OMG! HUGE Cache of New 911 footage released !!!

reply to post by okbmd


It is clear to me you would be very easy to manipulate, as you see things always going in one direction...and with a total lack of deep thought as to how to confuse and manipulate.

Please take this advice, it is not meant badly in any way, but take the break from 9/11 threads you claim to have done, because since i have been here, you haven't missed one that i can recall...

reply to post by spacekc929


The "motive" for releasing this material , is that it was requested through the FOIA . Simple as that .

Numerous posters are raising this question and see it as suspect that all of this is being released at this time . There is really nothing sinister about it . Someone requested it through the FOIA , and it was released .

People seem to think that the government should have just released all of this a long time ago . Who were they going to release it to ? Were they going to just package all of it up and send it to each and every member of ATS ?

Were they just going to release it all to the media ? Why ? Would the media have broadcast all of it , AGAIN ?

Originally posted by WanderingThe3rd
The first video, look close, go to you tube bring and bring it up to its largest size and keep pausing it when the "plane" comes into view, it just appears out of no where, notice there is no tail?.. it looks like a flying saucer, and then when it hits the building, there is no explosion or damage, until the object is completely inside the building.

its weird

Yeah I didn't even read your post yet and I was doing the same thing, messing around with frames [well as much as you can on youtube] and it takes a full 1~ second in the video for the damage to be shown after the plane 'enters' the building.'

If someone really wants to get on my case or anyone's for that matter, about this video in particular, I'll download it and break it down frame by frame myself, but I really don't think in this case I should have too - it's very obvious.

If you're asking how the government got a hold of most of the videos - well think about it - certain people knew ahead of time that the first plane was going to strike (therefore only very few videos of the first strike).

Then, people on the streets are taping, not professionally, and anything decent that is shown is taken (so that doesn't mean 1000's of videos, it could mean only a handful if you think about it).

To everyone who says "well so many thousands of people would have to be involved in this coverer up, it's impossible!"

Well, have you ever thought of things like this...

Party A is what we'll call the 'elite'
Party B are those directly below them who know almost everything that Party A does.
Party C is working for Party B, but is limited to certain information, and some dis-info is thrown in the mix to make things a bit confusing.
Party D is working for Party B as well, but they are told different information and they are led to believe what they know is the truth.

Party A now has B, C & D under their thumbs and a lot of confusing information is going around, making this cover up much easier than it seems to be.

Those who think that 9/11 being an inside job is impossible because of having to hide the truth from so many people while keeping up with their lies they told so many, it really isn't that hard. We've all lied in our lives, pick one that was successful and think of it on a larger scale - much, much larger. It is very possible.

I still feel horrible for those who died on 9/11 and I always will, and I think it is our duty to keep debunking videos and finding the real ones and piecing it all together and trying to get the real info.

reply to post by GrinchNoMore

It is clear to me you would be very easy to manipulate, as you see things always going in one direction...and with a total lack of deep thought as to how to confuse and manipulate.

Please take this advice, it is not meant badly in any way, but take the break from 9/11 threads you claim to have done, because since i have been here, you haven't missed one that i can recall...

To the contrary , I am not manipulated easily , at all .

Furthermore , your two paragraphs contradict each other , as I don't "see things always going in one direction...and with a total lack of deep thought " . If you were truly aware of my posting history , as you claim , you would know that I was a "truther" when I joined this site . That would kill your "one direction" theory .

And , there are several 9/11 threads I have not participated in , due mainly to the very same mentality that I see in this thread .

No offence , and none taken from your post either .

Originally posted by Riffrafter

Originally posted by MrWendal
Second impact... I think I have a whole new understanding of what people say when they talk about how great the flying had to have been.

Thanks for posting this.

Does anyone know what the loud, irritating buzzer sound is?

It started almost immediately after the plane hit which is very odd.

I'm surprised how steady the camera is as the plane howls in from behind the cameraman.No distraction and eyes fixed on prize.Retrofitted?

Watch about posting some of these videos.
a good number if these amateur and pro videos are copyrighted by the people that took them.

The government asked for these for there 9/11 investigations and never ask the copyright holders for permission to release them.

A couple professional photographers sites are already talking about why the government released them without permission of the copy right holders or without crediting the copyright holders.

Not sure if it's been said in the previous 10 pages or not, if I'm being honest I just didn't feel like wading through all the usual 'OMG! more proof'.

First off, getting the planes wrong doesn't add much to your credibility. It's an F-15, not an F-18 (F-18's vertical stabilizers are angled out, F-15's go pretty much straight up).

Secondly, the smoking gun missing wing footage is due to poor video compression, nothing more. When you've got a fast moving object against a complex background such as the buildings the encoder can't process the information so it averages the data & what you get is the smudge where the wing should be. Really guys, it's that simple. Planes hit the WTC on Sept. 11, 2001.

Question what you want about who's behind the planes, who knew what & let what slip past all the security, but stop chasing the red herring of 'there were no planes'.

Originally posted by ANNED
Watch about posting some of these videos.
a good number if these amateur and pro videos are copyrighted by the people that took them.

The government asked for these for there 9/11 investigations and never ask the copyright holders for permission to release them.

A couple professional photographers sites are already talking about why the government released them without permission of the copy right holders or without crediting the copyright holders.

Thanks for that information, anyway you can let us know which ones?

Originally posted by ethancoop

First off, getting the planes wrong doesn't add much to your credibility. It's an F-15, not an F-18 (F-18's vertical stabilizers are angled out, F-15's go pretty much straight up).

Thanks Ethan, It's been covered, and secondly credibility in regards to what exactly?

reply to post by blah yada


Excactly, I know if I was filming the tower right after the first hit, then heard the roar of the second plane coming in, I would have spun and focused on the approach and followed it in,I would have got a clear shot of the nose as it appraoched, then the side view as it passed then the tail end as it impacted....The roar comes in way before impact, he had to have heard it.but he stayed focused.What language was that by the way and can we translate it.Peace.

Originally posted by Sunlionspirit
reply to post by MrWendal

 

ok man, but this is much TOO IMPORTANT to take a brake ... sorry man .... this is about the future of OUR
society, our families : do we live in a George Orwell one or in a real good warm human one ????
so, take your brake AFTER truth is knowed, but for the moment we have to fight for knowing it !!!!
peace !

Well, what stops you from going through each and every single video? I needed a break, deal with it and feel free to get off your lazy back side and watch the videos for yourself and not rely on me to bring out what I find to be most interesting. Do it yourself.

Originally posted by WanderingThe3rd
The first video, look close, go to you tube bring and bring it up to its largest size and keep pausing it when the "plane" comes into view, it just appears out of no where, notice there is no tail?.. it looks like a flying saucer, and then when it hits the building, there is no explosion or damage, until the object is completely inside the building.

its weird

I was sitting in m class in 7th grade and actually saw the second plane hit. It is a plane and we have documentation of it from the hijacked flight records. Trust me.

Originally posted by MrWendal

Originally posted by Sunlionspirit
reply to post by MrWendal

 

ok man, but this is much TOO IMPORTANT to take a brake ... sorry man .... this is about the future of OUR
society, our families : do we live in a George Orwell one or in a real good warm human one ????
so, take your brake AFTER truth is knowed, but for the moment we have to fight for knowing it !!!!
peace !

Well, what stops you from going through each and every single video? I needed a break, deal with it and feel free to get off your lazy back side and watch the videos for yourself and not rely on me to bring out what I find to be most interesting. Do it yourself.

Dude chill out mr wendal it is ok to take a break and if you dont take a break from watching these videos it means you have no life. Im glad he is taking a break. He can gather his thougths, think and then go watch more without being overwhelmed and we already know that osama bin laden attacked the buildings well didnt attack but he is the mastermind behind it. So what truth are you trying to find?

reply to post by okbmd


And what mentality is that ?? You flat out agree with the official story, and thats the bottom line ??

My post states clearly what i think, that you run in circles saying why would someone do this, and then do that, that it does not make sense to you,

You do not appear to realize there are no "common sense rules" being applied to these type of things, yet are trying to fit all this stuff into that rationalization.

You do not seem to care that almost none of the events make any sense, but try god knows hard to make others believe it could.

I see buildings absolutely exploding into nothingness, and you do not, too me this shows a complete lack of reality, which of course you can defend by making statements like,, "Nothing like this happened before !" So see that it COULD have happened !! Utter nonsense.

I have yet to see anyone i talk to not change there minds about this, however you may hide yourself behind a keyboard, and say whatever, but in fact anyone can see this is far beyond ANY PART of the official tale...and I realize that anyone defending it is well and truly lost.

Total transparency should be had, in ALL things, and this same covering up government has said its bad for people to have truth out,, well dam,, that just seals it,, People live in your fed lies!! and never mind all the crap around you, We got your best interests at heart and NEVER need to prove it !!

ok went through every vid of second plane hitting and compiled each frame from the last frame before the second plane struck...so it is all your hands now
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Personally i believe planes hit the towers...I believe it was an inside job so to speak...but people know that.
I am just looking at any and all anomallies.

Cheers

reply to post by kid_cudi


well it is a shame that you actually believe that it was Osama Bin Laden behind it...but we will not go into that in this thread as it has been discussed so often....
also I still think it is a shame that people still believe some amature pilots just jumped into the cockpits with very little training and accomplished this task under the strain of committing a hijacking at the same time.
But lets keep looking at the footage....it is good to be looking at some new material...and it is still strange that it would take an FOIA request to get this stuff released.

Originally posted by okbmd
The "motive" for releasing this material , is that it was requested through the FOIA . Simple as that .

by WHOM???

and how do you have
this knowledge???

ur sources please???
thanks

Originally posted by dreamsnatcher
reply to post by ugie1028

 

In the first video does anyone have an explanation about all the flashes that are coming from the building starting at about 1:50 (when they pan out, far left)into the video? It continues until the the end of the video but not in a flashing strobe type of order, and I don't think you would see camera flashes from that distance. Whatever is creating the flashes is pretty high powered.

And the plane in the first video is not an F-18 it is an F-15.

I saw this aswell, i saw the flying object then a few seconds later the white flashes getting closer to the building BEFORE the plane hit, maybe something else hit the building first?

reply to post by kid_cudi

Trust me.

LMAO - this has to be the best line of the day. Maybe the best line of the year on ATS.

Thanks for the laugh, my friend.

reply to post by plube


This might be a stupid question but I'm trying to figure out after ten years why and where all this new footage is coming from, and why now ? Was there any video confiscated from those Isreali mossad guys after they were arrested that day? If so, has any of it come to light, or could some of this footage be from that source? Peace.