjian
but he makes some good points.

He doesnot actually, he just continues with the same old lies. Has any of his claims ever come true?

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Hi,

Wilcock's is indeed shady.
Have you watched 2012 Enigma.
I could waste hours picking that apart, but it is just not worth it and the "believers" are merely just looking for someone to tell them what they want to hear, so I won't bother.

You know something is up when you claim your are Edgar Cayce reincarnated, also psychic but make bad predictions( Hello, where is disclosure?) then change your story, constantly.
You also know David is a scam artist when you notice the manipulation he uses to sell his lies.
That he makes statement without offering any real discussion or evidence to support them.
That he makes huge leaps of faith in his material, linking many "theories" and "conspiracies" on masse using the flimsiest notion or suggestion in order to create a narrative that does not really say anything or even show anything is really going to happen. In many of his video's he bombards people with so much stuff as he spins through his narrative that it amazes me that people don't actually research what he says.
Because I have.
The man is a scam artist.

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I agree whole heartedly with your reply. With the title clearly stating the it contains information from someone they don't believe in, you'd think they'd just sigh and move on........where on earth are their brains??

Even if David Wilcock stole his theories and repackaged them, so what! I started this thread to discuss the possibilities of what he says in his article, not because I think he is the keeper of all secret knowledge . People are derailing this on purpose. The blog article has two main subjects:

1) TV Shows like The Event (With the backwards E that flips in the middle when the show starts, I heard rumors that the reverse E is the symbol for something being true), shows like V, and Battlestar Galactica. They all have the same premise, a female alien humanoid leader with some sort of agenda whether it be good or bad. And not to mention the slew of movies and shows that are coming out about aliens in the media that David provides. And yes, this could be Hollywood taking advantage of the whole 2012 thing... but it also could be subtle disclosure.

and

2) China and their possible information they want to disclose.


Just like anything else when it comes to the supernatural, there are no FACTS. They are all projections, assumptions, predictions, and although some may be true, we won't know because of skeptics who will die before someone proves a UFO actually exists -_- , many of which are on this site with nothing to add other than negative off-topic comments to derail the subject and try and discredit someone they have no other information on, other than what they pieced together from the internet; a cesspool of false / true information that leads people to have die-hard attitudes on things like David Wilcock being a sham.

You debunkers are not physicists, nor government officials with top-secret intelligence. It is all relative, anything you read online could be propaganda or biased. This is just like how we believe growing up that our American history textbooks are filled with FACTS when the reality is for all we know the American Revolution for example could have been a sham hoax just like 9/11 could possibly be an inside job, but in the textbooks it was Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban stated as a FACT for children to absorb.

Open your mind or go elsewhere with your negative inputs. People are starting to smell disinfo agents.

But of course, they will go back to their troll caves and think of a random quote they can take from my post here, spin it, and keep this topic derailed.