What happened in the 17 days the miners refuse to talk about?

As someone who has spent a long time underground, I would like to add some perspective on this.

These men would be very comfortable with being underground before the accident, a million times the possibility of something like this happening would have gone through their minds, maybe not to these extremes, but I promise they would have often let thoughts like this pass through their minds, its a way of coping.

Even just working down at those depths they would have run through what they would do, even have a plan to get to safety, they would have had training and each miner would have had some kind of training in dealing with such an emergency, like someone said a first aider, a leader, all would have intimate knowledge of their working environment.

They would have food stored because its a long way to travel just to take a lunch break, intake of food even during normal working days would be necessary, so they would have had more than just cans of tuna for the first few days, if they rationed it then it would have lasted longer.

They would know that there would be someone coming to try and get them out, they would have known they would not be left down there,although the amount of time it took would have cast some doubt, and I'm certain some tension would have built, a strong leader would have brought them through that.

There would be a lot of things to occupy themselves while they where stuck, it would have been up to the miners what to do to keep from getting stressed out, working would have been a good way to pass the days.

Remember they had Families which would have kept them full of hope, once they knew they had been heard spirits would have been high, ebbing at times but building again.

69 days is a long time to be stuck, but they had each other so were never alone, that is the key to these men coping.

There is no conspiracy or NWO agenda on the part of the miners, what went on above ground is another story, they couldn't control that, the shirts they wore are just the National flag some with Football team signatures signed by their favourite team.

They are holding off simply to make sure all of them get to tell the story together, that's all, these men will relive this together for the rest of their lives, even if they fight and argue, they now share something that nobody else can.

You cant blame them for wanting to do it together, an agreement I'm sure they made before they came to the surface, its their story, and they have a right to make money from it without someone coming along and stealing it for a movie or a book.

Nobody was eaten, what they saw down there is down to each miner, but I doubt reptilians had anything to do with it, they would have heard the strangest noises, everyone who has spent time underground knows about the noises you hear, some of them can terrify the life out of you, and convince you of all kinds (been there)

Its fantastic they all got out safely, but there is no conspiracy, there is nothing more than 33 men who want to ensure that what they all went through, is shared out equally and fairly, and to make sure sensational rubbish is not how this story ends.

Its an amazing story, with a happy ending, lets not turn it ugly by adding sensationalism to it please.

Originally posted by blamethegreys

Originally posted by ArMaP
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There's nothing wrong with it, but assuming that what they fantasize in their own minds, based on what they want to think happened and ignoring what really happened, is not right.

I absolutely don't hope that is what happened!

The thread is a discussion of what *may* have transpired in those days before the miners were located. It seemed like a reasonable addition to the debate to mention that prior to contact with the outside world, something really bad could have happened like I discussed.

So I am a little unclear then, during those initial days after the mine collapse, the miners had communications to the surface, and the number of survivors was known? Because my comments implied that maybe something ugly transpired prior to a headcount on the surface...

What 'may' have happened is pure speculation based on zero knowledge. That isn't 'deny ignorance', that is like 'gutter press'.

These men have been through one of the worst ordeals imaginable for a human being, for 17 days being virtually buried alive.

I find some of the baseless conjecture frankly disgusting and totally lacking in any compassion or even basic respect towards the terrible suffering these men went through - and survived.

people analyzing of numbers,and masonic symbols of the trapped miners are looking to deep into this...the real story,is what was this extreme voilence that was mention by one of the miners,before they all went silent..and there still no explantion on why there was quoted as 34 miners to start with,but then changed to 33...????

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You are making assumptions about what food would have been there, and on that assumption you are insinuating that what the miners themselves have told us is false. How arrogant is that?

Do you know what goes on in these mines in Chile? Do you know what food resources are provided?
Do you know this with such incontrovertible evidence that you can assert the miners have given us wrong information?

Not all of the men who were trapped were used to being underground. Quite a few weren't - these men may have found it very hard to cope.

I'm all for intelligent scepticism, but when that takes the form of 'we don't believe this story, we know best what happened, we know for a fact what their motives are', it isn't intelligent scepticism, it's unfounded sensationalism based on fantasy.

I could speculate about the mindset and lives of those who pile into this kind of school yard melee, but I won't.

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Why does everything lead to a conspiracy theory?

Stop for a moment, and put yoruself in their situation. 17 days of realizing that they were going to die.

Can you go an hour with that thought? If you were trapped, how many days do you think you can go without cracking?

These men should have their privacy. They deserve it. Personally, I don't feel a need to know what they did for those 17 days, let alone the balance of the two month ordeal.

I think in this case, we have wittinessed one of the most monumental events of human history.

Let it be.

its amazing how people will turn everything in to a conspiracy or a fake story.

Originally posted by wcitizen
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You are making assumptions about what food would have been there, and on that assumption you are insinuating that what the miners themselves have told us is false. How arrogant is that?

Do you know what goes on in these mines in Chile? Do you know what food resources are provided?
Do you know this with such incontrovertible evidence that you can assert the miners have given us wrong information?

Not all of the men who were trapped were used to being underground. Quite a few weren't - these men may have found it very hard to cope.

I'm all for intelligent scepticism, but when that takes the form of 'we don't believe this story, we know best what happened, we know for a fact what their motives are', it isn't intelligent scepticism, it's unfounded sensationalism based on fantasy.

I could speculate about the mindset and lives of those who pile into this kind of school yard melee, but I won't.

It's in almost every news story, saying they had tuna and milk. He wasn't making any assumptions, he was talking from experience and comparing how one might act in this sort of situation.
Of course we might not ever find out the details of what actually happened, so all we can do is speculate until we hear something.

Play nice, wcitizen. Or re-read his post..

I hate how mainstream and famous the miners are now. I preferred them when they were a bit more underground.

Sorry. Err, really it was probably mostly to do with hygiene, I doubt anyone ate each other like that film about the plane crashing in the snowy mountains.

They were down there for a quite a while. It's none of our business what happened down there..besides, I don't think we want to find out considering how horrid the situation was with no restrooms and beyond...

They are out, alive and back with their loved ones. Thats all I care about.

Originally posted by Helghast1
its amazing how people will turn everything in to a conspiracy or a fake story.

I always ask the same question but then I remember, it's a conspiracy theory website. If a spider bit someone who just so happened to be a member of ATS, they'd turn it into a conspiracy story. It's how they function.

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I think it is not very smart to start running or do a daily work-out on an one spoon tuna fish diet a day diet...they were on a ration. Anyways...time will tell what the reason for their silence is.

This mason number/ ritual has caught my attention tho...Coincedence..? One number connectable with feemasonarry.....probably coincidence. Two numbers...probably coincidence...rather no think about it. Three numbers.....Uhmm.....don't know. Four numbers or more and some dude is handing out freemason symbology before camera's from all media over the world can take pictures?......something is going on for the one's "in the know" to know!!!

why would they eat anyone??? there must have been food down there...33 people for 70 days? there had to be quite a substantial amount of food to cater for those guys for so long...why would they eat a man BEFORE the food supply ran out? makes no sense.

Originally posted by azzllin
Its an amazing story, with a happy ending, lets not turn it ugly by adding sensationalism to it please.

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Originally posted by Silicis n Volvo
why would they eat anyone??? there must have been food down there...33 people for 70 days? there had to be quite a substantial amount of food to cater for those guys for so long...why would they eat a man BEFORE the food supply ran out? makes no sense.

NASA provided food for them.

Therefore, I doubt cannibalism took place.

Originally posted by Ben81

Originally posted by SLAYER69
One could imagine Cannibalism like the people trapped in the Andes mountains a few years back. Trapped for 17 days thinking that everybody was assuming you're dead with no hope of rescue?

Human basic survival instincts may have kicked in....

i think all miners were rescued .. did someone dead was left behind ?
im sure they had food in that bunker

They did have food. TWO days worth.

Two days of food?

Take a cap off your soda pop bottle, the plastic cap, fill it 3/4 full of tuna

that's what they had to eat once a day, plus some milk.

they had water, they blasted into a fresh water supply.

Originally posted by jessieg
One of the men said that he saw God and the Devil and that he reached his hands out to God. Well I don't know if he physically saw them, or if it were more of a vision. Being down in that awful place would be enough for anyone to start seeing things. They should get together and write a book or do a movie or something. I'd want to do anything else besides go back to work in that mine. I'd never want to go back, I think.

Well being down there for over two months I'm sure your bound to hallucinate. And given their culture (being from Chile) saying things about the god and the devil isn't anything to be looking at weird. I think I remember in Spanish class hearing that its normal in a regular conversation in South America to talk about their religion (mainly Catholic). And yes, they are definitely planning on making bank off some books, I remember the night of the last man being rescued even the reporter was saying how it would be wonderful for them to make a book about it. Why tell people about it when you could make them go out and buy the damn book

Take a cap off your soda pop bottle, the plastic cap, fill it 3/4 full of tuna that's what they had to eat once a day, plus some milk. they had water, they blasted into a fresh water supply.

I also wouldn't doubt it if they ate bugs while they were down there. Good source of protien

I imagine that being trapped underground together not knowing what will happen can create a sense of closeness. I'm sure they became close during that time; talking, sharing thoughts, etc. As men it would be embarrassing to say they sat around talking and showing their feelings.