OMG! HUGE Cache of New 911 footage released !!!

They don't fool me for one sec. They can keep pumping out world trade vides from now until javember , I want the pentagon videos .

Originally posted by sapien82
Shouldnt we all just give up , since the american government doesnt want a new investigation , and the UN wont take the Iranian president seriously to start a new investigation.
It seems fruitless to keep trying , 10 years later and still no answer .
We should just write this off as a JFK or something .

The saddest part is people lost their lives and nothing is being done about it , the world isnt happy that we didnt get any answers , and the governments involved just dont want to know .

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edit on 25-10-2010 by sapien82 because: (no reason given)

The problem with giving up and going along just to get along is that those who orchestrated this will do it again and kill even more people the next time. You will lose even more freedoms too.

Perhaps it will be you who is unfortunate enough to be at the wrong place next time hey? Or perhaps it will be a mother, father, brother, sister, spouse, or best friend who gets blown to bits to further an agenda of coercion. Would we be better off just forgetting about you and the reason you died just to keep the peace?

We will have no such peace if we hold our tongues and just give up these days my brother.

reply to post by smurfy


Could you please tell me at what time you first see this other craft? Also are you talking about the first video in the OP because for some reason zoomed in at 400 I still do not see any other craft.There was a police helicopter flying around after the first plane hit but as for anything else I just don't see it.

i havent had time to read throu it all yet but in the first video before the plane even comes into veiw just under the smoke in the right side of screen i noticed a nother plane fly all the way past the buildings u lose it in the smoke for abit but as it goes past the towers you can see its lights flashing

reply to post by Max_TO


Those videos from the pentagon should be the one that we break down and pick thru it with a fine tooth comb. Now that is where the real conspiracy happened. Too many questions and not near enough answers to satisfy.

reply to post by tsurfer2000h


Right you are and as long as they keep feeding us WTC vides our attention will be diverted .

Originally posted by Rahjian
Did you all seriously skip over my post and continue on with this nonsense about it not being a plane?

I KNOW SOMEONE WHO WAS ON THE SECOND PLANE THAT DIED.

Jesus christ people.

Ok so what makes you think they didn't land both commercial airliners at Stewart air force base? Here is a hint...google earth Stewart airport...then google the flight paths of the two planes that hit the towers...then look when and where those two planes cross paths....No one is saying planes weren't hijacked and the people on those planes didn't die...they just might not have died flying into the towers...

reply to post by Rahjian


People saw it I believe, but then you went on to make a joke about the hijackers and virgins, which IMO is in bad taste, people tend to skip around that kind of claim especially when you then go on to make a joke about the people who just supposedly flew a plane carrying your friend into a building.

So you want people to reply to you because you had a friend on board plane two, but then you make a joke out of it?

And then you ask if people skipped over replying to you, really?

reply to post by Conluceo


I have backed up, stopped and watched this now at least 20 times. OMG...I thought I had 911 on my back burner. Can I believe what I'm seeing? Is this possible? I know it is, but......how? Wings don't disappear. Guess I'll have to change what I believe about 911....again!

Thanks for the post. Unbelievable. How can people not question what happened? How can they just believe what they're told and not check things out for themselves. Perfect timing with Wikileaks. I'd like to see J. Ventura show these on his TV show....won't happen! ATS is awesome. WOW

Ok, so I have taken my break and I am not going through the thread. One witness video has been on my mind since I came across it.



So I decided to find out more about Mr. Eisler and I came across this

Mr Doug Eisler

Make of it what you will, but I'd say he certainly does know something about aircrafts. What bothers me most about the video is his quick explanation for the second explosion. The interviewer from WB specifically asked him "What about the second explosion" and his responce is "I think it was just from the heat"

So how does "heat" explode or create sound?

According to reports, approximately 2,000 of the fatalities in the Towers were those who were trapped above the alleged points of impact. Can someone please explain why there is virtually no video of any of these 2,000 individuals waving outside of their windows for help?

If you are above the fires and smoke is rising and engulfing the enclosed office, would it not make sense to break the window, stick your head out, be able to breathe easier and wave for help? Or does it make more sense to keep the smoke contained in a closed area and suffocate to death from smoke inhalation?

I recall seeing only one person waving from that height in a video taken by the NYPD Chopper at the scene. Only one person out of approximately 2,000 thought of doing this? Only one person out of 2,000 needed help breathing in sealed offices which were obviously filling with smoke? Does this make sense?

According to the following link, over 1,100 victims were never identified and over 800 victims were identified by DNA alone. Isn't it quite a coincidence that the sum of the unidentified victims and the DNA identified victims (1,900+) is extremely close to the approximately unseen 2,000 victims who were allegedly trapped above the fires?

911research.wtc7.net...

Below is a link of a breakdown to the fatalities at the WTC.

books.google.ca... hHUREPZ2OrJ4rUl3cIRKV7g&hl=en&ei=chLGTIK8HJHdnge10PyBAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=number%20of%20people%20trap ped%20above%20impact%20floors%20in%20wtc&f=false

While the addition of footage from these archives is interesting and sheds more light on that tragic day, I find it extraordinarily "dead horse beating". Interesting also is that the footage was chopped up into very small segments in order to increase the total package of deliverable videos. The biggest hole I find in the conspiracy argument is that people believe the government is so diabolical and intelligent it could pull off a magic trick of this enormity, yet it can't figure out how the hell to keep unwanted guests out of the white-house...... We have been "movie" played into believing the members of our government know more than the guy fixing the AC system at our home.

Lesot

If those are missiles, then they are moving quite slow.

reply to post by MrWendal


How does heat explode? Seriously you are kidding right? Here is a few vids that can answer your question.





That is how heat causes explosions. You also need to remember that passenger planes do have oxygen one way or another and oxygen is highly flammable and it doesn't take a super amount of heat to ignite.Especially if it compressed.

reply to post by RuGu HyPe


I have always thought there were planes there, and I still do, but I like to just play devils advocate. Here's a zoom in pic of the view where you can see the wink, but look, it's becoming see-through as it goes out of view.

Originally posted by WanderingThe3rd
The first video, look close, go to you tube bring and bring it up to its largest size and keep pausing it when the "plane" comes into view, it just appears out of no where, notice there is no tail?.. it looks like a flying saucer, and then when it hits the building, there is no explosion or damage, until the object is completely inside the building.

its weird

yeah i was bored waitin for yet some other dodgy / bad quality footage decided to drag the time line thru. all a sudden there's a long black object appears out of no where. im like wtf, scroll back. and it literally appears from no where. and looked to me like a saucer. was my first impression but yeah. looks rather large compared to the ones in the "SEPTEMBER CLUES" analysis.

reply to post by SphinxMontreal


Just wondering if you think adding oxygen to a fire is a real good idea? I don't know about you but that would be about the dumbest ting to do. Also those people were only thinking about how to get out before they die.What good is it to break windows and wave since the NYFD does not have anything that would be able to reach them. Also remember most office buildings have a protocol to follow in case of a fire. That would be a reason only a few were breaking windows and waving

Originally posted by Rahjian
Are you seriously that delusional that you don't think that was a PLANE?! You are &%$#@&! stupid if you don't. A friend of my family was ON THE SECOND PLANE. I also have an uncle who was working in one of the buildings in the WTC area who personally eye witnessed planes smashing into the towers.

Don't get me wrong, I believe 100% 9/11 was a sham. Bush knocked down the towers no doubt. But as to them not being planes? Come on get a grip.

I think we are all open to alternative explanations for the wing vanishing on multiple cameras at multiple angles. By all means, tell us why the wing vanishes? I'm listening.

Originally posted by Conscope
reply to post by Conluceo

 

The International Center for 9/11 Studies has secured the release of tens of thousands of photographs, and hundreds of hours of video footage, from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) under the Freedom of Information Act. You can download the entire NIST Cumulus Video Database (86GB) here:
911datasets.org...

this is to help keep everyone busy while their doing something else behind our back
2nd line

Originally posted by MrWendal
Ok, so I have taken my break and I am not going through the thread. One witness video has been on my mind since I came across it.

So I decided to find out more about Mr. Eisler and I came across this

Mr Doug Eisler

Make of it what you will, but I'd say he certainly does know something about aircrafts. What bothers me most about the video is his quick explanation for the second explosion. The interviewer from WB specifically asked him "What about the second explosion" and his responce is "I think it was just from the heat"

So how does "heat" explode or create sound?

Well, it is interesting that someone that knew about planes was there. I also thought it interesting that two film makers happened to be doing a documentary about the fire department that day.