2 helicopters circle a large blue flashing object

Originally posted by magestyk7
I've noticed that after the Norway light event took place, UFO sightings have increase dramatically.
For some reason the skeptics here or elsewhere debunks them right away as Commercial Planes, Balloons, Skydivers, RC Planes, Rockets and other stuff.
Right away they try to look for some activity of what could have been taking place at the time around that area and they try to explain it. Yet they themselves dont know 100% what it is.
It's like they are afraid to admit it's a U.F.O.

Last time I checked the meaning of U.F.O it meant Unidentified Flying Object.
It dont mean it's ALIEN or MAN MADE. It's just a U.F.O.

It's UNIDENTIFIED

NO Debunker here on ATS knows for 100% what the F**K this or most other stuff that's been poping up (Specially the last 2 weeks) is.

I call Everything a UFO(not Alien made), why because until I find out what it is that's the PROPER label for the Object in question.

Any fool/sheep here that cant think for themselves needs to seek knowledge for themselves but most importantly be open minded. Because if you don't know what the heck it is then it's ok to call it a U.F.O until it lands and you can see for your self that it's a PLANE, BALLOON, ROCKET, SKYDIVER or whatever it was.

edit on 22-10-2010 by magestyk7 because: (no reason given)

If we are looking at footage that could be something like an airplane, heli etc but decide to say screw it, im going on faith with this one, its ET does nothing but deceive if it really is an airplane or heli. We want evidence that is truly amazing that we can show others. If we praised every light in the sky as a UFO/Alien we wouldnt be 'denying ignorance' if we truly didnt investigate and get to the bottom of it...Like it or not, about 95% of UFO cases can be easily explained!

reply to post by ziggyproductions05


Your reasoning is flaw and here is why.
The label U.F.O was created for objects that cant be identified at the present moment.
When you 100% Identify the object then you lavel it what it is, Plane, Balloon, Rocket and so on.
The problem is that the label U.F.O has taken a different meaning and it's associated with Aliens and that's not right.
Have you seen with your own eyes an Alien space craft land? How you know the craft is Alien in the first place?
You dont know and that's why you say it's a U.F.O.

Debunkers dont like using the label U.F.O. anymore because to them is like saying that is Alien and I agree in their views. I think we should use the label as it was originally intended and call all Unidentified Flying Objects U.F.O's and then when we are 100% sure then we label it properly.

I remember in 1996 i was one of the lucky few seeing a strange black triangular object in the sky.
I didnt know what it was so I called it a UFO.
Back then the internet wasn't big like it is today, BUT we had good discussions.
Debunkers didnt try to lable it right away as something that they though it was.
They would say something like.... "You know this UFO is probably a plane that we heard the military was working on and...."

WE ALL AGREE and it was a U.F.O. even the hard skeptics because we didnt know what it was.
1 year later the Skeptics were right about the U.F.O.

It was the B2 Stealth Bomber that was unveiled to the public in 1997.

The moral is, if you dont know 100% call it a UFO but make sure you clarify it's NOT ALIEN and State your reasons or give facts as to why.
The flying object in question in this video is a U.F.O. and WE ALL should agree on that for the moment.

Not sure if it's Alien made though, if the video showed the UFO doing crazy stuff or taking/flying off at crazy speed then it would have most likely been Extraterrestrial in nature.

HAHAHA the differnces between technogly is the most amusing thing i have ever seen.
Helicopter, and anti gravity ship, they must be thinking "DAMN, our ancestors are primtive, they are soo dumb they think we are aliens"

But really sucha time differnce, they would be seen like aliens, like a neanderthul would look at us.

reply to post by magestyk7


OK, i see what you're saying. I can agree with that. But even if we catch a genuine ET UFO on film, and its characteristics are similiar to a plane, balloon, what have you, we pretty much MUST throw it out because it will be tossed aside by a skeptic regardless. You know what i mean by that? THis is such a tough subject to be a part of and there are soooo many dynamics.

reply to post by ziggyproductions05


For Skeptics and Believers that's the satisfaction they will get that you have IDENTIFIED a U.F.O.
Then we can label the identified object as an Extra-Terrestrial Craft for example.
Now it becomes the Alien issue.
There could be many Aliens out-there and we dont know who made it or who's flying it.

Oh come on people. This is obviously some type of RC aircraft or kite with lights. It's so obvious they are just a bunch of flashing L.E.D.s! They look like floating Christmas lights people....

Also, why on Earth would alien, or secret craft, need all those useless lights? Those lights are obviously for looks only. Or to help the remote pilot see his craft so he can fly it.

Also, those human aircraft that passed by were FAR AWAY. The depth of field and focus from the camera should have told you that. The UFO and aircraft were not in focus at the same time, it was either one or the other in focus. This is because the aircraft or "helicopter" was probably 1000's of feet behind, which made the "UFO" look big.

This is so obviously an RC craft that I just have to laugh. There seems to be a lot of newbie UFOlogist arriving to the scene in October. Listen, just because you took a blurry night shot of something and YOU can't identify it, doesn't mean the people who have been researching UFO's for multiple decades can't identify it.

All these false sightings are doing is making people think "UFO" activity is rising, which it isn't. More like stupidity is rising.

Also, didn't anyone notice it had 4 points, like a + ?

That is just like a quadrocopter with custom lights....

Yup, dont you people know alien crafts are black with know lights and they cloak them self in secret
You guys see "ufo" every day, you should know by now how to tell

Like how Ren said to Stimpy, " you idiot."

Nah, but dont you hate how "people act like they know what a "ufo" looks like.

reply to post by 0ne10


I've always wondered why 'ET's' just dont cloak themselves as well? I've seen what i think is genuine evidence and they seem to be trying to make themselves known in my opinion. But, i dont think we should start questioning how ET would act just yet. Also, in that footage in the OP, its damn near impossible to judge distance of any of the objects..

It's def. not ET because if it was ET it wouldn't be perfect blue lights flashing, or even anything we could explain. Now what it is i don't know hell it could be a joke, but most real UFO'S are almost impossible to just catch on cam. We might get 1-5 REAL ET/DEMONIC ufo videos a year in total those are mostly disk shaped free moving orbs and such.

reply to post by VenomVile.6




Why dont they shoot it down??? I know theyd shoot me down if i was just floating in a hot air balloon above the capital dropping cotton candy to my audience.

CLEARLY! They know what it is, and dont want to shoot it down for reasons that will be kept secret.

reply to post by ziggyproductions05


At 0:42, the "helicopter", which I think is a jet, and the "UFO" are both in the same shot, and the focus of the camera messes up. This split second of camera focus error tells me the "helicopter" is a lot farther away then the "UFO" because they "helicopter" goes out of focus first, then the "UFO" goes out of focus.

Also, the "helicopter" flies right under the "UFO". I doubt they would ever risk such a thing. This leads me to believe they were not even near each other, and one was much much farther away. It didn't pass under it...

Those blinking blue L.E.D.s are one of the most popular selling lights in the RC business.

I'd say this sighting is bunk. Just more people filming whatever and calling it a UFO.

This helicopter presence is becoming a trend that we can't ignore. 30 seconds after the UFO I witnessed disappeared, I heard a helicopter coming from behind and moving to the exact location where the green lights had appeared. Anyway it just constitutes more evidence that the government is hiding something.

By the way I want to say that the green lights I saw were very similar to those in this video. They were scattered about and I wasn't sure if they comprised multiple objects or a single one. I saw it for a few seconds through the trees out of my side window as I was driving. When the trees came in the way I'd drive a bit more and see it through another clearing. I parked my car immediately, ran to the location where I spotted it, and it was gone. Soon after I heard the helicopter approaching. The fact that I only saw it for a few seconds and didn't stop immediately really kills me, because at the time I thought perhaps its just a reflection. Now I have to dwell on that moment for the rest of my life.

well clearly it appears after 7 pages of reply's the questions are what lies..

I wont give this thread much more credit since it appears the trolls are getting more respect then the truly intelligent people trying to understand or at least draw logical conclusions, that is also the shame of ats, it has so much potential let me reprise that it has always had so much potential, yet unfortunetly instead of realizing or remembering the notion or notions that we are part of something bigger just seems to bewilder and even upset us to a point where we place blame on such and constrict our own growth within a illusion as we have all thru out history written history that is that we are the center of all things. To be quite honest I have no clue when or if we can ever go beyond the plateau that we are in as a whole in this materialistic man made society or culture par se that we have grown to think is all that exists. Quite frankly I do not really even care anymore. to sum this up in a nutshell their are only two possibilities for this footage. The first its bait, it appears in the past month or so their has been allot of bait out there, for what purpose I am not sure, perhaps its deeper then one would think, perhaps even such bait is trying to surmise such a thing as people like me who try to figure things out intelligently. Whatever the case the part where we are part of something bigger is exemplified in to say the least even odd youtube postings as this. The other possibility is this is footage of something unexplainable to the public. Yet the oddity once more is the event is personalized to just one individual who is getting attention on youtube over it. Since I see no one further researching this footage or looking for facts it once again brings be to my conclusion of even if this is the truth, or authentic, it is more important for many amongst yourself to be ignorant to it, and accept what you think you see instead of what it is. Since really finding out what it really is seems to be not the point of many people's conclusion.

reply to post by harrytuttle


Harry,
Rude. Anyway, I happened to glance out the window and the video camera was completely dead which is why everything was so rushed since I was not sure how long that would be up in the sky. Anyway, once switched to autofocus the camera stopped recording and when we realized it had stopped recording (30 seconds later) we hit record and the object was gone.


Now for the other conjecture.

The object was approximately 3-4 miles away. I dont know if it was a kite with LED's or whatever I just thought, gee I should film this. It was only there for a few minutes which is why everything was rushed, silly excuses I know but how often do you sit down to watch some 30 Rock after a long days work and see that out your window.

The raw HD video is way better than youtube quality and you can make out the object and distance much better, sorry youtubers.

I would say that it was about two to three times the size of a helo, which is why I did not brush it off and call it a kite and ignore it.
Thanks!


EDIT:



As a sidenote as well, I have been in DC for seven years and not seen anything like that. For those on here that have never been to DC, unless you are military aircraft, getting anything bigger than a party balloon in the sky is near impossible. It could have been someones prank who knows.

For clarification, the view from where that was filmed is right next to the Pentagon (on columbia pike looking southeast) appearing directly above Reagan Airport. Right across the river is Bolling Air Force Base, if you were going to float a hoax aircraft, wouldn't you do it somewhere less likely than in between the Airport and the Military base? Could have been a mil test.

But I did not put the video on youtube to get called out on a site like ATS by a couple of trolls. I just put it up so some friends could see it, and it obviously took off from there.

reply to post by harrytuttle


Harry,
Rude. Anyway, I happened to glance out the window and the video camera was completely dead which is why everything was so rushed since I was not sure how long that would be up in the sky. Anyway, once switched to autofocus the camera stopped recording and when we realized it had stopped recording (30 seconds later) we hit record and the object was gone.


Now for the other conjecture.

The object was approximately 3-4 miles away. I dont know if it was a kite with LED's or whatever I just thought, gee I should film this. It was only there for a few minutes which is why everything was rushed, silly excuses I know but how often do you sit down to watch some 30 Rock after a long days work and see that out your window.

The raw HD video is way better than youtube quality and you can make out the object and distance much better, sorry youtubers.

I would say that it was about two to three times the size of a helo, which is why I did not brush it off and call it a kite and ignore it.
Thanks!

reply to post by 0ne10


It's highly possible this UFO could be an RC controlled object.

The reason is most RC's that have these light's, stabilizers and electrics can only fly up to 25 minutes.
This video i'm afraid is only a few minutes long which adds to your theory.

However If this UFO was in the air for hours around the same place then your theory is debunked.
Highly doubt it because this took place on Washington DC and we all know they are paranoid about stuff flying over their airspace.

So far this is the best theory until more info pops up.

reply to post by Ali3nAlly


Ali3nAlly.....

Jesus, you are one annoying person.

If you will clarify your meaning therein, I will endeavour to reply.

What is it about my activity in this thread that makes me"one annoying person", in the context of my objective of upholding the ATS Credo & denying ignorance?

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

reply to post by magestyk7


why would someone go thru the dang trouble to put a rc helicopter up in the air with blue led lights up in the sky? Just thinking of this makes it premeditated, and also how it moves seems a lil difficult for a rc helicopter, but whatever I just wish someone could analyze the video and see if its altered or whatever.. We can go on and on about this, without someone looking closer for information..

who knows.. Whatever the case if its fake the person who did it has a mental illness, is all I have to say..

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not


Why are they going so hard on you lately? I hope people realize we need to be skeptical, ask questions, etc to really deny ignorance. Im trying to get better with that as well. You're not annoying MMN, just inquisitve. That Revisiting Nellis Air Force Base UFO' thread you made was damn near perfection to let you know. I have been looking over all the information you posted on that sighting today. I think a lot of new members should check that footage and thread out and compare it to this, along with all the information you posted to really get an idea of a good UFO report/sighting. Im trying to become better with that as well. 'Put another shrimp on the barbie mate!!'