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posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 12:21 AM
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As I suspected you made up the entire story. There is no such paper. Really not a surprise since everything else you've posted has been made up. It's just another part of the hoax you are perpetrating.

We are still left with nothing but vague claims without any backing. Thankfully you've stopped making racist comments.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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As I suspected you made up the entire story. There is no such paper. Really not a surprise since everything else you've posted has been made up. It's just another part of the hoax you are perpetrating.

We are still left with nothing but vague claims without any backing. Thankfully you've stopped making racist comments.


Get in touch with your highest self. Allow yourself to make the connection to the racial unconscious in a conscious way. Take the pile of 'misinformation' crap off the trapdoor and then, maybe you too can see the color blue, Mr. Carrot.

Learn to be fully human, not just a stunted tangled bitter control freak who doesn't dare allow others their own opinion because you really don't trust yourself to be as 'right' as you pretend to be about what you 'know'. So when they say things beyond your limited level of awareness (and even comprehension), it scrambles your hard won certainty which then sends you scrambling to make them stop saying things that mess with your carefully cultured 'reality'.

Oh yah, the NWO has spun us, but underneath it all on the unconscious level, some part of us knows perfectly well that so much of what we believe is made of lies to manipulate and control us. *shrug* But since all the better alternatives are hidden or made to seem 'evil' or 'crazy' or just somebody's 'imagination', you have to cling to what little you can actually 'prove' to yourself (with information provided to you by the NWO with that intention specifically in mind), and make anyone else shut up who might rock that carefully balanced boat of yours. And wow, you even get the NWO bunch to pay you to do it. Now that has to be sooo cool, eh? *lol*

And yet again, I refer you to educate-yourself.org. It talks in depth about the NWO bunch aka the illuminati. And their plans to dominate humanity, and their actual posted agenda to reduce the human population by at least 50%. Nothing about the NWO bunch is a hoax, nor is what i see about them in the racial unconscious. So give the 'hoax' crap a rest, please, Mr. "only pays attention to and talks about stuff he thinks will discredit me".

But of course, feel free to continue with your phony 'oh you are just making it all up' opinion at my information, because really there is nothing else you can do. And yes, you really are that obvious. Plus my information is only a step or two beyond what is available over on educate-yourself.org; not at all hard to extrapolate that they probably would want more than just a meager 50% of humanity dead. I just see that they want 80%, versus 50%. How lame your nit-picking is, you know? Sad, really.
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posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 08:02 AM
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Nothing you've posted is anything other than opinion.

On the other hand to point out that you've made no effort to substantiate these ridiculous claims is fact.

Claiming some delusional whatever you want to cal it that you tap into for information is just a sad way of saying your opinion.

So where is this paper you refer to? You've made reference to a paper, which certainly sounds like a false claim. Making up sources is simply another part of the hoax you are perpetrating.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 08:07 AM
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Vague references to websites is not a piece of evidence. Just because you've fallen for this hoax seems rather normal for you given the educational background you claim. Furthermore, if you actually went to that school then you'd know how to make a proper reference to evidence.

You've done no better than suggesting someone read a newspaper or a book in a library.

It is fact that you've made no effort to substantiate your ridiculous claim.
1. Claims many
2. Evidence provided none
3. Racist commentary appears to be on hold



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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Nothing you've posted is anything other than opinion.

On the other hand to point out that you've made no effort to substantiate these ridiculous claims is fact.

Claiming some delusional whatever you want to cal it that you tap into for information is just a sad way of saying your opinion.

So where is this paper you refer to? You've made reference to a paper, which certainly sounds like a false claim. Making up sources is simply another part of the hoax you are perpetrating.


And you've only posted your opinion too. So once again, thanks for sharing it.

And like I noted, I so am not going to waste my time digging thru old musty papers in 3 different locations just to 'prove' something to a NWO stoogie who doesn't really care---since he is only doing what he is paid to do.

Sorry. Please feel free to believe that it is malicious, rather than just not worth my effort, if you wish. I told you what I remember of it, and that's all you're getting. But it is good enough for me.. even when the faculty first mentioned it, it set off that silent gonging sensation that signals 'truth' to me, so I wouldn't have doubted it even if they hadn't given us copies of it. But see, that is where you just can't trust yourself, just as humanity has been trained to. Limited by intention. Their intention. Your loss.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
Vague references to websites is not a piece of evidence. Just because you've fallen for this hoax seems rather normal for you given the educational background you claim. Furthermore, if you actually went to that school then you'd know how to make a proper reference to evidence.

You've done no better than suggesting someone read a newspaper or a book in a library.

It is fact that you've made no effort to substantiate your ridiculous claim.
1. Claims many
2. Evidence provided none
3. Racist commentary appears to be on hold



Part of what I learned in this master's program are emotional competency skills. One of which is that once someone runs information/data thru their brain, it then becomes their opinion. It is always subjective if the individual processes the data, always, no matter if they are 'scientists', priests or any other authority figure.

Facts may indeed exist, but they remain pure 'fact' only if no one interprets them aka looks at them, thinks about them, tries to ascribe meaning and/or discusses them. Once that happens, any interpretation becomes their opinion of said 'facts'. A lot of people may agree with that opinion and also agree that they are 'facts', but it is still just their opinion about the data, and their opinion that it is a 'fact'.

It is part of the reframing process which helps people out think the false information abusive, dysfuntional parents (who act and think like you in many ways) crammed down their children's throats cloaked in seeming 'facts' which are really nothing more than their own abusive opinion. Now I am thinking you just don't get that. Sadly. Denial is a wonderful thing. eh, Mr. Carrot?
edit on 22-11-2010 by DragonriderGal because: spelling



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 08:13 PM
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Thanks for showing us all that you have no idea what the difference is between a fact and opinion. Your claims that this is what you learned in some school speaks loads about the school - pretty shabby school.

It's no wonder that you are so confused about matters when you've received such a shabby education. Hope you weren't taken for much by the place.



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 08:16 PM
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As I stated your refusal to tell us the article shows that you did not tell the truth about the paper. You made it up and unfortunately for you you made up a lie about material I have a background in.

The NWO is a fake story. The paper doesn't exist. Hmmm. Starting to see a pattern here.



posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by DragonriderGal
Part of what I learned in this master's program are emotional competency skills. One of which is that once someone runs information/data thru their brain, it then becomes their opinion. It is always subjective if the individual processes the data, always, no matter if they are 'scientists', priests or any other authority figure.

Facts may indeed exist, but they remain pure 'fact' only if no one interprets them aka looks at them, thinks about them, tries to ascribe meaning and/or discusses them. Once that happens, any interpretation becomes their opinion of said 'facts'. A lot of people may agree with that opinion and also agree that they are 'facts', but it is still just their opinion about the data, and their opinion that it is a 'fact'.

It is part of the reframing process which helps people out think the false information abusive, dysfuntional parents (who act and think like you in many ways) crammed down their children's throats cloaked in seeming 'facts' which are really nothing more than their own abusive opinion. Now I am thinking you just don't get that. Sadly. Denial is a wonderful thing. eh, Mr. Carrot?
edit on 22-11-2010 by DragonriderGal because: spelling


1. To be emotionally competent would require one to refrain from personal attacks. Something you have failed to do. Attack the (lack of) evidence not the person.

2. Facts are indeed facts. They are not subject to discussion, theories and opinions are however. 2+2=4 is factual. Gravity is a fact (how it works is a theory). Alien Jews run the world is (and I'm being generous here) at best a theory and open to discussion and rebuttal.

Oh! and you forgot to include cattle mutilation, that aside have you ever considered writing pulp fantasy fiction ?

On a personal note I'm sad you included elves but no pixies, gnomes or leipreachán. Elves are so over exposed.


edit on 24-11-2010 by Noncompatible because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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Thanks for showing us all that you have no idea what the difference is between a fact and opinion. Your claims that this is what you learned in some school speaks loads about the school - pretty shabby school.

It's no wonder that you are so confused about matters when you've received such a shabby education. Hope you weren't taken for much by the place.



Sadly you guys really don't get it. But then science addicts aren't really able to think outside the box much. They feel safe and secure in there with all their 'proof' and 'facts' and rigid beliefs about what the world/reality is 'really' like. Just as the NWO bunch intends. They don't want you out thinking their little tricks for keeping you asleep.

And there are no facts. Ever. If it goes into a human brain and comes out as 'research' results, it becomes that person's opinion of whatever he or she might be 'researching'. Always. Any commentary, any test, any 'proof' is compiled in that person's brain, with his or her filters, limitations, and so on, in place. And in the end, all you have is that person's opinion, however well documented it may be, and no matter how many others may hold the same opinion. It is all opinion. And people agreeing to call mutual opinions 'facts'.



posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 08:27 PM
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OK my thoughts on 2012....

For as long as man has existed, we have tried to predict the end times... and every time we have been wrong. The most recent end times prediction that was a global conspiracy would have been Y2K, I think....

What happened? Nothing. Was I surprised? No. Did I think anything would happen? No.

That is how I feel about December 21, 2012... Nothing will happen...

And for those of you who may ask about the Earth being aligned with the center of the galaxy on that day in 2012... Surely it must mean something, right? Wrong... Here is something a lot of people don't realize. They are aligned EVERY YEAR at that time.


Don't believe me? Just listen to today's Carl Sagan. Mr. Neal Degrassi Tyson.



As he says.... Earth will be here before during and after 2012



posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 08:34 PM
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And there are no facts. Ever.

If what you have told us is true, this inane comment is based on a rather poor education you received.
For some reason you have no clue as to how science is performed. You make up ridiculous tales about science and whatever.

Some day you may want to learn how things actually work, but it seems that your close minded attitude has restricted you to this position where you are unable to understand even simple issues such as fact vs opinion. That is an issue my kids are studying in the second grade right now. They know the difference. I think you can learn too just like my second graders are learning.
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posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by Noncompatible

Originally posted by DragonriderGal
Part of what I learned in this master's program are emotional competency skills. One of which is that once someone runs information/data thru their brain, it then becomes their opinion. It is always subjective if the individual processes the data, always, no matter if they are 'scientists', priests or any other authority figure.

Facts may indeed exist, but they remain pure 'fact' only if no one interprets them aka looks at them, thinks about them, tries to ascribe meaning and/or discusses them. Once that happens, any interpretation becomes their opinion of said 'facts'. A lot of people may agree with that opinion and also agree that they are 'facts', but it is still just their opinion about the data, and their opinion that it is a 'fact'.

It is part of the reframing process which helps people out think the false information abusive, dysfuntional parents (who act and think like you in many ways) crammed down their children's throats cloaked in seeming 'facts' which are really nothing more than their own abusive opinion. Now I am thinking you just don't get that. Sadly. Denial is a wonderful thing. eh, Mr. Carrot?
edit on 22-11-2010 by DragonriderGal because: spelling


1. To be emotionally competent would require one to refrain from personal attacks. Something you have failed to do. Attack the (lack of) evidence not the person.

2. Facts are indeed facts. They are not subject to discussion, theories and opinions are however. 2+2=4 is factual. Gravity is a fact (how it works is a theory). Alien Jews run the world is (and I'm being generous here) at best a theory and open to discussion and rebuttal.

Oh! and you forgot to include cattle mutilation, that aside have you ever considered writing pulp fantasy fiction ?

On a personal note I'm sad you included elves but no pixies, gnomes or leipreachán. Elves are so over exposed.


edit on 24-11-2010 by Noncompatible because: (no reason given)


Always there are degrees of emotional competency, and of course your opinion of what that is, may or may not be accurate; after all, you seem the more of the doggedly dogmatic type who probably feels emotions are 'bad'. We should all be like Mr. Spock. Silly emotions anyway. *rolls eyes*

And hey, I acknowledge that yahoos like Stereo hook me... bossy older sister trauma and such. And authentic always is far better than pretending to be someone I'm not. So maybe I'll work on that hook, maybe not.

And of course the alien/Jewish conspiracy is a questionable theory... just like they want it to be. They've been working at making it seem that way for a LONG time. I can, however, see them very clearly in the racial unconscious. Whether you believe that or not, is entirely your own choice.

And 2+2=4 is an agreed upon opinion. There are a lot of such agreements, but opinions none the less. IF you think about the number 2 and add another 2 to it in your mind and you think they equal 4, there inside your head, it now becomes your opinion because you have added your thoughts, your 'understanding' to it, and so it becomes simply your opinion of what 2+2=4 actually means. It is no longer a pure 'fact'. It is your opinion of the 'facts'.

And the fairies are in service to the elves, as are many of the elder races which you mentioned. The 'mythology' of the elven lore and times is actually the way we remember our history where it can't be spun by the NWO bunch. They so don't want us to realize that and they've put a lot of time money and work into us thinking it is only our imagination. Some people are easier to fool than others, obviously.



posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
OK my thoughts on 2012....

For as long as man has existed, we have tried to predict the end times... and every time we have been wrong. The most recent end times prediction that was a global conspiracy would have been Y2K, I think....

What happened? Nothing. Was I surprised? No. Did I think anything would happen? No.

That is how I feel about December 21, 2012... Nothing will happen...

And for those of you who may ask about the Earth being aligned with the center of the galaxy on that day in 2012... Surely it must mean something, right? Wrong... Here is something a lot of people don't realize. They are aligned EVERY YEAR at that time.


Don't believe me? Just listen to today's Carl Sagan. Mr. Neal Degrassi Tyson.

As he says.... Earth will be here before during and after 2012


Well, maybe the E-l*th will hide themselves as they dig the NWO bunch out of their hidey holes and send them packing. I don't think so, but who knows? I only know the futures I see in the racial unconscious. The clearest one is the one where the E-l*th return and kick the Jue-sah and their flunkies off the planet aka 'book of revelations' style and then our racial unconscious sends them back in time to do it again.

We humans also start making full enlightenment, which will be sooo cool!
So a bit of rough times, trying not to get in the way of the removal of the Jue-sah or the Jue-sahs fighting back, and then the opportunity to do what no other species has ever done before. We, humanity, are the chosen people of the overarching sentience of the universe. When we make full enlightenment, we will actually be able to communicate with it directly. Now only the over arching sentience of the different species can and even then, the smaller ones have a hard time.

So things will change, but the earth and humanity will not only survive, but prosper, once we've gotten rid of those Jue-sah yahoos. Yes, they were here to keep us moving forward, never getting comfortable and complacent. We had to be ready spiritually for when we moved into this area of higher energy in the galaxy again. That is what makes this time different from all the rest... it only happens every couple million years from what I can see.

And yup, we're right on time. The energy is rising, and in response, so is ours. Just a bit more time and we'll all see that stuff start happening. And we sooo don't need the Jue-sah's help any more.

edit on 24-11-2010 by DragonriderGal because: clarity



posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 09:21 PM
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[wuote]And 2+2=4 is an agreed upon opinion. There are a lot of such agreements, but opinions none the less. IF you think about the number 2 and add another 2 to it in your mind and you think they equal 4, there inside your head, it now becomes your opinion because you have added your thoughts, your 'understanding' to it, and so it becomes simply your opinion of what 2+2=4 actually means. It is no longer a pure 'fact'. It is your opinion of the 'facts'.
Not only do you have no idea what a fact is, but you also have no idea what the basis of math is. Despite your earlier claims of understanding trivial math you have no idea what the foundations of math are. You are hilarious. You might want to review a first or second grade arithmetic book to learn what process is actually being used in addition as well as get an understanding of a formally definition of a number.

What an utter and remarkable failure. I think you should sue that crummy school and get ever penny back plus a punitive settlement so that no other person has to endure such a poor education.



posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 09:23 PM
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You've called me a yahoo and you;ve used the term "Jue-sah yahoos". Would you please provide your definition of yahoo?



posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 02:34 AM
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People compare this to Y2K and others but I believe this has a little more 'bite' to it. I mean this is based on a civilizations beliefs not one person i.e. Nostradamus or such. This civilization built structures with great precision barely capable of us now and had enormous knowledge of this planet and of the stars, still possible better then us today.

So....who am I to say, lol. My birthday falls on December 20th, will be having a end of the world party 2012.

Seriously though. Alot of people say if a planet showed up here or there, this or that would happen. If you believe of some sort of conspiracy concerning the moon, structures or bases, if you discount Nasa's theory that Mars is a dry deserted planet then we are being lied to. If you believe there is one lie being told then anything is possible and anything could be true. For all we REALLY know if we were in space maybe we can take off our space suit and float around like fish in the ocean, lol. Truly though, all we know concerning space is what they have told us, really anything is possible.

So, what do I think? Come the propsed date....were all f**ked.

I have NO problem with people laughing after that date and calling me stupid if its just another date but the message comes from, to me, a reputable enough source for me to take it seriously and I don't wish to be sitting around with my thumb up my ass, just in case, lol.

So this is my plan. Withing the next year, being Canadian, I will be relocating to the Rockies in British Columbia, Lake Louise area, right now I reside in Ottawa Ontario. 6 years ago I lived and worked in that area so know it well. The elevation of the surrounding mountains will help to protect from most calamities and there are alot of old mine and train tunnels to hole up in if necessary as well.

My facebook name is David 'Buzz' Fabi. If you are like minded as I am and want to continue with your life but be in a area where we can make some preparation, incase, something should happen, then contact me via facebook, and lets get the show on the road.

Good luck to the rest of ya's, lol



posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 07:28 AM
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So you are going to change your life based on a fiction made up Sitchin? You should spend you money on a trip to see the structures left by this civilization you've not mentioned. Then you'd see that the structures can be made by modern man. A trip like that would be a great learning experience for you.



posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 03:27 PM
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And 2+2=4 is an agreed upon opinion. There are a lot of such agreements, but opinions none the less. IF you think about the number 2 and add another 2 to it in your mind and you think they equal 4, there inside your head, it now becomes your opinion because you have added your thoughts, your 'understanding' to it, and so it becomes simply your opinion of what 2+2=4 actually means. It is no longer a pure 'fact'. It is your opinion of the 'facts'.

Not only do you have no idea what a fact is, but you also have no idea what the basis of math is. Despite your earlier claims of understanding trivial math you have no idea what the foundations of math are. You are hilarious. You might want to review a first or second grade arithmetic book to learn what process is actually being used in addition as well as get an understanding of a formally definition of a number.

What an utter and remarkable failure. I think you should sue that crummy school and get ever penny back plus a punitive settlement so that no other person has to endure such a poor education.


And sadly, you still don't get it. *shrug* Just proves you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it understand the concept of reality just being a construct of our own personal internal understanding of the data we receive via our senses aka our 'experience'.

And yahoos are those who don't or won't understand and work against the highest good of humanity. On a more personal level, yahoos are people who act like arrogant, smug but clueless idiots.



edit on 25-11-2010 by DragonriderGal because: clarity



posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by ganbuzz

People compare this to Y2K and others but I believe this has a little more 'bite' to it. I mean this is based on a civilizations beliefs not one person i.e. Nostradamus or such. This civilization built structures with great precision barely capable of us now and had enormous knowledge of this planet and of the stars, still possible better then us today.

So....who am I to say, lol. My birthday falls on December 20th, will be having a end of the world party 2012.

Seriously though. Alot of people say if a planet showed up here or there, this or that would happen. If you believe of some sort of conspiracy concerning the moon, structures or bases, if you discount Nasa's theory that Mars is a dry deserted planet then we are being lied to. If you believe there is one lie being told then anything is possible and anything could be true. For all we REALLY know if we were in space maybe we can take off our space suit and float around like fish in the ocean, lol. Truly though, all we know concerning space is what they have told us, really anything is possible.

So, what do I think? Come the propsed date....were all f**ked.

I have NO problem with people laughing after that date and calling me stupid if its just another date but the message comes from, to me, a reputable enough source for me to take it seriously and I don't wish to be sitting around with my thumb up my ass, just in case, lol.

So this is my plan. Withing the next year, being Canadian, I will be relocating to the Rockies in British Columbia, Lake Louise area, right now I reside in Ottawa Ontario. 6 years ago I lived and worked in that area so know it well. The elevation of the surrounding mountains will help to protect from most calamities and there are alot of old mine and train tunnels to hole up in if necessary as well.

My facebook name is David 'Buzz' Fabi. If you are like minded as I am and want to continue with your life but be in a area where we can make some preparation, incase, something should happen, then contact me via facebook, and lets get the show on the road.

Good luck to the rest of ya's, lol


I know several people who are making such plans. I believe manifesting personal safety for myself and those I love, along with some extra water and food, ought to be enough. The E-l*th will be helping us openly after they start digging the NWO bunch out, but the NWO has some nasty weapons stock piled so the E-l*th will be pretty busy. I see them helping us relocate to safer areas as well though, before things really get out of hand. I suspect though, that their ex-elven relatives now in human form will be their top priority aka mostly those of European descent, especially northern European.

But I will contact you over on facebook anyway.
This time IS different. It is that rising energy thing. That is what will allow humanity to make full enlightenment. It hasn't been this high in a couple million years; way before humanity was sentient.



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