OMG! HUGE Cache of New 911 footage released !!!

Originally posted by kid_cudi

I was sitting in m class in 7th grade and actually saw the second plane hit. It is a plane and we have documentation of it from the hijacked flight records. Trust me.

Wow! It's actually quite sad how closed minded you are. You saw it on TV so it must be true? All is said and done because you saw it on Channel 4? You said "we" have documentation from the flight records? Care to share your awesome inside knowledge that you obtained when you were in 7th grade? I bet you believe that we couldnt find the multi-ton steel engines but we could find paper passports!

Are you kidding me??

Originally posted by Anttyk47

Are you kidding me??

Are you kidding me???

Originally posted by MrWendal
This video I found very interesting. Very early on, just a second or two into the clip you hear what sounds to me like a very large explosion. What struck me as odd however was the lack of reaction from anyone in the clip.

That's just the noise of the external mic being turned on.

well it seems that most people
won't listen to reason so I submit
your invisible wing hologram
debunk. Please note I have
taken a screen of the missing wing
photo posted here in this thread
and ran it through an editing filter
to take out some highlights
and deeply adjusted the contrast
and please note the big blue box
overlay on the plane's wing and tail
section and it overlaps. This image
and the video have been hoaxed.
It was intentionally manipulated
for an agenda. Next time pay attention
folks. Deny ignorance. I told ya so

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/113ddc6b3b27.png[/atsimg]

video debunked as hoax

reply to post by boondock-saint


Or it could be some really amatuer CGI that got botched... It could go either way. That box can be an alpha modifier to hide a 3D object, that was not positioned correctly.

reply to post by boondock-saint


holy crap, tripleposted...

reply to post by boondock-saint


holy crap, tripleposted...

I aways look at threads like this but rarely log into my account or post, but C'mon already. Obviously something happened that is being covered up, if you are too ignorant to believe this then you definitely need a reality check. The "people who run/government" of this country as well as many other have done many horrid things to their "own people" since the mid 1900's to this day and it will continue into the future. Its way too late for anything to ever change drastically for the good as it wont be allowed by powerful people who benefit from the "bad." These videos and others have clearly shown more than enough evidence that 9/11 was not what the general population was told. Money can make people hurt, kill, and it can also drive people insane. If you where offered two or three billion dollars or even half a million to take the fall for what I would call the greatest act of "terrorism" to occur in the United States. Would you do it? Your family would be set forever and you would do a little jail time and they would spruce it up to make it seem like you where doing hard time like has been seen a few other times(what ever did happen to some of those ENRON guys?). However, Instead of that hard time you really did a few months got a new face, new name, and a new identity. And as long as you kept your mouth shut you "possibly" would actually have a chance of living the life of a king and you would not die from some "freak accident/bullet."

What other proof do you people who think that the government could do no wrong and could never have anything to do with 9/11 want? No one in power who has ties to the government is going to come out and say we constructed the mass murder of our own people. They would be dead before they even thought about anything like that. Think back to how this country was really founded, Native Americans where Murdered/raped by many of your ancestors for resources, land, and money. Hundreds of thousands to millions of slaves where brought over by many of your ancestors for money, more money, and hate. I bet there are at least a million people in this day and age who wish slavery still existed in the back of their minds. Fast forward to this era September 11th "may have happened" so some people could get money, more money, and more POWER. If you think about it many of our ancestors where nothing but murderers who where greedy and wanted more land, resources, and power(sound familiar ) . Those families handed their knowledge, wealth, and power to their offspring but they gave them tips on how to due all this stuff with less hassle and and in an easier manner. Some of these kids may have said no we do not want to live our lives like this, but Im sure the majority carried on the family legacy and it will continue. People change for the good sometimes but more often than not if you are taught something from child hood on you are going to stick with it. This is like some of the people that are on this earth today, on this forum and especially in this country for some reason who believe everything is perfect in the world and the government and people who run corporations who benefit off of bloodshed would not do anything to hurt me even if my house was on top of an untapped oil well or something else that could make money or better yet give someone more POWER.

To conclude my very off-topic rant and try and put it back on course. All I am saying is that September 11th didnt happen because of a terrorist organization getting mad and deciding to ram two planes into the twin towers. Something else happened and it is clearly being covered up why else would the government confiscate certain recordings that may show something that they do not want to be seen.

THINK ABOUT HOW MANY TIMES YOU HAVE LIED THROUGHOUT YOUR LIFETIME FOR SMALL AND BIG THINKS IN YOUR OWN PERSONAL LIFE AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT. NOW THINK ABOUT HAVING EVERY RESOURCE IN THIS WORLD AND "BRAINWASHED" PEOPLE TO BACK YOU UP BECAUSE OF YOUR WORD ALONE WITH NO SOLID EVIDENCE AT ALL AND YOU HAVE HAD HUNDREDS OF YEARS TO PERFECT THE LIEING TECHNIQUES ,HOW TO KILL PEOPLE, HOW TO MAKE MORE MONEY, AND TO GET PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING YOU WANT. HOWEVER TO GET TO THE MONEY, AND ANYTHING YOU WANT PART, YOU WILL HAVE TO KILL A FEW THOUSAND OF YOUR OWN PEOPLE AS WELL AS HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND OF OTHER PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD BUT YOU HAVE TO LIE ABOUT IT SO YOUR NOT THE BAD GUY AND WANTING TO BE KILLED BY ALMOST EVERYONE. IM SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY/PEOPLE IN THE GOVERNMENT WOULD DO ANYTHING TO COVER UP THIER LIES.

Sorry for all of the caps in the last paragraph but it was to emphasize it. I have not seen this asked but What makes you guys who believe the typical September 11th story think that we are NOT being lied to about who did this and why it really happened when we have been lied to before?

lol, wow
not even a star for
my efforts

guess this is not what
most wanted to see or hear

I want truth just as bad as
anybody does. But hoaxing or faking
videos is NOT the way to get
that truth. It just makes us
truthers look like a bunch of
nuts. And maybe that was the
agenda behind this hoax.
best wishes

boon

i have taken ,blah yada´s word about something in the sky in this 9/11video.: www.youtube.com...


and here is 5 pic of the mysticobject : UFO









i am dunno about what it is, but it is fast ;

reply to post by boondock-saint


Actually I did star you lol. You did a photo analysis, I don't know you, but seems you do know a bit about it. I just pointed out what I do know a bit about, 3d CGI. We both could be wrong, who knows lol. But they are both possibilities.

reply to post by boondock-saint


Would the purpose of editing the impact video of the second plane to make the wing dissapear bring more people to the holographic theory and gain support?
Im not sure I see the point in going back to edit the video to make the wing dissapear.
Are the hologram theorists doing this to get people on side?

Anyways what I still cant get over is why the plane didnt disintegrate on impact like this

phantom vs wall

that phantom was travelling at 500mph , and the 757 was going faster than that and had more fuel !
and when you look at the video of the plane hitting the WTC the just in the frame as it hits the side there doesnt even appear to be any initial surface damage like a hole appearing or a tear in the structure , it just looks like the plane slices right through it .

If the building was designed to withstand imapcts from airliners then fair enough but it doesnt even look that bad on initial impact.

Also I've never really looked to much into this subject but the loose change video , I never knew about the extra under carriage section.

If the planes were indeed remote controlled , then what the hell happened to all the passengers, if they were just rounded up and shot ! Sickening

wouldnt it be vital to get radar tracking under FOIA from the airports they left from ?

Originally posted by boondock-saint
well it seems that most people
won't listen to reason so I submit
your invisible wing hologram
debunk. Please note I have
taken a screen of the missing wing
photo posted here in this thread
and ran it through an editing filter
to take out some highlights
and deeply adjusted the contrast
and please note the big blue box
overlay on the plane's wing and tail
section and it overlaps. This image
and the video have been hoaxed.
It was intentionally manipulated
for an agenda. Next time pay attention
folks. Deny ignorance. I told ya so

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/113ddc6b3b27.png[/atsimg]

video debunked as hoax

Not being a video expert it took me a minute to figure out what you were saying and then to correlate it to what I was seeing in your pic.

I don't know you at all, but I believe you did exactly as you said and the results are what you posted. Thanks for doing this.

So now I guess the question is: If this is doctored (I saw a post right after yours saying the box may be due to something else video-technical so will leave that possibility open), but again if doctored - by whom? For what purpose?

I don't think you can automatically assume that it was a "truther" or other troublemaker though. Maybe there was something about that shot and the angle it was taken from that showed something the TPTB didn't want seen?

Seems a stretch, I know, but it's possible - no?

Again - I have no dog in this fight. I was simply responding to the vids released and posted today.

Thanks again for the effort in getting that image up.

reply to post by sapien82

it's agenda is to make truthers
appear nuts and to divide us
on our theories of how 9/11
happened. Divide and conquer.

reply to post by mark1167


Well to me personally it all looks like it is foia requested footage from news agencies...so nothing really spectacular but it is new footage to analyse...and yes it is compressed and it is video so it can all be manipulated...i am not going to manipulate any footage but i will present it for people to scrutinise.....
as i am sure it will be torn to shreds by both sides of the fence...but out of all the tearing and shreding some more answers and questions will come to light i am sure.

reply to post by plube


Like i always had said 9/11 A BIG LIE

Originally posted by Riffrafter
Not being a video expert it took me a minute to figure out what you were saying and then to correlate it to what I was seeing in your pic.

I don't know you at all, but I believe you did exactly as you said and the results are what you posted. Thanks for doing this.

So now I guess the question is: If this is doctored (I saw a post right after yours saying the box may be due to something else video-technical so will leave that possibility open), but again if doctored - by whom? For what purpose?

I don't think you can automatically assume that it was a "truther" or other troublemaker though. Maybe there was something about that shot and the angle it was taken from that showed something the TPTB didn't want seen?

Seems a stretch, I know, but it's possible - no?
Again - I have no dog in this fight. I was simply responding to the vids released and posted today.
Thanks again for the effort in getting that image up.

this was NOT a camera flaw due to pixelation
and I cite the color anomalies and distortions
would be BEHIND the black object (plane).
This color overlay was added AFTER the fact
in editing thus causing the overlay to overlap
the wing and tail. So this WAS intentional
by somebody. By whom?
I have no idea

But they can't fool everybody

Shouldnt we all just give up , since the american government doesnt want a new investigation , and the UN wont take the Iranian president seriously to start a new investigation.
It seems fruitless to keep trying , 10 years later and still no answer .
We should just write this off as a JFK or something .

The saddest part is people lost their lives and nothing is being done about it , the world isnt happy that we didnt get any answers , and the governments involved just dont want to know .

Can you FOIA request the american aviation authority , for radar data on where the planes that were hijacked were on the radar system , when they took off , and where they went ?
Do the FAA or whatever they are called keep radar data , like tapes or something for investigation purposes.
There must have been numerous radar tracking on that day , so there would have been a whole bunch of radar data.
I guess they havent released any and wont for a long time !

Originally posted by sapien82
Shouldnt we all just give up ,

absolutely not !!!
the truth will come out one day
just like it did with JFK
it may take decades but
the truth will come out
eventually.